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Pistons Pursued Trade For Evan Fournier 

Post#21 » by Max Power » Tue Jan 9, 2018 9:17 pm

To me trading Fournier for Jackson is a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) move. Jackson’s had one too many injuries, isn’t effective and was a locker room problem. (KD and Westbrook hated him in OKC, along with everyone else). Yes, we’d still get a high draft pick with him, and I’m not a fan of Fournier but he is a better player and a more valuable trade piece. We need either a young player or draft pick for him. If Stan wants him, take Vuc back with Fournier and send us Andre Drummond back.


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Re: Pistons Pursued Trade For Evan Fournier 

Post#22 » by JF5 » Tue Jan 9, 2018 10:54 pm

I'm not interested in any trade with Detroit. They've got nothing of value that would interest me outside of Harris and even then you already have Gordon and Issac.

BTW someone mentioned this team getting a new PG in the offseason. I wouldn't be surprised if they went hard after Isiah Thomas with max money.
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Re: Pistons Pursued Trade For Evan Fournier 

Post#23 » by SOUL » Tue Jan 9, 2018 11:09 pm

JF5 wrote:BTW someone mentioned this team getting a new PG in the offseason. I wouldn't be surprised if they went hard after Isiah Thomas with max money.


I was thinking this yesterday. Not sure how I would feel about it, just thought it was a feasible move.
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Re: Pistons Pursued Trade For Evan Fournier 

Post#24 » by Def Swami » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:28 am

I want no part of Reggie Jackson.
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Re: Pistons Pursued Trade For Evan Fournier 

Post#25 » by thelead » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:32 am

SOUL wrote:
JF5 wrote:BTW someone mentioned this team getting a new PG in the offseason. I wouldn't be surprised if they went hard after Isiah Thomas with max money.


I was thinking this yesterday. Not sure how I would feel about it, just thought it was a feasible move.

Do we have the cap space to throw a max at someone? Kemba and IT would definitely be targets if we do.
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Re: Pistons Pursued Trade For Evan Fournier 

Post#26 » by drsd » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:37 am

For the pro-tankers, the benefits of Jackson are:
1) short term the team will be terrible ensuring a high draft pick
2) This forces Orlando to move Payton
3) Jackson would be a mentor to Trae Young, ensuring the rookie would not be over his head.

Really this trade would be about the 2020/21 season, which is quite sad really


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Post#27 » by Bensational » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:34 am

I wonder what the intended backcourt would look like in the minds of management if we traded Fournier?

Are we clearing room for Simmons to become the starting SG? Or making room for Hezonja? What happens when Ross comes back? And are we looking to trade for another SG in return?

Also, I'm still curious why Fournier ends up as the odd man out. I've heard people say it's because he has value, but considering this has been touted as an 'evaluation' season, and WeHam have mentioned several times they want to see how the players fit and work together, for Fournier to be the first name to come up it suggests that maybe they don't think he fits with the rest of the team. Which might add some fuel to the whole 'conflict' narrative.
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Post#28 » by tiderulz » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:46 pm

drsd wrote:For the pro-tankers, the benefits of Jackson are:
1) short term the team will be terrible ensuring a high draft pick
2) This forces Orlando to move Payton
3) Jackson would be a mentor to Trae Young, ensuring the rookie would not be over his head.

Really this trade would be about the 2020/21 season, which is quite sad really


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does that really sound like a good idea?
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Post#29 » by tiderulz » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:47 pm

Bensational wrote:I wonder what the intended backcourt would look like in the minds of management if we traded Fournier?

Are we clearing room for Simmons to become the starting SG? Or making room for Hezonja? What happens when Ross comes back? And are we looking to trade for another SG in return?

Also, I'm still curious why Fournier ends up as the odd man out. I've heard people say it's because he has value, but considering this has been touted as an 'evaluation' season, and WeHam have mentioned several times they want to see how the players fit and work together, for Fournier to be the first name to come up it suggests that maybe they don't think he fits with the rest of the team. Which might add some fuel to the whole 'conflict' narrative.


part of it from the fan base is because he hasnt become better than a #3 scorer. Harris was always mentioned to move to, because he didnt develop into a superstar. On a team starved for talent, its surprising that the fan base wants to jettison anyone that doesnt become a star.
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Re: Pistons Pursued Trade For Evan Fournier 

Post#30 » by drsd » Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:09 pm

tiderulz wrote:does that really sound like a good idea?


