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Frank Mason is #471??

Is starting Tyler an attempt at tanking? Or our parting give to him before we decline to pick up his option?
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NavLDO wrote:TOO wrote:NavLDO wrote:
And Assts and 3PT%s, and STLs in vacuum are? How about you compare STLs to other Starting SFs, oh look, he's on par with the league average at his position. Let's look at Assts...21st amongst other starters, so top of the lower 3rd. Yep, he's bum. Let's forget about all these other areas he ranks against "starting" SFs
FTAs = 5th
FT% = 9th (for those with more than 100 FTAs)
FG% = 7th
2PT% = 3rd
PPG = 5th (And did you know the next 5 all play more MPG than he does?)
ORB = 1st
TRB/gm = 9th (PJ doesn't count, since he plays most minutes at PF)
TOs/gm = 13th
Blks/gm = 12th
Dbl-dbls = 6th
But hey, let's look at Assts, the most critical skillset for a SF, 2nd only to Stls, of course, and deem him "not anywhere near an all star level"
I almost hope we do trade him to a team with fans that would actually covet him for what he is.
let's take a look here...yep, these guys will do...how about...
Joe Ingles. A little light on the Steals...only half of Warren's, what was it? 'less than a steal' (.95), but he has 3X the assists at 4.2...AND he's shooting .435 from 3...never mind the fact he can't shoot from TWO (.440 FG%), averages just 75% of TRB, 28% of Blks, and 50% of Pts.
or if Stls are more important, we could go after...
Josh Richardson. He's averaging about 25% more than Warren in Stls, so he should be ideal. Plus, he averages 70% more Assts than Warren, too. Then add in his .358 vs .177 3PT%. Surely , he's much better than Warren, and closer to and All-Star than Warren. Never mind his 55% of TRB, or 65% of PPG.
Bottom line, you are trying make your point based upon 3 skillsets that are secondary in importance.
Let me ask you this. When fans, media, whoever, talk about a Forward and what he 'slashed', what numbers are placed in that 'stat' that is quoted? Stls?? Asts?? 3PT%?? No. When someone says Warren 'slashed' 21/5.5 the month of December, they are saying he scored 21 Pts and 5.5 TRB per game. Those are the 2 stats that REALLY matter...everything else is complimentary.
If Warren can't shoot 3PT shots, then we will have to rely on our other positions to provide this aspect of our offense, and with Booker, Bender or Chriss, and whatever PG/Combo Guard we employ next season, we can surely cover using that 60% of our offensive positions for our 3s.
Great addition to the discussion...
"If I just quote his post with an 'LOL' emoticon, I'll look cool, like I know more than he does, and I'm oh, so much more knowledgeable."
Or, why argue with a person who has already made up their mind? You wanna overrate Warren, that's totally fine. I disagree with your assessment. Way to look way farther into the emoticon than needed though.
Its simple for me, TJ Warren does 1 thing pretty well and that is score from inside the arc. Pretty much everything else he does is average or worse. He is somehow a potential all-star to you. You must be a huge fan of Eric Gordon, Lou Williams and Jamal Crawford too. 1 trick ponies seem to be your jam.
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TOO wrote:NavLDO wrote:TOO wrote:
Great addition to the discussion...
"If I just quote his post with an 'LOL' emoticon, I'll look cool, like I know more than he does, and I'm oh, so much more knowledgeable."
Or, why argue with a person who has already made up their mind? You wanna overrate Warren, that's totally fine. I disagree with your assessment. Way to look way farther into the emoticon than needed though.
Its simple for me, TJ Warren does 1 thing pretty well and that is score from inside the arc. Pretty much everything else he does is average or worse. He is somehow a potential all-star to you. You must be a huge fan of Eric Gordon, Lou Williams and Jamal Crawford too. 1 trick ponies seem to be your jam.
Jamal Crawford is old, and still arguably better than warren. When he was in his day, he was actually a decent starting 2. There were some years of all star talks as well.
