Trade Thread (TRADE WARS EPISODE V: The Empire Strikes Back)

[wco81]

He may be. He did better against CP3 than Bell did.

But I think Bell is more the rim runner threat on lobs than Looney is.

[Juannydawkins]

Hey Guys - Sixers Fan here, I come in peace.

SO - this would have to be a very special situation to happen. Nothing that you guys would like to have happen - but we're talking hypotheticals here anyhow.

Perhaps you guys lose to Houston or the Spurs or something like that...or even the Thunder in an earlier round. Klay decides he's going to want Max money - so asks the team to trade him for what they can get, as a favor to them. Offseason deal.

My offer:

Fultz (if he's playing well)
Bayless (warriors can cut)
Best of Sixers/Kings (or LA) pick

For:
Klay (if he agrees to resign for max)

Do you take the deal?

[Phase 3]

Hey Guys - Sixers Fan here, I come in peace.

SO - this would have to be a very special situation to happen. Nothing that you guys would like to have happen - but we're talking hypotheticals here anyhow.

Perhaps you guys lose to Houston or the Spurs or something like that...or even the Thunder in an earlier round. Klay decides he's going to want Max money - so asks the team to trade him for what they can get, as a favor to them. Offseason deal.

My offer:

Fultz (if he's playing well)
Bayless (warriors can cut)
Best of Sixers/Kings (or LA) pick

For:
Klay (if he agrees to resign for max)

Do you take the deal?

It’s not a bad offer but I don’t think the Warriors would do that because they are in win-now mode this year and the next couple years. That trade obviously gives good value in return for Klay but most of that value(Fultz and the pick) are “future” type assets.

[Juannydawkins]

Hey Guys - Sixers Fan here, I come in peace.

SO - this would have to be a very special situation to happen. Nothing that you guys would like to have happen - but we're talking hypotheticals here anyhow.

Perhaps you guys lose to Houston or the Spurs or something like that...or even the Thunder in an earlier round. Klay decides he's going to want Max money - so asks the team to trade him for what they can get, as a favor to them. Offseason deal.

My offer:

Fultz (if he's playing well)
Bayless (warriors can cut)
Best of Sixers/Kings (or LA) pick

For:
Klay (if he agrees to resign for max)

Do you take the deal?

It’s not a bad offer but I don’t think the Warriors would do that because they are in win-now mode this year and the next couple years. That trade obviously gives good value in return for Klay but most of that value(Fultz and the pick) are “future” type assets.

Yeah - I thought about that - ideally you'd want Redick -but we only have Redick under control for 1 yr.

That level of hypothetical for Klay to be traded during this season would be pretty impossible tho. Seems he wants to stay and take a cut and make a legacy anyhow.

[Phase 3]

Hey Guys - Sixers Fan here, I come in peace.

SO - this would have to be a very special situation to happen. Nothing that you guys would like to have happen - but we're talking hypotheticals here anyhow.

Perhaps you guys lose to Houston or the Spurs or something like that...or even the Thunder in an earlier round. Klay decides he's going to want Max money - so asks the team to trade him for what they can get, as a favor to them. Offseason deal.

My offer:

Fultz (if he's playing well)
Bayless (warriors can cut)
Best of Sixers/Kings (or LA) pick

For:
Klay (if he agrees to resign for max)

Do you take the deal?

It’s not a bad offer but I don’t think the Warriors would do that because they are in win-now mode this year and the next couple years. That trade obviously gives good value in return for Klay but most of that value(Fultz and the pick) are “future” type assets.

Yeah - I thought about that - ideally you'd want Redick -but we only have Redick under control for 1 yr.

That level of hypothetical for Klay to be traded during this season would be pretty impossible tho. Seems he wants to stay and take a cut and make a legacy anyhow.

Well, let me say this...I have no clue what the Warriors front office/ownership will do with Klay and/or Draymond when their contracts are up. It really comes down to whether or not ownership will be willing to pay to keep those 2...and it’s tough to answer that question definitively right now. Any trades involving any major core pieces on this roster would likely wait until the offseason though. I would be SHOCKED beyond belief if there was any major trade with this team mid-season. That’s not their style and they wouldn’t want to hurt their chances at a title this year.

[wco81]

Make it Covington and a pick.

