2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc)

Ericb5 · Post #521 » by **Ericb5** » Mon Jan 1, 2018 8:18 am

People need to understand that the best thing for the Sixers right now is probably that the Lakers are as bad as possible. We want to give the Celtics the pick this year, and then get what we get next year.

Having an unprotected pick from the Kings next year is better than getting a pick worse than 6 this year.

We shouldn’t care at all how the trade affects the Celtics. As long as a Embiid and Simmons stay healthy we will be fine in the long run.

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Post #522 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Mon Jan 1, 2018 3:52 pm

Ericb5 wrote:Having an unprotected pick from the Kings next year is better than getting a pick worse than 6 this year.

I'm in this camp. Lakers as the worst team in the league would be swell.

Post #523 » by **BullyKing** » Mon Jan 1, 2018 4:12 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:Having an unprotected pick from the Kings next year is better than getting a pick worse than 6 this year.

I'm in this camp. Lakers as the worst team in the league would be swell.

Also better for our cap situation to have the (high priced) lottery pick convey in 2019 rather than 2018.

Post #524 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Mon Jan 1, 2018 4:15 pm

BullyKing wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:Having an unprotected pick from the Kings next year is better than getting a pick worse than 6 this year.

I'm in this camp. Lakers as the worst team in the league would be swell.

Also better for our cap situation to have the (high priced) lottery pick convey in 2019 rather than 2018.

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Negrodamus · Post #525 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Jan 1, 2018 5:08 pm

I will be a bit peeved if we could have done Tatum this past year and Trae Young next year with the Lakers pick and only have Fultz to show for it.

Just think about that offensive potential.

XDevilBoiX · Post #526 » by **XDevilBoiX** » Mon Jan 1, 2018 5:11 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I will be a bit peeved if we could have done Tatum this past year and Trae Young next year with the Lakers pick and only have Fultz to show for it.

Just think about that offensive potential.

I don’t think BC would have taken Tatum, he hasn’t prove to us he can draft since being here.

Eyeamok · Post #527 » by **Eyeamok** » Mon Jan 1, 2018 7:07 pm

The Lakers are now in the #2 spot, according to Talkathon and trending towards #1. But with the 76ers luck, Boston goes to the NBA finals and gets the #2 pick overall.

If this happens how does BC spin this. "We got the guy we really wanted!" :lol:

Ericb5 · Post #528 » by **Ericb5** » Mon Jan 1, 2018 7:10 pm

Eyeamok wrote:The Lakers are now in the #2 spot, according to Talkathon and trending towards #1. But with the 76ers luck, Boston goes to the NBA finals and gets the #2 pick overall.

If this happens how does BC spin this. "We got the guy we really wanted!"

What we want is for the pick to convey to the Celtics this year, which gives us an unprotected pick next year.

The best outcome for us is that we get the 1st pick, but the second best outcome I think is that the Celtics get the 5th pick, and then we keep the Kings pick.

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Wilfried · Post #529 » by **Wilfried** » Mon Jan 1, 2018 7:23 pm

Ericb5 wrote:
Eyeamok wrote:The Lakers are now in the #2 spot, according to Talkathon and trending towards #1. But with the 76ers luck, Boston goes to the NBA finals and gets the #2 pick overall.

If this happens how does BC spin this. "We got the guy we really wanted!"

What we want is for the pick to convey to the Celtics this year, which gives us an unprotected pick next year.

The best outcome for us is that we get the 1st pick, but the second best outcome I think is that the Celtics get the 5th pick, and then we keep the Kings pick.

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Do we?

We could have gotten the LA pick AND the SAC pick. Still not happy with the trade, not even considering the potential Fultz has.

Orlando are quietly having a bad season again btw

XDevilBoiX · Post #530 » by **XDevilBoiX** » Mon Jan 1, 2018 7:32 pm

Wilfried wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:
Eyeamok wrote:The Lakers are now in the #2 spot, according to Talkathon and trending towards #1. But with the 76ers luck, Boston goes to the NBA finals and gets the #2 pick overall.

If this happens how does BC spin this. "We got the guy we really wanted!"

What we want is for the pick to convey to the Celtics this year, which gives us an unprotected pick next year.

The best outcome for us is that we get the 1st pick, but the second best outcome I think is that the Celtics get the 5th pick, and then we keep the Kings pick.

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Do we?

We could have gotten the LA pick AND the SAC pick. Still not happy with the trade, not even considering the potential Fultz has.