Warren is a good player, bout it. Not great, or even semi star level, but decently good.
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Mulhollanddrive wrote:When I first joined here around 2014 it was blasphemy to say we should rebuild let alone through a 4-5 year process via the draft. It probably wasn't until maybe 18-24 months ago that this became an accepted strategy that posters didn't get criticised for.
Not only has it become an accepted strategy, it has now become the preferred, almost, required one of our fans. To even suggest that we trade draft picks or recently draft selections for All-Star players is the blasphemy, not the other way around.
I'm sure a few will argue that this isn't true. It was about not wanting Kyrie; not, not wanting an All-Star. I'd argue that there were a few of us on-board with Kyrie JUST BECAUSE he was an All-Star. Same with Boogie; if we would've traded for Boogie, 1/3 would've been upset, 1/3 would have been cautious since it was his last year, and another 1/3 would've liked it.
Some will argue that If it was for the right All-Star, that fans/posters won't have a problem with it, but I disagree; there will always be those unhappy with a player for one reason or another; it's more than that. It's this new 'love' for the draft and draft picks have changed. That was not usually the case. It was almost expected that we would trade away our pick for cash, or that he wouldn't be counted on as a major piece to the team...with few exceptions of course. Now it's EVERY year and EVERY 1st Rd pick is expected to be a key player in the rebuild, rather than what was initially intended--that they are assets to help us get us back to playoff status, and I think that has been forgotten since 2013 when McD first came to town.
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Waylay13 wrote:Frank Lee wrote:darealjuice wrote:But then when Kyrie leaves in 2 years and we’re left with nothing, you guys would be laughing at “McDoofus” and how dumb he was to give up Bledsoe and the #4 pick for an obvious 2 year rental that only got us back to our coveted late lottery pick.
That’s the BS assumption argument/rebuttal. That Irving or any other player for that matter would leave, so therefore, do not acquire them.
You don’t know that. Are we not to acquire anybody we can’t contractually control for 4+ years?
And as we have seen, even that does not guarantee a player remains here
Ps ... and what quiggs said
Yea and dont mind the fact that he says that he wont resign with the Suns. Dont let facts get in the way of your delusions.
And LeBron was never leaving Cleveland...
...and McD was going to trade for an All-Star
...and Kidd was going to sign with Dallas for 2 more years...
...and Boozer was going to re-sign with the Cavs...
and that's just some in the NBA...I'm sure their are tons of 'I'll never play for..." or "I will only play for's..." throughout history
Do have any idea how long two seasons is in the NBA? What a team can accomplish in 2 seasons? For one, it means you have at least one off-season with said player to build with, and two, you now CONTROL an All-Star that wants to potentially go to another team. You don't think McD could take advantage of that to get a player's to better help our rebuild??
Sorry, but a 25 YO All-Star Kyrie is worth a lot more than an injury riddled 28 YO Non-All-Star Bledsoe. Yes, we would have had to give up Jackson or our 2018 1st Rd pick. And look, WITHOUT Bledsoe OR Kyrie, we are not in the Top 5; imagine would Kyrie could have done for us. That 2018 Draft Pick...the one that would be 14-18...how much would that have been worth.
Bledsoe + 2018 15th Overall Pick ...VS ... Kyrie Irving
Which one is worth more. "Well, we didn't know that blah, blah, blah was going to happen..."
You're right; But you DID know that Kyrie Irving was a 25 YO All-Star. It's like the saying goes; "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush." But in this case, it's even worse, because as it turns out, one of the two in the bush has flown the coup, and the other one has turned out to be a runt.
So, what were you saying about facts getting in the way of your delusions...like the fact (because he said it) that we were going to trade Assets for disgruntled All-Stars...hmmm...
Kyrie = All-Star = Check
Kyrie = Disgruntled = Check
Suns had Assets, also = Check
Well, that's odd, McD SAID we were going to, you mean that wasn't a FACT? huh...
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carey wrote:It is 2-time, every time.