[ChuckDurn]

Hey Guys - Sixers Fan here, I come in peace.

SO - this would have to be a very special situation to happen. Nothing that you guys would like to have happen - but we're talking hypotheticals here anyhow.

Perhaps you guys lose to Houston or the Spurs or something like that...or even the Thunder in an earlier round. Klay decides he's going to want Max money - so asks the team to trade him for what they can get, as a favor to them. Offseason deal.

My offer:

Fultz (if he's playing well)
Bayless (warriors can cut)
Best of Sixers/Kings (or LA) pick

For:
Klay (if he agrees to resign for max)

Do you take the deal?

It’s not a bad offer but I don’t think the Warriors would do that because they are in win-now mode this year and the next couple years. That trade obviously gives good value in return for Klay but most of that value(Fultz and the pick) are “future” type assets.

Agreed, it's really unlikely the Warriors would do a "future-based" trade that breaks up the core. To the OP's credit, this is based on a scenario that it happens in the off-season after a Warriors' loss in the playoffs, so maybe the Warriors would be more amenable to move a piece.

If Fultz did show out to be healthy before the end of this year, I'd consider something like Klay for Fultz + Holmes + Bayless (salary purposes) + picks, as follows:
- If Lakers' 2018 pick is conveyed to Philadelphia and is between 6-10, Warriors get the pick
- If Lakers' 2018 pick is not conveyed to Philadelphia in the 6-10 range, Warriors get Philadelphia's 2018 #1 (probably in the 12-16 range), plus the opportunity to do a pick swap in 2019 with Sacramento's 2019 pick. (This will get us a mid-round pick in 2018, as well as allowing the Warriors to probably move up to a top-10 pick in 2019.)

Fultz could be really good, Holmes has already shown to be capable at center and would strengthen a center rotation that would potentially be a little weak after this season, and we'd get a top-10 pick this year, or 2 picks between this year and next.

I wouldn't want to get rid of Klay, but if the front office decided to do so, this is probably a pretty fair way to do so if the desire was to try to get a lot of young assets to extend the run for as long as possible.

[Juannydawkins]

Hey Guys - Sixers Fan here, I come in peace.

SO - this would have to be a very special situation to happen. Nothing that you guys would like to have happen - but we're talking hypotheticals here anyhow.

Perhaps you guys lose to Houston or the Spurs or something like that...or even the Thunder in an earlier round. Klay decides he's going to want Max money - so asks the team to trade him for what they can get, as a favor to them. Offseason deal.

My offer:

Fultz (if he's playing well)
Bayless (warriors can cut)
Best of Sixers/Kings (or LA) pick

For:
Klay (if he agrees to resign for max)

Do you take the deal?

It’s not a bad offer but I don’t think the Warriors would do that because they are in win-now mode this year and the next couple years. That trade obviously gives good value in return for Klay but most of that value(Fultz and the pick) are “future” type assets.

Agreed, it's really unlikely the Warriors would do a "future-based" trade that breaks up the core. To the OP's credit, this is based on a scenario that it happens in the off-season after a Warriors' loss in the playoffs, so maybe the Warriors would be more amenable to move a piece.

If Fultz did show out to be healthy before the end of this year, I'd consider something like Klay for Fultz + Holmes + Bayless (salary purposes) + picks, as follows:
- If Lakers' 2018 pick is conveyed to Philadelphia and is between 6-10, Warriors get the pick
- If Lakers' 2018 pick is not conveyed to Philadelphia in the 6-10 range, Warriors get Philadelphia's 2018 #1 (probably in the 12-16 range), plus the opportunity to do a pick swap in 2019 with Sacramento's 2019 pick. (This will get us a mid-round pick in 2018, as well as allowing the Warriors to probably move up to a top-10 pick in 2019.)

Fultz could be really good, Holmes has already shown to be capable at center and would strengthen a center rotation that would potentially be a little weak after this season, and we'd get a top-10 pick this year, or 2 picks between this year and next.

I wouldn't want to get rid of Klay, but if the front office decided to do so, this is probably a pretty fair way to do so if the desire was to try to get a lot of young assets to extend the run for as long as possible.

I wouldn't want to include the pick swap in that deal - seems a little too sweet to me if this scenario were to happen, if Klay were asking for the trade -

If we make that trade offer w/ out pick swap, then are told they have a better offer on the table and we can confirm that aint bs -- I guess I do it.