Orlando are quietly having a bad season again btw

We can still get the LA(if it falls out of 2-5 protection)and Sac pick, Sac would have to be no.1 then we give Boston our pick. That’s would be great if it happens lol

Post #531 » by **Sixerscan** » Mon Jan 1, 2018 8:42 pm

Wilfried wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:
Eyeamok wrote:The Lakers are now in the #2 spot, according to Talkathon and trending towards #1. But with the 76ers luck, Boston goes to the NBA finals and gets the #2 pick overall.

If this happens how does BC spin this. "We got the guy we really wanted!"

What we want is for the pick to convey to the Celtics this year, which gives us an unprotected pick next year.

The best outcome for us is that we get the 1st pick, but the second best outcome I think is that the Celtics get the 5th pick, and then we keep the Kings pick.

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Do we?

We could have gotten the LA pick AND the SAC pick. Still not happy with the trade, not even considering the potential Fultz has.

Orlando are quietly having a bad season again btw

Well, that's not an option at this point, the choices are:

1. Convey 18 Lakers pick, keep unprotected 19 Kings pick.
2. Keep 18 Lakers pick, convey 19 Kings pick top 1 protected

I think Choice 2 is pretty clearly better unless the Lakers pick is #1. You get an unprotected pick and you keep cap space open for this summer.

Eyeamok · Post #532 » by **Eyeamok** » Mon Jan 1, 2018 9:09 pm

Sixerscan wrote:
Wilfried wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:
What we want is for the pick to convey to the Celtics this year, which gives us an unprotected pick next year.

The best outcome for us is that we get the 1st pick, but the second best outcome I think is that the Celtics get the 5th pick, and then we keep the Kings pick.

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Do we?

We could have gotten the LA pick AND the SAC pick. Still not happy with the trade, not even considering the potential Fultz has.

Orlando are quietly having a bad season again btw

Well, that's not an option at this point, the choices are:

1. Convey 18 Lakers pick, keep unprotected 19 Kings pick.
2. Keep 18 Lakers pick, convey 19 Kings pick top 1 protected

I think Choice 2 is pretty clearly better unless the Lakers pick is #1. You get an unprotected pick and you keep cap space open for this summer.

Yeah but I still would like to hear how BC spins it if the Celtics make it to the NBA finals and then end up with the #2 pick.

Fultz would have to be a world beater or exactly what this franchise needs on offense, to make fans forget what was given up for him. And don't get me wrong I want Fultz to succeed, but BC, for his first major move, sure went out on a limb. And if Fultz is not the guy and BC strikes out in free agency, then this franchise basically took a step backwards. Gave away assets and got nothing in return.

Eyeamok · Post #533 » by **Eyeamok** » Mon Jan 1, 2018 9:13 pm

Ericb5 wrote:
Eyeamok wrote:The Lakers are now in the #2 spot, according to Talkathon and trending towards #1. But with the 76ers luck, Boston goes to the NBA finals and gets the #2 pick overall.

If this happens how does BC spin this. "We got the guy we really wanted!"

What we want is for the pick to convey to the Celtics this year, which gives us an unprotected pick next year.

The best outcome for us is that we get the 1st pick, but the second best outcome I think is that the Celtics get the 5th pick, and then we keep the Kings pick.

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And if the Celtics get the #2 pick and the Kings make some moves and their young guys get better, then what? We gave up the #2 pick and we end up with the 10th pick in the 2019 draft? Is that great value?

PhilasFinest · Post #534 » by **PhilasFinest** » Mon Jan 1, 2018 9:14 pm

Eyeamok wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
Wilfried wrote:
Do we?

We could have gotten the LA pick AND the SAC pick. Still not happy with the trade, not even considering the potential Fultz has.

Orlando are quietly having a bad season again btw

Well, that's not an option at this point, the choices are:

1. Convey 18 Lakers pick, keep unprotected 19 Kings pick.
2. Keep 18 Lakers pick, convey 19 Kings pick top 1 protected

I think Choice 2 is pretty clearly better unless the Lakers pick is #1. You get an unprotected pick and you keep cap space open for this summer.

Yeah but I still would like to hear how BC spins it if the Celtics make it to the NBA finals and then end up with the #2 pick.

Fultz would have to be a world beater or exactly what this franchise needs on offense, to make fans forget what was given up for him. And don't get me wrong I want Fultz to succeed, but BC, for his first major move, sure went out on a limb. And if Fultz is not the guy and BC strikes out in free agency, then this franchise basically took a step backwards. Gave away assets and got nothing in return.

