Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 4

[darealjuice]

Might as well call this place RealDraft because that's all you guys talk about.

Or we can call it RealLyImpatient, because that's what acting like we should go all in on this team right now is

Or ReallyOverratingDraftPicks.

Or ReallyOverestimatingHowGoodWeAre

[bwgood77]

Or we can call it RealLyImpatient, because that's what acting like we should go all in on this team right now is

Or ReallyOverratingDraftPicks.

Or ReallyOverestimatingHowGoodWeAre

It typically happens after a win, particularly if it came against a pretty good team. But yeah, for me, I really like our players and won't give up on them and want to trade them a year or two after we drafted them. If we go on a real winning streak or something and are like 2 games out of the 8 seed around the deadline, sure, I wouldn't mind trading a pick for the right player to add. I'm sure McD wouldn't either. But when we are closer to the worst record in the league than the 8th seed, I don't want to necessarily make a move. We are also 2.5 games from the worst record in the west and 5.5 games out of the playoffs, so it's not like we are currently on the cusp.

If we can beat Houston with a lot of rest and without Harden and go on a winning streak here over the next couple of weeks, maybe Gambo is right, and we should go all in. I imagine we may hit some bumps along the way though.

[darealjuice]

It typically happens after a win, particularly if it came against a pretty good team. But yeah, for me, I really like our players and won't give up on them and want to trade them a year or two after we drafted them. If we go on a real winning streak or something and are like 2 games out of the 8 seed around the deadline, sure, I wouldn't mind trading a pick for the right player to add. I'm sure McD wouldn't either. But when we are closer to the worst record in the league than the 8th seed, I don't want to necessarily make a move. We are also 2.5 games from the worst record in the west and 5.5 games out of the playoffs, so it's not like we are currently on the cusp.

If we can beat Houston with a lot of rest and without Harden and go on a winning streak here over the next couple of weeks, maybe Gambo is right, and we should go all in. I imagine we may hit some bumps along the way though.

I just don't get the point of going all in now.

If we go all in now and get someone like Kemba for at least our pick, Miami's pick, and maybe a young player, then we have to go 25-15 from now to get to .500 and even have a shot at make the playoffs. Only the top 7 teams even have 25 wins at this point in the season, and you'd be hard pressed to convince anyone that someone like Kemba takes us from bottom 8 to top 8 in record, especially when you consider the time it can take for high usage players to gel into a new system. Not to mention that our second half includes 4 games against the Warriors, 3 games against the Rockets, and 2 games against the Cavs, with almost 75% of our remaining games being against teams in the playoffs or right on the border of being in the playoffs, so wins aren't exactly going to be easy to come by for us.

What does selling out now for a pipe dream at the this year's playoffs gets us? Why not be patient, play out this season and let young guys develop, and evaluate what we can do with our assets when they've solidified their value this offseason? Regardless of how you feel about drafting players, it's undeniable that higher draft picks are more valuable in trades, and our pick won't be valued as the likely top 8 pick that it is if we're trading for a star in an attempt to boost our record mid-season.

[Mulhollanddrive]

What is going all-in though?

[darealjuice]

What is going all-in though?

Not even much. If we make a mid-season "All-In" trade, then at best all of our available picks are valued at late lottery. What does our pick (12-18), Miami's 2018 pick (15-25 and trending up of late), Milwaukee's pick (likely 15+ in 2019), Miami's 2021 (unprotected at who knows where) and prospects of Quese/Bender/potentially Jackson's current level get us? Maybe 1 star player, or a fringe All Star and a solid starter?

[jredsaz]

It typically happens after a win, particularly if it came against a pretty good team. But yeah, for me, I really like our players and won't give up on them and want to trade them a year or two after we drafted them. If we go on a real winning streak or something and are like 2 games out of the 8 seed around the deadline, sure, I wouldn't mind trading a pick for the right player to add. I'm sure McD wouldn't either. But when we are closer to the worst record in the league than the 8th seed, I don't want to necessarily make a move. We are also 2.5 games from the worst record in the west and 5.5 games out of the playoffs, so it's not like we are currently on the cusp.

If we can beat Houston with a lot of rest and without Harden and go on a winning streak here over the next couple of weeks, maybe Gambo is right, and we should go all in. I imagine we may hit some bumps along the way though.

I just don't get the point of going all in now.

If we go all in now and get someone like Kemba for at least our pick, Miami's pick, and maybe a young player, then we have to go 25-15 from now to get to .500 and even have a shot at make the playoffs. Only the top 7 teams even have 25 wins at this point in the season, and you'd be hard pressed to convince anyone that someone like Kemba takes us from bottom 8 to top 8 in record, especially when you consider the time it can take for high usage players to gel into a new system. Not to mention that our second half includes 4 games against the Warriors, 3 games against the Rockets, and 2 games against the Cavs, with almost 75% of our remaining games being against teams in the playoffs or right on the border of being in the playoffs, so wins aren't exactly going to be easy to come by for us.

