The Jabari Discussion Thread - Back 2/2

[SirChurros]

Calling Parker fat is also one of the more humorous things I've read.

There have been very few players in NBA history who I can think of who I'd call "fat."

[Jez2983]

Calling Parker fat is also one of the more humorous things I've read.

There have been very few players in NBA history who I can think of who I'd call "fat."

Fat Lever?

[HaroldinGMinor]

Calling Parker fat is also one of the more humorous things I've read.

There have been very few players in NBA history who I can think of who I'd call "fat."

Fat Lever?

He's got you there.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Calling Parker fat is also one of the more humorous things I've read.

There have been very few players in NBA history who I can think of who I'd call "fat."

hes built like players of the 1980's. hes not fat.

[randy84]

Calling Parker fat is also one of the more humorous things I've read.

There have been very few players in NBA history who I can think of who I'd call "fat."

More humorous than calling him autistic?

[JayMKE]

Haters gonna hate

[Diggr14]

That said, I hope none of the blind optimism just said by Diggr is anyone in the front office's mind as they go through this process. Two torn ACLs is a big deal, just because you like the dude and he's already on our team doesn't change that fact. If he was a straight up FA right now from a different team, and we had cap space to sign him, would anyone be advocating for 4/100 for him? Let alone what he's asking? Just be realistic on it.

It’s not blind optimism, it’s the reality of the situation. He came back and put up those numbers last time in the season after injury, which is what I said in the blurb above that I could see him doing it again. To expect the same thing might be actually selling him short... considering he’s a little older now and apparently the surgery was done right this time. Like MD said, If he comes back and has solid stints as a scorer off the bench in his comeback this year, he will get max’d or close to by someone else in RFA (he suggests 4/80..i personally think it will be a little higher)... and we will match, take it to the bank. They aren’t going to let a 23 year old, former #2 pick who put up 20ppg, with clear upside go away for nothing. Just won’t happen unless he gets hurt again, or does something to piss them off on the way out.

I said the same thing that if he does well they can't let him go for nothing. But yes to essentially say 'two torn acls is no biggie' is blind optimism when no player has ever come back and played like their old self after it. Hoping for the best of course, but I hope management is being realistic and seemingly they are since they didn't cave at the deadline for his extension and are going to make him prove it for a few months.

It’s not as bad as it used to be. Surgeries are usually leaving the athletes with a great chance of repeating their success. Even a guy like Terrell Suggs had 2 ACL injuries, came back... in 5 months no less. Jabari is like half his age, I’m liking his chances.

[Diggr14]

Calling Parker fat is also one of the more humorous things I've read.

There have been very few players in NBA history who I can think of who I'd call "fat."

More humorous than calling him autistic?

He meant Awesomeistic.

[coolhandluke121]

Was LeBron fat before he slimmed down a year or two ago? Is he fat now after he decided he was more effective with the weight and put it back on?

No. That's muscle. This is (quite clearly) not:

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Lol at anyone saying he doesn't have a history of a weight problem (read up on his high school history, check the pic above, and watch the video of the Bucks celebrating in the locker room after Brogdon's triple double when Jabari was as fit as we've seen him) and lmfao at anyone comparing him to regular people instead of NBA sf's. Of course he's not "fat" but it's ridiculous to think his bulk is not a liability at this level of athletic competition.

I remember having these same damn arguments about Redd. People were posting pics and **** where he looked pretty muscular but he was severely lacking in tone compared to other NBA players and one year later he admitted he was 20% body fat that year and that was when his knee problems started. You'd think some people would learn.

You guys are seriously out of **** control with your denial. Get a clue.

[Bucks2585]

i agree with the above poster saying he fat in a sense in that Jabari will always be bigger and possibly prone to excess weight. People in general are and aren't in terms of body type. Henson can't gain weight no matter how much Chipotle he eats haha. Serious though, Jabari will always have a weight excess compared to most players. He works extremely hard which mitigates it and that makes him a good player offensively, but that will likely hold him back as a defender for his entire career.

However, I feel we can use this Jabari Honestly, I'd like to see Jabari try and guard small ball centers a bit. In terms of a big body, defensively with help behind him, he's the only rotation player who would match the weight of opposing centers. In terms, of overall strength, he has plenty, Dramond does it well enough physically when he calay post defense against most, especially si Che most centers can't post up nowadays like they did in the past. Maybe a lineup with Thon-Parker down low can work out really well if Thon spaces the floor offensively. But I think having a player like Parker being bigger and technically fatter could help the team tremendously since our value on length on the perimeter is clearly apparent

[GBBucks]

Guys, Zach Randolph is fat, so he could never be a good player. Same with Charles barkley. And Shaq. Their weights were serious liabilities.