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jredsaz wrote:NavLDO wrote:Waylay13 wrote:Spoiler:
In order to advance into the playoffs it generally expected that you must have 2 all star level players. Portland has them, New Orleans has them, and even the clippers have them. The Suns on the other hand has one. Warren isnt close to being an All star level talent at small forward. This is just to get into the playoffs. Now in the age of the superteams we are going to need 3 all-star level talents to be able to complete against the Warriors or Houston. In otherwords even if we slip in to the playoffs we are out in the first round and the results are that we lose possible talent in the draft that might have pushed us into the playoffs for the long term next year.
Let me guess. Because TJ doesn't shoot the 3-ball well, right? Being 5th in the league (SFs) in PPG and PER isn't enough, while being top half in TRB, which, BTW, he's #1 in ORB? TJ plays 'differently'; that doesn't mean he's not near 'All-Star level' play. It just means he's an 'All-Star' in a unique way.
And we aren't far from a 'super-team' as you put it; we are building it, rather than buying it. That said, we probably need to 'buy' one. The rest will come from within. So, my point is, we are not far away. We have the assets we need; McD just needs to figure out what to do with these between now and the start of next season. A combination of getting a Combo Guard from the draft plus a Center via a trade, and we are set.
Other teams 'build' via the draft; the All-Stars you speak of didn't just appear from thin air. I still contend that Len could be an All-Sar Center, but he'll never get the chance. That's mismanagement of assets. We have our '18 pick + 3 others that do not belong to us in various years, plus JJ and, let's say Bender. Plus we have Monroe and others until the deadline.
That should be enough for us to get Young or Doncic PLUS get a Center, apparently, since Len appears not to be the answer, will surely get us our superteam...
His inability to shoot the 3 negatively impacts his efficiency, his teammates production and the offense as a whole. It's a big deal.
No, it really doesn't. At least it doesn't have to. Am I the only person that can be creative? Coaches, players, media, and fans alike all talk about this 'positionless' NBA, but yet can't seem grasp its meaning or impact. We have PFs that take the majority of their shots from outside the arc (252 vs 206), SGs and PGs that need to be able to soot the 3, so be it Booker, Daniels, Reed, or whoever our PG/Combo Guard will be, can shoot the 3s, leaving the Warren and our Center to shoot twos...and 40+% of his twos are over 10ft.
But, whatever, I guess we could just do things the way we always do, and not think outside of the box at all...
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Hope we don't flog Booker for 40 minutes a game just because an irrelevent player is out.
We have the opportunity to tryout another PG for 10 days now.
We have the opportunity to tryout another PG for 10 days now.
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NavLDO wrote:jredsaz wrote:NavLDO wrote:
Let me guess. Because TJ doesn't shoot the 3-ball well, right? Being 5th in the league (SFs) in PPG and PER isn't enough, while being top half in TRB, which, BTW, he's #1 in ORB? TJ plays 'differently'; that doesn't mean he's not near 'All-Star level' play. It just means he's an 'All-Star' in a unique way.
And we aren't far from a 'super-team' as you put it; we are building it, rather than buying it. That said, we probably need to 'buy' one. The rest will come from within. So, my point is, we are not far away. We have the assets we need; McD just needs to figure out what to do with these between now and the start of next season. A combination of getting a Combo Guard from the draft plus a Center via a trade, and we are set.
Other teams 'build' via the draft; the All-Stars you speak of didn't just appear from thin air. I still contend that Len could be an All-Sar Center, but he'll never get the chance. That's mismanagement of assets. We have our '18 pick + 3 others that do not belong to us in various years, plus JJ and, let's say Bender. Plus we have Monroe and others until the deadline.
That should be enough for us to get Young or Doncic PLUS get a Center, apparently, since Len appears not to be the answer, will surely get us our superteam...
His inability to shoot the 3 negatively impacts his efficiency, his teammates production and the offense as a whole. It's a big deal.
