Knicks-Heat PG Thread

Post #141 » by **Clyde Frazier** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 4:31 am

Seems like "this is a development year" is a lot of talk from hornacek. Coaching like he's trying to keep his job still. Jack playing like **** in OT and he doesn't pull him. Can't even set up KP for 1 shot.

Greenie · Post #142 » by **Greenie** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 4:34 am

Red Vines wrote:...and props to Beasley for his work but how in the world does iso-Beasley help move this team and organization forward? They're losing sight of the big picture.

What picture?
There is no picture.

Same **** different year.

Greenie · Post #143 » by **Greenie** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 4:35 am

Thugger HBC wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:I like KP, but he is the best player on the team and usually is on the court when the team collapses, thus that blame should be directed his way.

KP is really the only player on the team now that isn't playing to his capability.

He got the praise when he played above his norm, now he's should get that work.

I don't think he is primary reason for the team losing. That's Jeff all day.

i don't care that people say things about him at all. this aint his best stretch.

but if you're saying he cost us the game, you have to give him the ball at the end to see if he could close it for you. he wasn't even an option out there on 3 different late game possessions.

As much as I don't like Jeff's coaching, KP not getting the ball to close falls on KP. He doesn't seem to want it at that time.

I don't think Lee is the option of the play, but rather whomever gets open, just like the other game I doubt Kanter was the play to shoot the three.

It's KP's job to get open. At this point it appears he's hiding from the ball.

He did it earlier in the game too.

BenLaw · Post #144 » by **BenLaw** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 4:36 am

KnicksGod wrote:The Knicksiest moment is when we had the Heat stopped for a bunch of possessions in a row, then an easy and uncontested rebound that Beasley knocks out of O'Quinn's hands. Then we badly miss an assignment and leave them very wide open for a 3.

Game was Knicksed right there.

So, you're trying to blame the loss on Beas who was plus 5 while Pooorzingis was minus 11. Got it.

DOLPHIN2020 · Post #145 » by **DOLPHIN2020** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 4:36 am

Red Vines wrote:Two days off after the road game Sunday so maybe there will be some changes then.

4 of the next 5 games are highly winnable....hurting the tank

BenLaw · Post #146 » by **BenLaw** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 4:37 am

Red Vines wrote:...and props to Beasley for his work but how in the world does iso-Beasley help move this team and organization forward? They're losing sight of the big picture.

More KP and Frank bricks. Yeah. That'll do the trick.

3toheadmelo · Post #147 » by **3toheadmelo** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 4:37 am

Greenie wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
i don't care that people say things about him at all. this aint his best stretch.

but if you're saying he cost us the game, you have to give him the ball at the end to see if he could close it for you. he wasn't even an option out there on 3 different late game possessions.

As much as I don't like Jeff's coaching, KP not getting the ball to close falls on KP. He doesn't seem to want it at that time.

I don't think Lee is the option of the play, but rather whomever gets open, just like the other game I doubt Kanter was the play to shoot the three.

It's KP's job to get open. At this point it appears he's hiding from the ball.

He did it earlier in the game too.

but im told it's jack's fault..smh

Post #148 » by **Capn'O** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 4:38 am

Knicks have a defensive identity and that's a difference from years past. We just don't have the horses on offense. Tim would help and we'd won some of these middling games but I'm fine not getting those.

The late rotations are inexplicable. The team is playing the right way with the second unit. Mix and match a bit. Need to see frank, Lee, Doug, Beas, KP lineups and push.

Greenie · Post #149 » by **Greenie** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 4:39 am

Capn'O wrote:
god shammgod wrote:kp is getting doubled and has a 3rd guy shading him sometimes. and during all the clutch possessions they couldn't or didn't even bother to get him the ball. how can you blame him for a close loss then ?

I hate to say it but posters are doing the same **** with him.

You see all of Melo's wide open looks last night or light coverage?

Spoiler:
they go in

Hey Cap

Greenie · Post #150 » by **Greenie** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 4:39 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
Greenie wrote:
Thugger HBC wrote:As much as I don't like Jeff's coaching, KP not getting the ball to close falls on KP. He doesn't seem to want it at that time.

I don't think Lee is the option of the play, but rather whomever gets open, just like the other game I doubt Kanter was the play to shoot the three.

It's KP's job to get open. At this point it appears he's hiding from the ball.

He did it earlier in the game too.

but im told it's jack's fault..smh

Jack is still boo boo though.

Post #151 » by **mpharris36** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 4:39 am

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Post #152 » by **mpharris36** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 4:41 am

god shammgod wrote:kp is getting doubled and has a 3rd guy shading him sometimes. and during all the clutch possessions they couldn't or didn't even bother to get him the ball. how can you blame him for a close loss then ?

when frank was in he found him for back to back assists on open jumpers....then jeff took frank out for jackass

taj2133 · Post #153 » by **taj2133** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 4:42 am

9 million man ron baker give us nothing and steals dotson minutes for no reason. Ron baker should sit out and not played if he is in pain and is hurting there no point in playing him.

god shammgod · Post #154 » by **god shammgod** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 4:43 am

Greenie wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
god shammgod wrote:kp is getting doubled and has a 3rd guy shading him sometimes. and during all the clutch possessions they couldn't or didn't even bother to get him the ball. how can you blame him for a close loss then ?

I hate to say it but posters are doing the same **** with him.

You see all of Melo's wide open looks last night or light coverage?

Spoiler:
they go in

Hey Cap

yeah, greenie did predict this.....often :lol:

Clyde_Style · Post #155 » by **Clyde_Style** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 4:43 am

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Post #156 » by **mpharris36** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 4:43 am

Sark wrote:J Jack - 34 mins, 4 for 12 shooting, 8/2/5 and 3 TOs.

L Thomas - 28 mins, 0 for 2 shooting, 1/2/0 and 2 TOs.

Why will this joke end that we can be a playoff team. These two wouldn't even be in a rotation, let alone be starters, for any other playoff team.

but frank and dotson can't take these bum ass's minutes....thanks jeff

3toheadmelo · Post #157 » by **3toheadmelo** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 4:45 am

Greenie wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Greenie wrote:He did it earlier in the game too.

but im told it's jack's fault..smh

Jack is still boo boo though.

of course. KP deserves some of the blame though. he let olynyk and james johnson bully him all night. unacceptable

Little Italia · Post #158 » by **Little Italia** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 4:45 am

It's time to TANK. Bring that big m***** on!

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taj2133 · Post #159 » by **taj2133** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 4:48 am

frank had 5 fouls but should have played but frank has to stop committing stupid fouls he commits to many stupid fouls he got to stop doing that. To be honest with you guys i don't think jeff really like frank and i don't think he wanted him from day 1.

BenLaw · Post #160 » by **BenLaw** » Sat Jan 6, 2018 4:48 am

Capn'O wrote:Knicks have a defensive identity and that's a difference from years past. We just don't have the horses on offense. Tim would help and we'd won some of these middling games but I'm fine not getting those.

The late rotations are inexplicable. The team is playing the right way with the second unit. Mix and match a bit. Need to see frank, Lee, Doug, Beas, KP lineups and push.

Can't. KP refuses to play Center for extended minutes.