Celtics Fan Group Therapy

sam_I_am · Post #41 » by **sam_I_am** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:00 am

I think Fultz is the #1 pick but the separation between him and #4 best player is tiny. I have heard a GM say you could put Tatum, JJ, Ball and MF names in a hat and pick em. If this is true, Danny just grabbed a lottery pick for nothing. Of the top 4 - Fultz is the only one who fits the need of Sixers. Although he is a scorer, he along with Ball are exactly what we don't need.

I think we fill need for scorer in FA. Tatum or JJ give us depth, size at wings. JJ is another nasty kick ass competitor who is ready to play like Smart. He helps us the most right now and is most versatile and taylor made for today's NBA.

Taget · Post #42 » by **Taget** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:00 am

williambh3 wrote:Fultz doesn't care about winning... You get to pick your college teammates, and Fultz picked mediocre ones...

Then they massively under-performed... the back half of the Pac was bad this year, and UW still LOST ALL BUT TWO GAMES...

No guard picked in the top 5 in the past 25 years has missed the tourney... Fultz missed the tourney by a mile...

Fultz put up big numbers because they ran a fast pace and they just let him hunt shots early in the clock...

Most interviews I've heard he just talks about being able to put up stats...

I don't think he projects as particularly efficient... Does not project to get to the line at a high rate or shoot above average from deep... his 3 pt % was fluky good in college...

Dragic is his ceiling...

Feeling better?

If I remember from watching Fultz little reality show on Capitol Hoops where he documented his college selection process he chose Washington because they would let him play point guard. Whereas other teams wanted him at shooting guard.

Cyclical · Post #43 » by **Cyclical** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:30 am

TyCobb wrote:Fultz is really overrated guys. He has horrible shot selection, lazy defense, too much upper body weight for his knees, sulking attitude when things dont go the way he wants it to, and a false confidence that needs to be reinforced daily.

He is a good fit for the 76ers where he can be third guy, but he is not the #1 leader/difference maker on a team.

You will be very happy in the end. Tatum is much better for Stevens and the Celtics.

A Lakers fan for the win.

Tatum on this team, as composed, can be magical. Paul George type game. Hard worker, intelligent, efficient. I believe he'll have a better NBA career than Fultz.

Dannyboy36 · Post #44 » by **Dannyboy36** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 2:43 pm

sam_I_am wrote:I think Fultz is the #1 pick but the separation between him and #4 best player is tiny. I have heard a GM say you could put Tatum, JJ, Ball and MF names in a hat and pick em. If this is true, Danny just grabbed a lottery pick for nothing. Of the top 4 - Fultz is the only one who fits the need of Sixers. Although he is a scorer, he along with Ball are exactly what we don't need.

I think we fill need for scorer in FA. Tatum or JJ give us depth, size at wings. JJ is another nasty kick ass competitor who is ready to play like Smart. He helps us the most right now and is most versatile and taylor made for today's NBA.

But smart is awful.

Red2 · Post #45 » by **Red2** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:13 pm

There has to be another deal in place or getting ready to go down because if not there's no way danny would have done the trade this early. He would have waited and let the lakers , sixers and whoever bid up the value. So that tells me that we are trading the third pick along with the other pick we just got from philly for a veteran player. THis gives Chicago the opportunity to work some guys out. Keep your eyes on the wire to see who is working out for Chicago or some other team that doesn't have a top pick. Personally I like but don't love butler and wouldnt mortgage the future for him but here's the rub- thomas and horford aren't getting any younger. You just went to the ECF and won a game from cleveland without your best player. If you draft jackson or tatum or whoever, does that move the needle for you in the playoffs next year? Probably not. BUt Butler or George? hell yeah. The guy I would go after is Klay Thompson. HE will never get the ball like he did before Durant arrived. I would give up two numbers ones but players to get him. Bradley shut down butler so is butler really that much better than AB? And George is a prima donna who is forcing his way out of Indy. he's going to cleveland for Love anyway so why waste time on him?

sam_I_am · Post #46 » by **sam_I_am** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:57 pm

Dannyboy36 wrote:
sam_I_am wrote:I think Fultz is the #1 pick but the separation between him and #4 best player is tiny. I have heard a GM say you could put Tatum, JJ, Ball and MF names in a hat and pick em. If this is true, Danny just grabbed a lottery pick for nothing. Of the top 4 - Fultz is the only one who fits the need of Sixers. Although he is a scorer, he along with Ball are exactly what we don't need.

