Game 39 : Hawks (10-26) at Suns (14-24), Tuesday, Jan 2
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carey wrote:It is 2-time, every time.
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Man so I didn't watch this game as I was watching the Texas Tech/Kansas game instead, but kinda kept up on twitter and saw the highlights. What a crazy comeback win. TJ and Book are monsters. Those MVP chants for Booker were awesome and need to happen more. They're not even that crazy because he's probably been a top 8-10 player in basketball this season which is pretty insane.
But yeah between that Tech win and the Suns, that was as basketball high as I've been in like 7+ years. Love it.
But yeah between that Tech win and the Suns, that was as basketball high as I've been in like 7+ years. Love it.
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* Finally Chriss is playing well again. I'm harsh when i am critisizing Chriss because i've never been a huge fan of him as a prospect, his decision making is still horrible but at least recently he is giving more effort on both ends which is all i want from a young player. Losing some weight and getting fit really helped him.
* What happened to Ulis man? Last year he was my favourite rookie, i thought that we should give him a bigger role so we can see if he has what it takes to be a starter in the league but he is missing open shots and making weird turnovers. I still like him and believe that he can be a solid back up pg but i'm kinda disappointed.
* Schroder reminds me of Bledsoe so much. Fast, athletic, good finisher around the rim but has low bball iq and forces things. I'd stay away from him and players like him.
* Someone in the board mentinoed that Budenholzer's contract expires end of this year and we should pursue him. I think that's a great idea. Atlanta played great defence yesterday and shared the ball well they just don't have enough talent to win matches. Budenholzer is a top tier coach that could make us a very dangerous team.
* TJ shot 21 and didn't get any free throws lol
* What happened to Ulis man? Last year he was my favourite rookie, i thought that we should give him a bigger role so we can see if he has what it takes to be a starter in the league but he is missing open shots and making weird turnovers. I still like him and believe that he can be a solid back up pg but i'm kinda disappointed.
* Schroder reminds me of Bledsoe so much. Fast, athletic, good finisher around the rim but has low bball iq and forces things. I'd stay away from him and players like him.
* Someone in the board mentinoed that Budenholzer's contract expires end of this year and we should pursue him. I think that's a great idea. Atlanta played great defence yesterday and shared the ball well they just don't have enough talent to win matches. Budenholzer is a top tier coach that could make us a very dangerous team.
* TJ shot 21 and didn't get any free throws lol
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Uh yea. NBA players don’t give a damn about trying to lose for “better” draft pick. Those guys believe they are good enough.
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Schroeder took a layup with his team down 3 and time expiring. Do not want.
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ATTL wrote:Schroeder took a layup with his team down 3 and time expiring. Do not want.
Coach Bud i want. Good coach, az connection.
I know we all feel snakebitten after making our last interim coach permanent, but what has Triano failed to show? We've seen strategic exploitation of the rules, strong growth from our young players on both ends and the integration of additional sets and plays. He's added accountability to our locker room without getting preachy or personal. No drama, no flash, just basketball.
If the season ended today, Triano would have my vote.
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sunsbg wrote:Pushing Devin for the all star game, I guess. There is no other reason to play a recently injured player 41 mins just to win by a point against a higher draft pick contender.
Bender's boxscore is depressing..JJ's DNP
Draft position means jack****. Booker wants to win and so should the fans.