No, it really doesn't. At least it doesn't have to. Am I the only person that can be creative? Coaches, players, media, and fans alike all talk about this 'positionless' NBA, but yet can't seem grasp its meaning or impact. We have PFs that take the majority of their shots from outside the arc (252 vs 206), SGs and PGs that need to be able to soot the 3, so be it Booker, Daniels, Reed, or whoever our PG/Combo Guard will be, can shoot the 3s, leaving the Warren and our Center to shoot twos...and 40+% of his twos are over 10ft.
But, whatever, I guess we could just do things the way we always do, and not think outside of the box at all...
I have a hard time considering TJ a #3 option on a contender. Not having a 3-ball really hurts. We already see it now with our lack of spacing when he's on the floor. We also see when his defender completely disrespects his shot and batters down closer to the hoop baiting him into shooting the 3. Perhaps if we had 35%+ 3PT shooters in at least 3 other positions on the floor with him at the same time his weakness can be mitigated but right now, we have some of the worst spacing because we don't shoot the 3 ball well and TJ having the 2nd highest USG% and not having a 3 ball is a big part of it. Josh Jackson shoots the 3 better than him right now and that's scary.
Maybe he's fine if we are OK with being just a fringe playoff team but if we wanted to get to the next level and for TJ to be a major part of that, I do believe he needs to shoot the 3 reliably. It might not be that evident now since we're not a good team and he's still putting up an efficient 20ppg but on the highest levels, his weakness will 100% be exploited.
All this and we haven't even talked about his total lack of a passing game. In 1283 minutes played this season, TJ has logged 57 assists. JJ has 12 less assists in over 400 less min played. Marquese Chriss who has ZERO playmaking responsibilities has 6 less assists in 400 less min played. His assist rate is almost identical to that of a notorious black hole and who many considered would never get a ring with his style of basketball and that's 33 year old Melo which is a career low for him.
Let me put it in another way, in the last 5 seasons, of the 12 players with USG% higher than .25% (suggesting they are a considerable part of a team's offense), an AST% less than .10% (suggesting they aren't good passers), virtually all of them were big men. Of the 4 wings, Klay, TJ, Nick Young, Barnes, only Klay played on a winning team.
The only reason TJ gets a pass is because he's young, we don't have many shooters and he's an efficient scorer. I'm not hating on TJ, I'm not saying he's a bad player and I'm not saying he can't be on a good team but as I said, it might be OK for now but if we want to be a better team collectively and if he wants to take his game to the next level, he can't JUST be an efficient scorer.
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NavLDO wrote:jredsaz wrote:NavLDO wrote:
Let me guess. Because TJ doesn't shoot the 3-ball well, right? Being 5th in the league (SFs) in PPG and PER isn't enough, while being top half in TRB, which, BTW, he's #1 in ORB? TJ plays 'differently'; that doesn't mean he's not near 'All-Star level' play. It just means he's an 'All-Star' in a unique way.
And we aren't far from a 'super-team' as you put it; we are building it, rather than buying it. That said, we probably need to 'buy' one. The rest will come from within. So, my point is, we are not far away. We have the assets we need; McD just needs to figure out what to do with these between now and the start of next season. A combination of getting a Combo Guard from the draft plus a Center via a trade, and we are set.
Other teams 'build' via the draft; the All-Stars you speak of didn't just appear from thin air. I still contend that Len could be an All-Sar Center, but he'll never get the chance. That's mismanagement of assets. We have our '18 pick + 3 others that do not belong to us in various years, plus JJ and, let's say Bender. Plus we have Monroe and others until the deadline.
That should be enough for us to get Young or Doncic PLUS get a Center, apparently, since Len appears not to be the answer, will surely get us our superteam...
His inability to shoot the 3 negatively impacts his efficiency, his teammates production and the offense as a whole. It's a big deal.
No, it really doesn't. At least it doesn't have to. Am I the only person that can be creative? Coaches, players, media, and fans alike all talk about this 'positionless' NBA, but yet can't seem grasp its meaning or impact. We have PFs that take the majority of their shots from outside the arc (252 vs 206), SGs and PGs that need to be able to soot the 3, so be it Booker, Daniels, Reed, or whoever our PG/Combo Guard will be, can shoot the 3s, leaving the Warren and our Center to shoot twos...and 40+% of his twos are over 10ft.