I think we fill need for scorer in FA. Tatum or JJ give us depth, size at wings. JJ is another nasty kick ass competitor who is ready to play like Smart. He helps us the most right now and is most versatile and taylor made for today's NBA.

But smart is awful.

Smart would never be called the best athlete in a draft. Bad shooting, a weak handle, and a first step too slow to beat power forwards is a terrible combination. Josh is the most explosive wing in recent memory - much better athlete than Jaylan, Ingram, Wiggins etc. and he has a great handle.

fraanciiscoo · Post #47 » by **fraanciiscoo** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:35 pm

SuperDeluxe wrote:
fraanciiscoo wrote:I'm cured

Watch on YouTube

I don't think 7 minutes is enough to predict a player's career, but that video looked ugly.

ofc not
in fact I think he tanked this workout hoping to fall to the lakers
I know alot here love the TTP but players dont want to go there period

Iguodaladon · Post #48 » by **Iguodaladon** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:47 pm

I'm prescribing this article as a mustread to help numb the pain: https://www.si.com/nba/2017/06/17/trade-grades-draft-sixers-celtics-no-1-pick-markelle-fultz-joel-embiid-picks

We could potentially have 2 top 10 picks in another strong draft next year much more suited to our needs!

Stadium5 · Post #49 » by **Stadium5** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:36 pm

How much longer do we have to go through the typical Ainge GM habits as Celts fans?

When is he retiring

Where's Hinkie

RobZagnut · Post #50 » by **RobZagnut** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:43 pm

TyCobb wrote:Fultz is really overrated guys. He has horrible shot selection, lazy defense, too much upper body weight for his knees, sulking attitude when things dont go the way he wants it to, and a false confidence that needs to be reinforced daily.

He is a good fit for the 76ers where he can be third guy, but he is not the #1 leader/difference maker on a team.

You will be very happy in the end. Tatum is much better for Stevens and the Celtics.

I said this months ago on one of these Fultz/draft topics. I was at the UW vs. Gonzaga game. Fultz didn't look that good to me. He was smooth, but not explosive. Nothing eye-popping. The reason he had decent stats was because Coach Romar left him in with 5:00 to go, down 25 against the 2nd stringers and 2:10 to go against 3rd stringers. Who does that?

RobZagnut · Post #51 » by **RobZagnut** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:46 pm

Leprechaun18 wrote:The one really good thing Danny has done is hire Brad Stevens...

Hmmmm. I seem to recall a certain trade with the Nets that got three first round lottery picks. Make that now, four lottery picks.

Selective memory is never a good thing.

TheRealKaboom · Post #52 » by **TheRealKaboom** » Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:40 am

RobZagnut wrote:
TyCobb wrote:Fultz is really overrated guys. He has horrible shot selection, lazy defense, too much upper body weight for his knees, sulking attitude when things dont go the way he wants it to, and a false confidence that needs to be reinforced daily.

He is a good fit for the 76ers where he can be third guy, but he is not the #1 leader/difference maker on a team.

You will be very happy in the end. Tatum is much better for Stevens and the Celtics.

I said this months ago on one of these Fultz/draft topics. I was at the UW vs. Gonzaga game. Fultz didn't look that good to me. He was smooth, but not explosive. Nothing eye-popping. The reason he had decent stats was because Coach Romar left him in with 5:00 to go, down 25 against the 2nd stringers and 2:10 to go against 3rd stringers. Who does that?

Who does that? A college coach who wants to recruit players by telling them he just coached a guy to be the #1 pick in the NBA draft.