And as per earlier trade alteration

Make it Covington and a pick.

.... that one's tough for me. Not untenable, but tough.

[Coxy]

Hey Guys - Sixers Fan here, I come in peace.

SO - this would have to be a very special situation to happen. Nothing that you guys would like to have happen - but we're talking hypotheticals here anyhow.

Perhaps you guys lose to Houston or the Spurs or something like that...or even the Thunder in an earlier round. Klay decides he's going to want Max money - so asks the team to trade him for what they can get, as a favor to them. Offseason deal.

My offer:

Fultz (if he's playing well)
Bayless (warriors can cut)
Best of Sixers/Kings (or LA) pick

For:
Klay (if he agrees to resign for max)

Do you take the deal?

Not interested whatsoever in Fultz + whatever for Klay. If it was Covington ++ and he is s&t to a reasonable deal, then maybe, but I doubt the FO look at it. We have too good a thing going, only money breaks it up, and our team has tonnes of the cashishe in the vault to pay whatever it takes.

[Mylie10]

Klay isn't going anywhere. He already said he'd take a slight discount, and the owner has stated they will do what it takes to keep the band together.

No thanks.

[Juannydawkins]

Hey Guys - Sixers Fan here, I come in peace.

SO - this would have to be a very special situation to happen. Nothing that you guys would like to have happen - but we're talking hypotheticals here anyhow.

Perhaps you guys lose to Houston or the Spurs or something like that...or even the Thunder in an earlier round. Klay decides he's going to want Max money - so asks the team to trade him for what they can get, as a favor to them. Offseason deal.

My offer:

Fultz (if he's playing well)
Bayless (warriors can cut)
Best of Sixers/Kings (or LA) pick

For:
Klay (if he agrees to resign for max)

Do you take the deal?

Not interested whatsoever in Fultz + whatever for Klay. If it was Covington ++ and he is s&t to a reasonable deal, then maybe, but I doubt the FO look at it. We have too good a thing going, only money breaks it up, and our team has tonnes of the cashishe in the vault to pay whatever it takes.

I'm not completely familiar with the CBA - would Covington (who signed an extension this year - renegotiating the last year of his current contract) not be eligible for trade until at least 1 year from when he signed? or is it just until next offseason?

He's on an amazingly team friendly deal, and that's why it'd be so hard to give him up. #2 SF in RPM all year pretty much, just behind Bron. We have no replacement for him.

Not sure why you'd want RoCo anyhow- a 2 guard would be a much better fit. Unless you'd want to trade Iguodala back to us or something. Or unless you're done with KD

I guess y'all could play RoCo at the 2, we could play Klay at the 3 and have fultz at 2...but I think for both teams, that's probably not the best option.

[Coxy]

Hey Guys - Sixers Fan here, I come in peace.

SO - this would have to be a very special situation to happen. Nothing that you guys would like to have happen - but we're talking hypotheticals here anyhow.

Perhaps you guys lose to Houston or the Spurs or something like that...or even the Thunder in an earlier round. Klay decides he's going to want Max money - so asks the team to trade him for what they can get, as a favor to them. Offseason deal.

My offer:

Fultz (if he's playing well)
Bayless (warriors can cut)
Best of Sixers/Kings (or LA) pick

For:
Klay (if he agrees to resign for max)

Do you take the deal?

Not interested whatsoever in Fultz + whatever for Klay. If it was Covington ++ and he is s&t to a reasonable deal, then maybe, but I doubt the FO look at it. We have too good a thing going, only money breaks it up, and our team has tonnes of the cashishe in the vault to pay whatever it takes.

I'm not completely familiar with the CBA - would Covington (who signed an extension this year - renegotiating the last year of his current contract) not be eligible for trade until at least 1 year from when he signed? or is it just until next offseason?

He's on an amazingly team friendly deal, and that's why it'd be so hard to give him up. #2 SF in RPM all year pretty much, just behind Bron. We have no replacement for him.

Not sure why you'd want RoCo anyhow- a 2 guard would be a much better fit. Unless you'd want to trade Iguodala back to us or something. Or unless you're done with KD

I guess y'all could play RoCo at the 2, we could play Klay at the 3 and have fultz at 2...but I think for both teams, that's probably not the best option.

