Game 38: Utah Jazz @ Denver Nuggets 9:00 PM ET

Post #2 » by **NuggetsWY** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 12:14 am

Who's going to hurt the Nuggets the most? Ingles from 3 or Mitchell with his all-around scoring or Favors down low? Two having a good game is OK, but it's probably not OK if all three having a good game.

SoCalNuggsFan · Post #3 » by **SoCalNuggsFan** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 12:32 am

Gotta hope jerebko starts out on Jokic so he can go to the post on him like last game. Joker has problems with favors and can’t really guard jerebko either. Our guards shouldn’t have too much trouble making up for it though.

Mickey8 · Post #4 » by **Mickey8** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 1:49 am

I don't think Favors would give Jokic fits, if Jokic is involved on the offense from the start, it would be other way around, I remember Jokic dominated both him and Gobert few time last season, the problem is Jokic is not featured on the offense this season that much.

skywalker33 · Post #5 » by **skywalker33** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 1:58 am

Favor is averaging 19+ per game vs. DEN this season so to say he won't be impactful seems a bit erroneous IMO

skywalker33 · Post #6 » by **skywalker33** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 3:08 am

How does a 6-11 guy like Jokic only shoot 25% against 6-7 Sefolosha ??? Why isn't he getting posted up 10 times out of 10 ??

Mickey8 · Post #7 » by **Mickey8** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 3:11 am

Jokic doesn't deserve big bucks, doesn't have a drive to establish himself as an alpha male, 2 points and two boards in back to back games in the first half , that s not franchise player production , he should be disciplined by riding the bench , good thing he was taken out of the game two minutes before end of the first half , I am through with defending his disinterested butt :wink:

Post #8 » by **NuggetsWY** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 3:15 am

skywalker33 wrote:How does a 6-11 guy like Jokic only shoot 25% against 6-7 Sefolosha ??? Why isn't he getting posted up 10 times out of 10 ??

Like Hastings said, playing Jokic at PF means quicker guys are covering him. If he isn't going to take advantage of the shorter guys, the other teams are not going to be worried about him.

Post #9 » by **NuggetsWY** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 3:17 am

I really think I'm on board with Harris is our best player, especially when considering both ends. Murray just might be our second best player, although both of them need to assert themselves more. Lyles might be getting there - did you watch him grabbing rebounds even away from teammates. We need more of that attitude. Craig has some of that attitude also.

Chandler looks like he's sleep walking out there - not much movement. Plumlee's battling down low.

Mickey8 · Post #10 » by **Mickey8** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 3:20 am

I think Jokic is not even in the op 8 currently, even though he's the most talented player on the roster , too bad that his head is not wired correctly.

skywalker33 · Post #11 » by **skywalker33** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 3:20 am

NuggetsWY wrote:
skywalker33 wrote:How does a 6-11 guy like Jokic only shoot 25% against 6-7 Sefolosha ??? Why isn't he getting posted up 10 times out of 10 ??

Like Hastings said, playing Jokic at PF means quicker guys are covering him. If he isn't going to take advantage of the shorter guys, the other teams are not going to be worried about him.

Again, just ANOTHER reason to put Plumlee on the bench

Acountant_Z · Post #12 » by **Acountant_Z** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 3:25 am

I'd love to see Jokic traded. He would likely bring in nice return. Good for everyone.

skywalker33 · Post #13 » by **skywalker33** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 3:34 am

While I really like Lyles, have to note that Mitchell has a really nice game. He would have made it real easy to trade Barton IMO

skywalker33 · Post #14 » by **skywalker33** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 3:36 am

Acountant_Z wrote:I'd love to see Jokic traded. He would likely bring in nice return. Good for everyone.

knee-jerk reaction...from a NYer no less

skywalker33 · Post #15 » by **skywalker33** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 3:40 am

Lyles continues to impress me, 17pts so far, ferociously going after rebounds along with two steal !!

skywalker33 · Post #16 » by **skywalker33** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 3:45 am

LOVE that Lyles is taking it to the team that gave up on him 8-)

Post #17 » by **THE J0KER** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 4:01 am

Utah on road, especially without their best player Gobert, is so bad team, that our Team-Canada (Murray&Lyles) is quite enough to trash them.

Of course, other should be at least little bit involved. Jokic played one of his worst halftimes ever, so there is a huge difference when he finally started to play his game in the 3rd quarter.

Talking about Denver impressive 3rd quarters this season so far, I'm pretty sure we are something like NBA TOP3 team this season. I can't remember any team playing so much better one particular quarter almost every time like we do it this season.

skywalker33 · Post #18 » by **skywalker33** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 4:15 am

I STILL don't understand how Chandler is getting so many minutes while playing such horrible games, am I missing something here ? Powder Blue thinks he'll opt out looking for a Plumlee type deal, I can only hope his agent is that foolish. If he were to opt out can't see him getting any more than 3yr $21M but not from DEN

Post #19 » by **THE J0KER** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 4:38 am

He is better (more useful) now since he started to play more at PF spot, but I think 5 of his PF minutes should be redirected to Lyles, and 5 SF minutes to Craig, so his mpg should be downgraded from over 30 to about 20.

Malone is so generous to him in minutes, but so cruel to Lyles. Tonight I even feel sorry for Trey which is so pissed when Malone replaced him 3 minutes before the end of the match. Lyles wanted so much tonight to make a career-first 30+ game vs his former team. I don't know is Malone blind, or he doing such things intentionally (but on which purpose?), like these two triple-doubles which he stole from Joker early this season.

Plumlee deal is a big mistake (in terms of $$$ amount) and if we repeat the same overpaying mistake with another role player, it would damage our future. 4/52 for PF backup sounds good only if the name of that PF bench player is Trey Lyles and if we finally trade Faried. Lyles is young, and he can improve into good PF starter after the end of Millsap contract. Our biggest target this summer must be some good SF player, so when he comes, Chandler time in Denver will be over (and we also must develop Juancho).

Post #20 » by **NuggetsWY** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 5:02 am

THE J0KER wrote:He is better (more useful) now since he started to play more at PF spot, but I think 5 of his PF minutes should be redirected to Lyles, and 5 SF minutes to Craig, so his mpg should be downgraded from over 30 to about 20.

Malone is so generous to him in minutes, but so cruel to Lyles. Tonight I even feel sorry for Trey which is so pissed when Malone replaced him 3 minutes before the end of the match. Lyles wanted so much tonight to make a career-first 30+ game vs his former team. I don't know is Malone blind, or he doing such things intentionally (but on which purpose?), like these two triple-doubles which he stole from Joker early this season.

Plumlee deal is a big mistake (in terms of $$$ amount) and if we repeat the same overpaying mistake with another role player, it would damage our future. 4/52 for PF backup sounds good only if the name of that PF bench player is Trey Lyles and if we finally trade Faried. Lyles is young, and he can improve into good PF starter after the end of Millsap contract. Our biggest target this summer must be some good SF player, so when he comes, Chandler time in Denver will be over (and we also must develop Juancho).

Malone is all about Malone. He will say that he felt a player had enough, so he pulled him late in the game. He might say he was oblivious, but I doubt it.