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cosmofizzo wrote:ATTL wrote:Schroeder took a layup with his team down 3 and time expiring. Do not want.
Coach Bud i want. Good coach, az connection.
I know we all feel snakebitten after making our last interim coach permanent, but what has Triano failed to show? We've seen strategic exploitation of the rules, strong growth from our young players on both ends and the integration of additional sets and plays. He's added accountability to our locker room without getting preachy or personal. No drama, no flash, just basketball.
If the season ended today, Triano would have my vote.
Not gonna And 1 you, however, I wouldn’t be mad. This is the first time in a long time where we have not had any drama on this team. The guys seem really support each other; that is the only reason why I’m not harping on Chandler taking away minutes anymore.
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JMac1 wrote:cosmofizzo wrote:ATTL wrote:Schroeder took a layup with his team down 3 and time expiring. Do not want.
Coach Bud i want. Good coach, az connection.
I know we all feel snakebitten after making our last interim coach permanent, but what has Triano failed to show? We've seen strategic exploitation of the rules, strong growth from our young players on both ends and the integration of additional sets and plays. He's added accountability to our locker room without getting preachy or personal. No drama, no flash, just basketball.
If the season ended today, Triano would have my vote.
Not gonna And 1 you, however, I wouldn’t be mad. This is the first time in a long time where we have not had any drama on this team. The guys seem really support each other; that is the only reason why I’m not harping on Chandler taking away minutes anymore.
I'm not mad about Chandler taking Len's minutes because (1) for all the praise we've given Len, Chandler has remained at least equally effective over the long run, and (2) Chandler's under contract for one more year, and there's a solid chance we'll be drafting another young C to be his understudy this summer.
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Anyone who thinks we don't need another surefire star to compete in the 2020-2030 decade is fooling themselves. We need competitive L's and we need one of Ayton/Bagley/Doncic/Young/Bomba
We are not nearly good enough to compete as is in 2020-2030. Not a popular opinion bc winning feels good, and we need to learn to win, but we really need to focus on getting another star in the draft, ideally Ayton somehow but we've won too many games I fear to get him. Bagley and Ayton are franchise changers
I don't know about you but I want to win actual titles not be a mere playoff team in 2020-2030. With our current core as they develop and mature, we'll be a playoff team maybe in a few years.
I want to be a title contender.
Tanking for Ayton/Bagley especially those 2 helps us get to that title down the line. Need superstars. We have Booker. Need to hope Quese/Bender/Jackson develop more and more.
Obviously want to win I'm as diehard as they come fan wise, but this team really needs to figure out how to land one of those stars in the draft this year.
We are not nearly good enough to compete as is in 2020-2030. Not a popular opinion bc winning feels good, and we need to learn to win, but we really need to focus on getting another star in the draft, ideally Ayton somehow but we've won too many games I fear to get him. Bagley and Ayton are franchise changers
I don't know about you but I want to win actual titles not be a mere playoff team in 2020-2030. With our current core as they develop and mature, we'll be a playoff team maybe in a few years.
I want to be a title contender.
Tanking for Ayton/Bagley especially those 2 helps us get to that title down the line. Need superstars. We have Booker. Need to hope Quese/Bender/Jackson develop more and more.
Obviously want to win I'm as diehard as they come fan wise, but this team really needs to figure out how to land one of those stars in the draft this year.
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cosmofizzo wrote:ATTL wrote:Schroeder took a layup with his team down 3 and time expiring. Do not want.
Coach Bud i want. Good coach, az connection.
I know we all feel snakebitten after making our last interim coach permanent, but what has Triano failed to show? We've seen strategic exploitation of the rules, strong growth from our young players on both ends and the integration of additional sets and plays. He's added accountability to our locker room without getting preachy or personal. No drama, no flash, just basketball.
If the season ended today, Triano would have my vote.
Me too. I wince, because of what we did with Watson. But I do not think the Watson situation should keep the Suns from considering a qualified candidate either.
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RaisingArizona wrote:sunsbg wrote:Pushing Devin for the all star game, I guess. There is no other reason to play a recently injured player 41 mins just to win by a point against a higher draft pick contender.
Bender's boxscore is depressing..JJ's DNP
Draft position means jack****. Booker wants to win and so should the fans.
Excited for Booker, not that much for a one point win against the worst team in the league.
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jcsunsfan wrote:cosmofizzo wrote:ATTL wrote:Schroeder took a layup with his team down 3 and time expiring. Do not want.
Coach Bud i want. Good coach, az connection.
I know we all feel snakebitten after making our last interim coach permanent, but what has Triano failed to show? We've seen strategic exploitation of the rules, strong growth from our young players on both ends and the integration of additional sets and plays. He's added accountability to our locker room without getting preachy or personal. No drama, no flash, just basketball.
If the season ended today, Triano would have my vote.
Me too. I wince, because of what we did with Watson. But I do not think the Watson situation should keep the Suns from considering a qualified candidate either.
I was thinking about this last night and I agree about Triano..I think he's done a fantastic job. But I also won't be surprised if, because our schedule gets tough and we lose many games the rest of the way largely to being inexperienced and young, despite the good coaching, that many will be wanting a new one. I think Triano, at this point, deserves it if he wants it and regardless of w/l the rest of the way, if our players continue to progress, I'm definitely for keeping him if it's his desire to be head coach. The grass isn't always greener.
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Definitely do your due diligence on hiring a coach. If it turns out to be JT than good for him. But we better at least interview other coaches.
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Triano does not want to be a long-term HC. He has said so since being promoted at least twice.

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Don't even know what I'm looking at but and1 for the cool graph and the Suns looking good on it


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lilfishi22 wrote:gaspar wrote:
Don't even know what I'm looking at but and1 for the cool graph and the Suns looking good on it![]()

carey wrote:It is 2-time, every time.
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NTB wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:gaspar wrote:
Don't even know what I'm looking at but and1 for the cool graph and the Suns looking good on it![]()
I felt the same.
That's the Suns' probability of winning throughout the game.... .5 represents 50%...see how after halftime it started going down and midway thru the fourth it got down and hovered on or near 0% probability and then right before the final end of the graph it goes straight up to 100%.
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