We'd have a far greater use for Covo than we would for Fultz, who isn't even an NBA player is this stage. He could be anything at this point, ranging from capable NBA starter to complete and utter unmitigated disaster bust.

Also, we wouldn't "want" RoCo, but if we were forced to chose because Klay wanted out, then this would be something I would want if we couldn't get our hands on Embiid.

[Juannydawkins]

I may not have been clear enough - the premise was Fultz is playing well by that time, proving he's worth the draft spot.

But shoot. I never considered Embiid trades - but you guys have some untouchables too... Hmmm

Klay / Durant / Bell
Embiid / Covington / Pasecniks

[Coxy]

I may not have been clear enough - the premise was Fultz is playing well by that time, proving he's worth the draft spot.

But shoot. I never considered Embiid trades - but you guys have some untouchables too... Hmmm

Klay / Durant / Bell
Embiid / Covington / Pasecniks

Most I would trade for Embiid is Iggy +/+/+. No way I'm giving up any of the big 4 for Embiid. We are just about the best core of all time, and I'm not breaking it up for anything less than a complete home run amazing long term guaranteed success projected over what we have now. Which makes it difficult, seen as we are projected to compete for the title for the next 3-4 years at least as heavy heavy favourites. Add in Embiids injury troubles, and also the way the game is moving to the way our style dictates with small ball, and I don't see Embiid being the sure fire difference to breaking us up. Even though I think he's an entertaining sort of guy, I'm a bit indifferent to Embiid's personality as well. Not sure he takes it all as seriously as he should, which would be found out immediately in the Warriors culture and locker room. Maybe I'm wrong on that one, but just my current feelings towards the big guy.

[Juannydawkins]

I may not have been clear enough - the premise was Fultz is playing well by that time, proving he's worth the draft spot.

But shoot. I never considered Embiid trades - but you guys have some untouchables too... Hmmm

Klay / Durant / Bell
Embiid / Covington / Pasecniks

Most I would trade for Embiid is Iggy +/+/+. No way I'm giving up any of the big 4 for Embiid. We are just about the best core of all time, and I'm not breaking it up for anything less than a complete home run amazing long term guaranteed success projected over what we have now. Which makes it difficult, seen as we are projected to compete for the title for the next 3-4 years at least as heavy heavy favourites. Add in Embiids injury troubles, and also the way the game is moving to the way our style dictates with small ball, and I don't see Embiid being the sure fire difference to breaking us up. Even though I think he's an entertaining sort of guy, I'm a bit indifferent to Embiid's personality as well. Not sure he takes it all as seriously as he should, which would be found out immediately in the Warriors culture and locker room. Maybe I'm wrong on that one, but just my current feelings towards the big guy.

I put it in green cuz it's sarcastic- I'm 100% positive no one in the league gets Embiid for anything less than : KD, Bron, Curry, MAYBE Giannis.

The reason we'd want Klay over Fultz is to pair him with Embiid and Simmons and become instant contenders (especially if we somehow retained RoCo in this hypothetical deal). You'd play small ball and we'd go large. We're not refined enough to have your number quite yet, but our style of ball does cause you problems - I'm sure you've watched 6er's W's games over the last 2 years.

If we're not trading for a win-now move, we're probably not trading, and we'd just wait and grow our team.

You guys have 4 players that deserve Max or near Max money. Only 1 of them is signed long term. The NBA doesn't have a hard cap- so signing everyone would mean you're spending something like 1.3 billion dollars over the next 5 years in salary and penalties.

I guess that's just a management decision -

But going back to your suggestion - if you're even being serious, the only way we'd trade Embiid is for a franchise player. I would not even give you Covington for Iguodala. Are you being serious or tongue in cheek?

[Coxy]

I may not have been clear enough - the premise was Fultz is playing well by that time, proving he's worth the draft spot.