But, whatever, I guess we could just do things the way we always do, and not think outside of the box at all...
Don't think you get the concept of positionless basketball. The point is that every player on the court can basically do everything. When you have a player with a glaring weakness they limit the lineup options a coach has. I like Warren a lot but just dismissing the giant hole in his game out of blind loyalty to the Suns is bad analysis.
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Pick 10 and 20 may be worth more in a trade than at the draft.
Lots of gettable PGs for that.
Lots of gettable PGs for that.
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Just read a reddit thread titled "What does your team need?"
Probably 2/3 of the responses were "rim protector."
Alex will have a market this summer for sure.
Probably 2/3 of the responses were "rim protector."
Alex will have a market this summer for sure.
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cosmofizzo wrote:Just read a reddit thread titled "What does your team need?"
Probably 2/3 of the responses were "rim protector."
Alex will have a market this summer for sure.
What teams do you think will want him? He only averages 1 block per game (1.6 per 36). There are a number of free agent centers...tons of restricted ones like Capela and Nurkic, but others such as Cousins, Jordan, Lopez, Noel, Okafor and a couple with player options like Dedmon and Kanter.
I don't think many teams need centers or will pay much for them..and a number will be drafted. Lopez even averages more blocks (1.6, and 2.4 per 36) and then Okafor and Noel avg the same per 36 though Okafor usually averages a lot more, and only played limited minutes in 5 games this year.
There may be a small market for them but it will likely be a buyers market with limited cap space and a number of free agents and rookies coming in.
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So people have mentioned trading for George Hill, and after reviewing the Trade Board I think I would consider trading for him because someone mentioned for 2019-20 season he could be cut with only $1mil guaranteed for that season. This is what was holding me back before was taking on that extra year of salary.
I wouldn't mind trading Monroe for Hill and maybe steal a 2nd round pick or two. It's doubtful they would include a 1st, maybe a pick swap where the Suns get the more favorable pick? That's doubtful too though.
Anyway, George Hill essentially expiring next season would be huge for the Suns as we would also have Tyson and Dudley expiring too. We could trade those three for a disgruntled star or simply let them walk and use the cap space on free agents.
On 2nd thought maybe trade Knight for Hill if the Kings would accept. Less money per year for them.
I wouldn't mind trading Monroe for Hill and maybe steal a 2nd round pick or two. It's doubtful they would include a 1st, maybe a pick swap where the Suns get the more favorable pick? That's doubtful too though.
Anyway, George Hill essentially expiring next season would be huge for the Suns as we would also have Tyson and Dudley expiring too. We could trade those three for a disgruntled star or simply let them walk and use the cap space on free agents.
On 2nd thought maybe trade Knight for Hill if the Kings would accept. Less money per year for them.
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Where did Alex Len go?
"Mannnnn I’m like the guy that pissed this whole board off saying literally all year no Mikal, no Mikal in the KD trade."
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lilfishi22 wrote:NavLDO wrote:jredsaz wrote:
His inability to shoot the 3 negatively impacts his efficiency, his teammates production and the offense as a whole. It's a big deal.
No, it really doesn't. At least it doesn't have to. Am I the only person that can be creative? Coaches, players, media, and fans alike all talk about this 'positionless' NBA, but yet can't seem grasp its meaning or impact. We have PFs that take the majority of their shots from outside the arc (252 vs 206), SGs and PGs that need to be able to soot the 3, so be it Booker, Daniels, Reed, or whoever our PG/Combo Guard will be, can shoot the 3s, leaving the Warren and our Center to shoot twos...and 40+% of his twos are over 10ft.
But, whatever, I guess we could just do things the way we always do, and not think outside of the box at all...