If only the packers had drafted Vernon gholston, he's a prime DE, and was in super good shape. Or Aaron Maybin. Aaron Rodgers is kind of skinny fat. Let's get rid of him.

We should trade Jabari for Faried, he's in great shape.


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[bucksfansince88]

G league coach referring to Jabari as a guard wonder what ball skills he’s been showing in those practices

[Diggr14]

If Jabari is fat, Lebron is fat.

[Gianstoppable]

Guys, Zach Randolph is fat, so he could never be a good player. Same with Charles barkley. And Shaq. Their weights were serious liabilities.

If only the packers had drafted Vernon gholston, he's a prime DE, and was in super good shape. Or Aaron Maybin. Aaron Rodgers is kind of skinny fat. Let's get rid of him.

We should trade Jabari for Faried, he's in great shape.


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You're missing the point. This is about his injury risk with his style of play

[GBBucks]

Guys, Zach Randolph is fat, so he could never be a good player. Same with Charles barkley. And Shaq. Their weights were serious liabilities.

If only the packers had drafted Vernon gholston, he's a prime DE, and was in super good shape. Or Aaron Maybin. Aaron Rodgers is kind of skinny fat. Let's get rid of him.

We should trade Jabari for Faried, he's in great shape.


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You're missing the point. This is about his injury risk with his style of play

No, I'm not missing the point. I'm just getting in on the **** ridiculousness of this thread.


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[Gianstoppable]

The recovery times of Jabari is enough to make some fellas go crazy

[RogerMurdock]

I love this board in the weirdest, most unhealthy way.

This is just **** PR fluff and you're obviously a fat piece of ****.

[trwi7]

Calling Parker fat is also one of the more humorous things I've read.

There have been very few players in NBA history who I can think of who I'd call "fat."

Fat Lever?

I have a fat lever that's loaded with fulcrum.

That would be so much better if there wasn't an r in fulcrum.

[Pachinko_]

he's obese, lazy, autistic and conniving, but we love him anyway.

[DingleJerry]

It’s not blind optimism, it’s the reality of the situation. He came back and put up those numbers last time in the season after injury, which is what I said in the blurb above that I could see him doing it again. To expect the same thing might be actually selling him short... considering he’s a little older now and apparently the surgery was done right this time. Like MD said, If he comes back and has solid stints as a scorer off the bench in his comeback this year, he will get max’d or close to by someone else in RFA (he suggests 4/80..i personally think it will be a little higher)... and we will match, take it to the bank. They aren’t going to let a 23 year old, former #2 pick who put up 20ppg, with clear upside go away for nothing. Just won’t happen unless he gets hurt again, or does something to piss them off on the way out.

I said the same thing that if he does well they can't let him go for nothing. But yes to essentially say 'two torn acls is no biggie' is blind optimism when no player has ever come back and played like their old self after it. Hoping for the best of course, but I hope management is being realistic and seemingly they are since they didn't cave at the deadline for his extension and are going to make him prove it for a few months.

It’s not as bad as it used to be. Surgeries are usually leaving the athletes with a great chance of repeating their success. Even a guy like Terrell Suggs had 2 ACL injuries, came back... in 5 months no less. Jabari is like half his age, I’m liking his chances.

Sure, it's better than before. But an NBA player has never been what he was after two. Moreover, the articles put on this board talking about the odds of re-tear after a second are very concerning. They have to factor all that in. Of course there is a best case scenario, that's what you're talking about here and why I called it blind optimism. Management should be handling all this from a risk/reward scenario. Best case is of course an option, retear is an option too. Chances are they can't get anything substantial for him right now anyway so they don't have a choice but to ride it out for a bit and see what happens. You can point out Suggs and Adrian Peterson type successes in a different sport that steroid use is rampantly encouraged. I can point out that Derek Rose only did it once and he's been a wreck ever since and probably multiple others where guys we slowed down. All areas of the spectrum and the odds/risk have to be considered. They can't just cross their fingers and assume everything will be great. Doing it twice in one knee is a big deal, much more than having done it just once.