But shoot. I never considered Embiid trades - but you guys have some untouchables too... Hmmm

Klay / Durant / Bell
Embiid / Covington / Pasecniks

Most I would trade for Embiid is Iggy +/+/+. No way I'm giving up any of the big 4 for Embiid. We are just about the best core of all time, and I'm not breaking it up for anything less than a complete home run amazing long term guaranteed success projected over what we have now. Which makes it difficult, seen as we are projected to compete for the title for the next 3-4 years at least as heavy heavy favourites. Add in Embiids injury troubles, and also the way the game is moving to the way our style dictates with small ball, and I don't see Embiid being the sure fire difference to breaking us up. Even though I think he's an entertaining sort of guy, I'm a bit indifferent to Embiid's personality as well. Not sure he takes it all as seriously as he should, which would be found out immediately in the Warriors culture and locker room. Maybe I'm wrong on that one, but just my current feelings towards the big guy.

I put it in green cuz it's sarcastic- I'm 100% positive no one in the league gets Embiid for anything less than : KD, Bron, Curry, MAYBE Giannis.

The reason we'd want Klay over Fultz is to pair him with Embiid and Simmons and become instant contenders (especially if we somehow retained RoCo in this hypothetical deal). You'd play small ball and we'd go large. We're not refined enough to have your number quite yet, but our style of ball does cause you problems - I'm sure you've watched 6er's W's games over the last 2 years.

If we're not trading for a win-now move, we're probably not trading, and we'd just wait and grow our team.

You guys have 4 players that deserve Max or near Max money. Only 1 of them is signed long term. The NBA doesn't have a hard cap- so signing everyone would mean you're spending something like 1.3 billion dollars over the next 5 years in salary and penalties.

I guess that's just a management decision -

But going back to your suggestion - if you're even being serious, the only way we'd trade Embiid is for a franchise player. I would not even give you Covington for Iguodala. Are you being serious or tongue in cheek?

Of course I'm being serious. In all of this discussion, the Warriors are the champs, the top team, the team with a window for All-time greatness. We aren't breaking up this core for anything less than a sure fire upgrade to the current set-up. I'm not certain that is even possible to be honest, but if it is, then it sure as hell isn't going to be the Warriors overpaying to break up this all-time great team, it will be the other team that needs to break it up. So, if we aren't getting something that is upgrading what we have then we're not doing it. Embiid, doesn't upgrade us enough to break up the core, so I'm not trading any of the big 4 for him, and the most I'm giving up is the best of my next assets, which is beyond a ridiculous deal for Philly to consider, so in the end, both teams don't even get to the discussion table really.

If you want to break up our core, then you're overpaying, not us. If you don't overpay big time, then fine, we move on, continue to be who we are, which is pretty good. I don't think Philly has ANY assets that can break us up, unless 1 of our big 4 wants out. Then it changes the dynamic. However, there is zero reason to think that ownership won't pay through the nose to keep this going, seen as though their 400mill asset is now literally worth billions. They won't be the ones to break up potentially the greatest team of all time that is making them an absolute bucket load because of player contracts. They'll do whatever they need to, and Bob Myers will make sure it all works out.

[Juannydawkins]

Most I would trade for Embiid is Iggy +/+/+. No way I'm giving up any of the big 4 for Embiid. We are just about the best core of all time, and I'm not breaking it up for anything less than a complete home run amazing long term guaranteed success projected over what we have now. Which makes it difficult, seen as we are projected to compete for the title for the next 3-4 years at least as heavy heavy favourites. Add in Embiids injury troubles, and also the way the game is moving to the way our style dictates with small ball, and I don't see Embiid being the sure fire difference to breaking us up. Even though I think he's an entertaining sort of guy, I'm a bit indifferent to Embiid's personality as well. Not sure he takes it all as seriously as he should, which would be found out immediately in the Warriors culture and locker room. Maybe I'm wrong on that one, but just my current feelings towards the big guy.

I put it in green cuz it's sarcastic- I'm 100% positive no one in the league gets Embiid for anything less than : KD, Bron, Curry, MAYBE Giannis.

The reason we'd want Klay over Fultz is to pair him with Embiid and Simmons and become instant contenders (especially if we somehow retained RoCo in this hypothetical deal). You'd play small ball and we'd go large. We're not refined enough to have your number quite yet, but our style of ball does cause you problems - I'm sure you've watched 6er's W's games over the last 2 years.

If we're not trading for a win-now move, we're probably not trading, and we'd just wait and grow our team.

You guys have 4 players that deserve Max or near Max money. Only 1 of them is signed long term. The NBA doesn't have a hard cap- so signing everyone would mean you're spending something like 1.3 billion dollars over the next 5 years in salary and penalties.