I have a hard time considering TJ a #3 option on a contender. Not having a 3-ball really hurts. We already see it now with our lack of spacing when he's on the floor. We also see when his defender completely disrespects his shot and batters down closer to the hoop baiting him into shooting the 3. Perhaps if we had 35%+ 3PT shooters in at least 3 other positions on the floor with him at the same time his weakness can be mitigated but right now, we have some of the worst spacing because we don't shoot the 3 ball well and TJ having the 2nd highest USG% and not having a 3 ball is a big part of it. Josh Jackson shoots the 3 better than him right now and that's scary.
Maybe he's fine if we are OK with being just a fringe playoff team but if we wanted to get to the next level and for TJ to be a major part of that, I do believe he needs to shoot the 3 reliably. It might not be that evident now since we're not a good team and he's still putting up an efficient 20ppg but on the highest levels, his weakness will 100% be exploited.
All this and we haven't even talked about his total lack of a passing game. In 1283 minutes played this season, TJ has logged 57 assists. JJ has 12 less assists in over 400 less min played. Marquese Chriss who has ZERO playmaking responsibilities has 6 less assists in 400 less min played. His assist rate is almost identical to that of a notorious black hole and who many considered would never get a ring with his style of basketball and that's 33 year old Melo which is a career low for him.
Let me put it in another way, in the last 5 seasons, of the 12 players with USG% higher than .25% (suggesting they are a considerable part of a team's offense), an AST% less than .10% (suggesting they aren't good passers), virtually all of them were big men. Of the 4 wings, Klay, TJ, Nick Young, Barnes, only Klay played on a winning team.
The only reason TJ gets a pass is because he's young, we don't have many shooters and he's an efficient scorer. I'm not hating on TJ, I'm not saying he's a bad player and I'm not saying he can't be on a good team but as I said, it might be OK for now but if we want to be a better team collectively and if he wants to take his game to the next level, he can't JUST be an efficient scorer.
And I'm not necessarily at odds with you, but as I alluded, once Chriss/Bender become more consistent, we have PFs that shoot the 3 at a clip of 38% or higher; we have Booker that does as well; once we bring in a 3rd, be it Reed with Booker as the Combo, or some PG with Booker as the SG...whatever. That's 3 of 5 'shooters'. Using the 'traditional' model, most teams only have 2-3 3PT threats...some have 4...but it's certainly not a requirement.
Regarding his assists, he had 5 just 2 games ago...he had 4 back on 12/20...and is averaging 1.8 per game his past 10 games. Overall, his AP48 is 2.1. Porter's is 2.8. Wiggins is 2.3. Ariza is 2.2. Tobias Harris is 2.6. And Bojan Bogdanovich is 2.2. Not to mention Covington (2.8), Stan the Man (2.5), and MKG (2.2). So, rather than just looking at it in a vacuum against another stat of his, look at other starting SFs and their numbers, and you see the while Warren's number are less, we're talking, in many cases, just fractions less.
But the big piece here, is again, understanding that Warren is a different animal than any other SF out there; he's special in that regard. Rather than look at that as a problem that needs to be hidden, why not find a way to take advantage of the skillset so that we have a weapon that no one else has...an unconventional offense that will require extra attention to defend against.
But whatever, I'm not a coach, not a player...just a fan. What do I know? Maybe there's no way to make it work in it's current form...
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 4
NavLDO wrote:But the big piece here, is again, understanding that Warren is a different animal than any other SF out there; he's special in that regard. Rather than look at that as a problem that needs to be hidden, why not find a way to take advantage of the skillset so that we have a weapon that no one else has...an unconventional offense that will require extra attention to defend against.
But whatever, I'm not a coach, not a player...just a fan. What do I know? Maybe there's no way to make it work in it's current form...
The issue is that Warren isnt he star player on this team that is Booker. Warren needs to develop his game to complement Booker's. Meaning that he has to make Bookers job by opening up the middle helping on defense on wings but he doesnt do these things. That is why I think he is a 6th man as his time with the second unit would be the most productive and the bench could build around his talents.
Just say no to idiots!!