You do realize that if Boston makes it to the Finals, it’s probably got more to do with acquiring a superstar in Kyrie Irving and adding him to an already good, well coached playoff team then the trade down for Tatum right?

Post #535 » by **Sixerscan** » Mon Jan 1, 2018 9:33 pm

Eyeamok wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
Wilfried wrote:
Do we?

We could have gotten the LA pick AND the SAC pick. Still not happy with the trade, not even considering the potential Fultz has.

Orlando are quietly having a bad season again btw

Well, that's not an option at this point, the choices are:

1. Convey 18 Lakers pick, keep unprotected 19 Kings pick.
2. Keep 18 Lakers pick, convey 19 Kings pick top 1 protected

I think Choice 2 is pretty clearly better unless the Lakers pick is #1. You get an unprotected pick and you keep cap space open for this summer.

Yeah but I still would like to hear how BC spins it if the Celtics make it to the NBA finals and then end up with the #2 pick.

Fultz would have to be a world beater or exactly what this franchise needs on offense, to make fans forget what was given up for him. And don't get me wrong I want Fultz to succeed, but BC, for his first major move, sure went out on a limb. And if Fultz is not the guy and BC strikes out in free agency, then this franchise basically took a step backwards. Gave away assets and got nothing in return.

Not what my post was about. We would prefer the pick conveys this year, unless you think the Kings are going to be noticeably better next year.

nitocobola · Post #536 » by **nitocobola** » Mon Jan 1, 2018 9:56 pm

**** ainge and **** the lakers

This trade looks really bad right now, Hope that if they suck like this at least they give us a 25% chance to keep the pick( not gonna happen lol)

Let's see if magic makes some moves before the deadline.

HankTheTank · Post #537 » by **HankTheTank** » Mon Jan 1, 2018 10:37 pm

I don’t want the pick conveying to the Celtics this year. Anyone want to see the Celtics add Ayton or Bamba to their mix?

I want the pick at 6-8, add Jaron Jackson, Mikal Bridges etc, and have the Kings improve and give the Celtics the 10th pick next year.

God awful trade.

Ericb5 · Post #538 » by **Ericb5** » Mon Jan 1, 2018 10:38 pm

Wilfried wrote:
Ericb5 wrote:
Eyeamok wrote:The Lakers are now in the #2 spot, according to Talkathon and trending towards #1. But with the 76ers luck, Boston goes to the NBA finals and gets the #2 pick overall.

If this happens how does BC spin this. "We got the guy we really wanted!"

What we want is for the pick to convey to the Celtics this year, which gives us an unprotected pick next year.

The best outcome for us is that we get the 1st pick, but the second best outcome I think is that the Celtics get the 5th pick, and then we keep the Kings pick.

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Do we?

We could have gotten the LA pick AND the SAC pick. Still not happy with the trade, not even considering the potential Fultz has.

Orlando are quietly having a bad season again btw

Yeah, but the trade has already been made. Other than winning the lottery which is an outside chance for either year, the best thing for us would be to get a top 5 pick next year.

Unless we get the 6th pick this year and someone really good is available that low.

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ProcessDoctor · Post #539 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Mon Jan 1, 2018 11:01 pm

I would rather take our chances retaining the pick and hoping Sacramento makes a jump in 2019, or crashes and gets #1 overall.

I'm not excited about the prospect of Boston having a pick in the 2-5 in a draft filled with rim protectors when that's their biggest need.

underpressure · Post #540 » by **underpressure** » Mon Jan 1, 2018 11:05 pm

Well if the pick was not bound to Boston, it would be common sense that we want the Lakers to be as bad as possible. The Kings will be awful next year as well and even if they happen to be a middling lottery team, they still may end up with a top pick due to new draft procedure.

So we are looking at a 20-25% chance of landing the first pick if the Lakers finish worst or second worst (in reality, they will be much better though) and then we have the Kings pick which has huge upside as well.

However, since of all teams the Celtics are rewarded with the pick, I get the idea that the Lakers (and also the Kings) should win as many games as possible so that they don't get their hands on another top talent. Given their salary structure they may not have not much room to improve other than via the draft. We in turn should still make huge strides and overtake the Celtics in due time. Not so if they get a Simmons/Embiid level type of player.

Overall, the situation is sort of **** up. Only Fultz can make us feel better if he is our missing piece. Then this discussion may be rendered redundant.