I guess that's just a management decision -

But going back to your suggestion - if you're even being serious, the only way we'd trade Embiid is for a franchise player. I would not even give you Covington for Iguodala. Are you being serious or tongue in cheek?

Of course I'm being serious. In all of this discussion, the Warriors are the champs, the top team, the team with a window for All-time greatness. We aren't breaking up this core for anything less than a sure fire upgrade to the current set-up. I'm not certain that is even possible to be honest, but if it is, then it sure as hell isn't going to be the Warriors overpaying to break up this all-time great team, it will be the other team that needs to break it up. So, if we aren't getting something that is upgrading what we have then we're not doing it. Embiid, doesn't upgrade us enough to break up the core, so I'm not trading any of the big 4 for him, and the most I'm giving up is the best of my next assets, which is beyond a ridiculous deal for Philly to consider, so in the end, both teams don't even get to the discussion table really.

If you want to break up our core, then you're overpaying, not us. If you don't overpay big time, then fine, we move on, continue to be who we are, which is pretty good. I don't think Philly has ANY assets that can break us up, unless 1 of our big 4 wants out. Then it changes the dynamic. However, there is zero reason to think that ownership won't pay through the nose to keep this going, seen as though their 400mill asset is now literally worth billions. They won't be the ones to break up potentially the greatest team of all time that is making them an absolute bucket load because of player contracts. They'll do whatever they need to, and Bob Myers will make sure it all works out.

Anyway - Klay may be eligible for Supermax after this season. This scenario was always a certain hypothetical - where Klay was asking for a trade so he can make that 200m - giving the Warriors a chance to get what they could for him. Granted Lacob may just say f' it and have a 265M a year payroll (with luxury tax) - at that point everything is moot and we'll just see some unprecedented ****.

Sixers just hold tight and develop what we have and hope to see you in the finals soon.

[Juannydawkins]

Oops, I forgot to factor in all of the other players on your team besides the max/supermax guys. searched your forum and found the more accurate numbers

If we give Dray the SuperMax, McCaw an MLE, and just extend everyone else at their current salaries, which is really an unreasonably conservative way to imagine keeping our "non-star" quality as high as it is, by 2021-22, the total team salary is $207 million, the luxury tax bill is $378 million, and thus the total payroll is $497 million.

[Coxy]

I put it in green cuz it's sarcastic- I'm 100% positive no one in the league gets Embiid for anything less than : KD, Bron, Curry, MAYBE Giannis.

The reason we'd want Klay over Fultz is to pair him with Embiid and Simmons and become instant contenders (especially if we somehow retained RoCo in this hypothetical deal). You'd play small ball and we'd go large. We're not refined enough to have your number quite yet, but our style of ball does cause you problems - I'm sure you've watched 6er's W's games over the last 2 years.

If we're not trading for a win-now move, we're probably not trading, and we'd just wait and grow our team.

You guys have 4 players that deserve Max or near Max money. Only 1 of them is signed long term. The NBA doesn't have a hard cap- so signing everyone would mean you're spending something like 1.3 billion dollars over the next 5 years in salary and penalties.

I guess that's just a management decision -

But going back to your suggestion - if you're even being serious, the only way we'd trade Embiid is for a franchise player. I would not even give you Covington for Iguodala. Are you being serious or tongue in cheek?

Of course I'm being serious. In all of this discussion, the Warriors are the champs, the top team, the team with a window for All-time greatness. We aren't breaking up this core for anything less than a sure fire upgrade to the current set-up. I'm not certain that is even possible to be honest, but if it is, then it sure as hell isn't going to be the Warriors overpaying to break up this all-time great team, it will be the other team that needs to break it up. So, if we aren't getting something that is upgrading what we have then we're not doing it. Embiid, doesn't upgrade us enough to break up the core, so I'm not trading any of the big 4 for him, and the most I'm giving up is the best of my next assets, which is beyond a ridiculous deal for Philly to consider, so in the end, both teams don't even get to the discussion table really.