Not starting a rookie PG is always a good idea. Drafting Young means that Payton must be moved. And then what: start Augustin?


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Re: Pistons Pursued Trade For Evan Fournier 

Post#31 » by fendilim » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:04 pm

Bensational wrote:I wonder what the intended backcourt would look like in the minds of management if we traded Fournier?

Are we clearing room for Simmons to become the starting SG? Or making room for Hezonja? What happens when Ross comes back? And are we looking to trade for another SG in return?

Also, I'm still curious why Fournier ends up as the odd man out. I've heard people say it's because he has value, but considering this has been touted as an 'evaluation' season, and WeHam have mentioned several times they want to see how the players fit and work together, for Fournier to be the first name to come up it suggests that maybe they don't think he fits with the rest of the team. Which might add some fuel to the whole 'conflict' narrative.

Evaluation season is a more subtle way of saying tanking/experimenting.

Also, new management tend to bring in their own set of players. So I would not be surprised if AG is moved as well.
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Re: Pistons Pursued Trade For Evan Fournier 

Post#32 » by tiderulz » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:05 pm

drsd wrote:
tiderulz wrote:does that really sound like a good idea?


Not starting a rookie PG is always a good idea. Drafting Young means that Payton must be moved. And then what: start Augustin?


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just not sure i would want Reggie Jackson mentoring anyone
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Re: Pistons Pursued Trade For Evan Fournier 

Post#33 » by OrlandoDream » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:33 pm

I dont see DET as a good trade partner this year. I would honestly be calling the Bucks who need a big man and wing scoring. Ship them both Evan and Vuc for a package of Brogdon, their 2018 pick, and filler. Maker is interesting too.

Also, RJ I dont want anywhere near the young guys.
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Post#34 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:51 pm

I’m not sure why everyone getting riled up when the article clearly stated that the Pistons were the ones interested in Fournier not the other way around. I’m sure WeHam hung up the phone before SVG could pronounce the second letter from Reggie.

Public interest is really good, let it build Fourniers value higher and possibly start a bidding war.

I have full confidence after the Tobias trade and how the media/fans reacted that WeHam are treading very very carefully dealing with Detroit.

But just for conversation sake the ONLY trade I consider which makes sense on both sides is the following.

Avery Bradley (Expiring, but good player which WeHam has been rumored in looking for)

Jon Leuer (Negative Contract/Salary Filler)

Luke Kennard

FRP (Protected 1-20 then 2 SRP)

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Fournier
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Re: Pistons Pursued Trade For Evan Fournier 

Post#35 » by Furinkazan » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:51 pm

Well I guess it could be debatable if Stan took both our 17 mil contracts wich wont happen but since this thread exist ...
I dont get what his fetish is if he wants Magic team so badly he should come and coach here instead of getting all our players.

anyway
Evan+Biz+Payton+Afflalo(or Mo) for the corpse of Jackson+Galloway+Marjanovic+Ellenson+Kennard+their 1st round 2018 pick.

det would look like this
Smith/Payton
Bradley/Bullock/Afflalo
Fournier/Johnson/
Harris/Leuer/Tolliver
Drummond/Biz

still pretty balanced but propably highest salary team of all time too? hasnt checked but seems like it.
He could made it to the 2nd round with them imo but that would be it I guess
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Re: Pistons Pursued Trade For Evan Fournier 

Post#36 » by drsd » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:15 pm

tiderulz wrote:does that really sound like a good idea?


Apparently GM Hammond and President Weltman do not think so.


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Re: Pistons Pursued Trade For Evan Fournier 

Post#37 » by drsd » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:18 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:I’m sure WeHam hung up the phone before SVG could pronounce the second letter from Reggie.


I love this!

And it gets to a point, is it GM Hammond or President Weltman making staff choices? I do not know. Weltman is very active/dominant over GM Hammond to the point I am not sure how much true power Hammond has.

So, WeHam it is!

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