Jaqua92 · Post #53 » by **Jaqua92** » Wed Jan 3, 2018 8:54 pm

This thread popped up in another. Bumping for reflection, guys

DelMonte West · Post #54 » by **DelMonte West** » Thu Jan 4, 2018 1:03 am

If I were a Sixers fan I'd be livid.

Writebloc · Post #55 » by **Writebloc** » Thu Jan 4, 2018 3:36 am

Stadium5 wrote:How much longer do we have to go through the typical Ainge GM habits as Celts fans?

When is he retiring

Where's Hinkie

Yikes, this take hasn't aged well...

thelarrybirdx · Post #56 » by **thelarrybirdx** » Thu Jan 4, 2018 9:11 am

I really have no idea why people doubt Ainge after everything he's done. I seriously can't remember the last time he hasn't won a trade.

Stadium5 · Post #57 » by **Stadium5** » Thu Jan 4, 2018 5:41 pm

Writebloc wrote:
Stadium5 wrote:How much longer do we have to go through the typical Ainge GM habits as Celts fans?

When is he retiring

Where's Hinkie

Yikes, this take hasn't aged well...

Back when he looked to be keeping IT

Now I'm on Ainge's side after he did exactly what I suggested and got blasted for on here

Writebloc · Post #58 » by **Writebloc** » Thu Jan 4, 2018 6:10 pm

Stadium5 wrote:
Writebloc wrote:
Stadium5 wrote:How much longer do we have to go through the typical Ainge GM habits as Celts fans?

When is he retiring

Where's Hinkie

Yikes, this take hasn't aged well...

Back when he looked to be keeping IT

Now I'm on Ainge's side after he did exactly what I suggested and got blasted for on here

Oh yeah? He traded IT for Clint Capella? Hmmmm... I don't seem to see him on the floor. That's a clever interpretation. If I infer from what you've written here, Ainge should have been fired for not taking Fultz! Thank goodness the Celtics don't have you making the big moves in the front office.

Stadium5 · Post #59 » by **Stadium5** » Thu Jan 4, 2018 9:00 pm

Writebloc wrote:
Stadium5 wrote:
Writebloc wrote:
Yikes, this take hasn't aged well...

Back when he looked to be keeping IT

Now I'm on Ainge's side after he did exactly what I suggested and got blasted for on here

Oh yeah? He traded IT for Clint Capella? Hmmmm... I don't seem to see him on the floor. That's a clever interpretation. If I infer from what you've written here, Ainge should have been fired for not taking Fultz! Thank goodness the Celtics don't have you making the big moves in the front office.

You're bitter and butthurt about being on the wrong side of the argument most of the time. Capela was an ideat, never the one and only option. Wasn't even the full deal..either tell the whole story or go sit in the corner and dont talk at all.

Still bitter lol

Writebloc · Post #60 » by **Writebloc** » Thu Jan 4, 2018 10:15 pm

Stadium5 wrote:
Writebloc wrote:
Stadium5 wrote:Back when he looked to be keeping IT

Now I'm on Ainge's side after he did exactly what I suggested and got blasted for on here

Oh yeah? He traded IT for Clint Capella? Hmmmm... I don't seem to see him on the floor. That's a clever interpretation. If I infer from what you've written here, Ainge should have been fired for not taking Fultz! Thank goodness the Celtics don't have you making the big moves in the front office.

You're bitter and butthurt about being on the wrong side of the argument most of the time. Capela was an ideat, never the one and only option. Wasn't even the full deal..either tell the whole story or go sit in the corner and dont talk at all.

Still bitter lol

Sooooo clueless, whatever kiddo, I was on the wrong side of the argument and you were the one calling for Ainge's head. Plus looking for Hinkie to tank, ooops I meant take over. Your probably looking for Ainge to trade Tatum and Jaylen for draft picks because they are getting too old. Stick with the 2K simulations, that seems to be you forte, real basketball is obviously beyond your comprehension.