If you want to break up our core, then you're overpaying, not us. If you don't overpay big time, then fine, we move on, continue to be who we are, which is pretty good. I don't think Philly has ANY assets that can break us up, unless 1 of our big 4 wants out. Then it changes the dynamic. However, there is zero reason to think that ownership won't pay through the nose to keep this going, seen as though their 400mill asset is now literally worth billions. They won't be the ones to break up potentially the greatest team of all time that is making them an absolute bucket load because of player contracts. They'll do whatever they need to, and Bob Myers will make sure it all works out.

Anyway - Klay may be eligible for Supermax after this season. This scenario was always a certain hypothetical - where Klay was asking for a trade so he can make that 200m - giving the Warriors a chance to get what they could for him. Granted Lacob may just say f' it and have a 265M a year payroll (with luxury tax) - at that point everything is moot and we'll just see some unprecedented ****.

Sixers just hold tight and develop what we have and hope to see you in the finals soon.

If Klay wanted out or they came to the conclusion not to pay the super max to him, then the Warriors would look for a better package than what Philly would offer. We could potentially look at acquiring more fitting, win now players in trade. The Pels might be willing to move Ant Davis for instance, or the Warriors might go shorter window but high upside Marc Gasol. Maybe a package with the Nuggets of Garry Harris, Plumlee and Barton might be worth looking at. Would PHX move D Booker? Worth a look.

Anyways, nice chatting.

[Juannydawkins]

Of course I'm being serious. In all of this discussion, the Warriors are the champs, the top team, the team with a window for All-time greatness. We aren't breaking up this core for anything less than a sure fire upgrade to the current set-up. I'm not certain that is even possible to be honest, but if it is, then it sure as hell isn't going to be the Warriors overpaying to break up this all-time great team, it will be the other team that needs to break it up. So, if we aren't getting something that is upgrading what we have then we're not doing it. Embiid, doesn't upgrade us enough to break up the core, so I'm not trading any of the big 4 for him, and the most I'm giving up is the best of my next assets, which is beyond a ridiculous deal for Philly to consider, so in the end, both teams don't even get to the discussion table really.

If you want to break up our core, then you're overpaying, not us. If you don't overpay big time, then fine, we move on, continue to be who we are, which is pretty good. I don't think Philly has ANY assets that can break us up, unless 1 of our big 4 wants out. Then it changes the dynamic. However, there is zero reason to think that ownership won't pay through the nose to keep this going, seen as though their 400mill asset is now literally worth billions. They won't be the ones to break up potentially the greatest team of all time that is making them an absolute bucket load because of player contracts. They'll do whatever they need to, and Bob Myers will make sure it all works out.

Anyway - Klay may be eligible for Supermax after this season. This scenario was always a certain hypothetical - where Klay was asking for a trade so he can make that 200m - giving the Warriors a chance to get what they could for him. Granted Lacob may just say f' it and have a 265M a year payroll (with luxury tax) - at that point everything is moot and we'll just see some unprecedented ****.

Sixers just hold tight and develop what we have and hope to see you in the finals soon.

If Klay wanted out or they came to the conclusion not to pay the super max to him, then the Warriors would look for a better package than what Philly would offer. We could potentially look at acquiring more fitting, win now players in trade. The Pels might be willing to move Ant Davis for instance, or the Warriors might go shorter window but high upside Marc Gasol. Maybe a package with the Nuggets of Garry Harris, Plumlee and Barton might be worth looking at. Would PHX move D Booker? Worth a look.

Anyways, nice chatting.

If you could get a dominant center for him, why not - Embiid's the only reason I feel like the Sixers may one day have a cheat code against you guys anyhow

Anyhow, was a fun exercise. From all proposals I heard back from you guys -

I didn't hate this as a working base:

If Fultz did show out to be healthy before the end of this year, I'd consider something like Klay for Fultz + Holmes + Bayless (salary purposes) + picks, as follows:
- If Lakers' 2018 pick is conveyed to Philadelphia and is between 6-10, Warriors get the pick
- If Lakers' 2018 pick is not conveyed to Philadelphia in the 6-10 range, Warriors get Philadelphia's 2018 #1 (probably in the 12-16 range), plus the opportunity to do a pick swap in 2019 with Sacramento's 2019 pick. (This will get us a mid-round pick in 2018, as well as allowing the Warriors to probably move up to a top-10 pick in 2019.)

Would take that if we got Bell back as well. Or if you just get rid of the swap or Holmes.