What does selling out now for a pipe dream at the this year's playoffs gets us? Why not be patient, play out this season and let young guys develop, and evaluate what we can do with our assets when they've solidified their value this offseason? Regardless of how you feel about drafting players, it's undeniable that higher draft picks are more valuable in trades, and our pick won't be valued as the likely top 8 pick that it is if we're trading for a star in an attempt to boost our record mid-season.

I think there is a difference between going all in and using a pick or two and Monroe to get a good player.

[lilfishi22]

What Gambo said is premature. We're literally almost as close to a playoff spot (5.5 games behind) as the bottom of the heap (5 games ahead). If we're more like 3 games out of a playoff spot and 7+ games from the bottom of the league, then I'd try and make a push. But right now, it's better to wait and see if this squad can find some consistency. But right now, I think it's too early to proclaim we're too good to be bad.

[bwgood77]

It typically happens after a win, particularly if it came against a pretty good team. But yeah, for me, I really like our players and won't give up on them and want to trade them a year or two after we drafted them. If we go on a real winning streak or something and are like 2 games out of the 8 seed around the deadline, sure, I wouldn't mind trading a pick for the right player to add. I'm sure McD wouldn't either. But when we are closer to the worst record in the league than the 8th seed, I don't want to necessarily make a move. We are also 2.5 games from the worst record in the west and 5.5 games out of the playoffs, so it's not like we are currently on the cusp.

If we can beat Houston with a lot of rest and without Harden and go on a winning streak here over the next couple of weeks, maybe Gambo is right, and we should go all in. I imagine we may hit some bumps along the way though.

I just don't get the point of going all in now.

If we go all in now and get someone like Kemba for at least our pick, Miami's pick, and maybe a young player, then we have to go 25-15 from now to get to .500 and even have a shot at make the playoffs. Only the top 7 teams even have 25 wins at this point in the season, and you'd be hard pressed to convince anyone that someone like Kemba takes us from bottom 8 to top 8 in record, especially when you consider the time it can take for high usage players to gel into a new system. Not to mention that our second half includes 4 games against the Warriors, 3 games against the Rockets, and 2 games against the Cavs, with almost 75% of our remaining games being against teams in the playoffs or right on the border of being in the playoffs, so wins aren't exactly going to be easy to come by for us.

What does selling out now for a pipe dream at the this year's playoffs gets us? Why not be patient, play out this season and let young guys develop, and evaluate what we can do with our assets when they've solidified their value this offseason? Regardless of how you feel about drafting players, it's undeniable that higher draft picks are more valuable in trades, and our pick won't be valued as the likely top 8 pick that it is if we're trading for a star in an attempt to boost our record mid-season.

I agree with you. I don't think we are on the cusp and don't expect us to be on a winning streak and on the cusp of the 8th seed given our schedule and how we have struggled and barely beat even the very worst teams, sometimes with crazy comebacks. We do catch a good team off guard on occasion and it's fun and nice to see our young players play well and gain confidence but it's not something I expect to do often. My point was that if I really thought the team was a fringe playoff team, that might be when you want to make a move. We are not currently a fringe playoff team being more than twice as far from the western 8th seed than the west's worst team, that being before we hit the tough part of our schedule.

I think the best course is to let the young guys keep developing, use our picks wisely and let the team grow. I don't think adding one piece does much for us. It might make us a little better but the core of our team simply won't be ready to really compete in the playoffs for a couple of years. It might be nice to make it next year and get a taste of it, but I'd rather do it organically for the most part. I don't mind adding a piece this summer if it makes sense, since we have cap space, like Avery Bradley if they think it's best to use the cap space this summer, but would rather not deplete our assets since we are not likely going anywhere anyway and we need to let our young guys play as much as possible.

[darealjuice]

I just don't get the point of going all in now.

If we go all in now and get someone like Kemba for at least our pick, Miami's pick, and maybe a young player, then we have to go 25-15 from now to get to .500 and even have a shot at make the playoffs. Only the top 7 teams even have 25 wins at this point in the season, and you'd be hard pressed to convince anyone that someone like Kemba takes us from bottom 8 to top 8 in record, especially when you consider the time it can take for high usage players to gel into a new system. Not to mention that our second half includes 4 games against the Warriors, 3 games against the Rockets, and 2 games against the Cavs, with almost 75% of our remaining games being against teams in the playoffs or right on the border of being in the playoffs, so wins aren't exactly going to be easy to come by for us.

What does selling out now for a pipe dream at the this year's playoffs gets us? Why not be patient, play out this season and let young guys develop, and evaluate what we can do with our assets when they've solidified their value this offseason? Regardless of how you feel about drafting players, it's undeniable that higher draft picks are more valuable in trades, and our pick won't be valued as the likely top 8 pick that it is if we're trading for a star in an attempt to boost our record mid-season.

I think there is a difference between going all in and using a pick or two and Monroe to get a good player.

Sure there is, but I'm talking with a guy who said "Gambo is right" for saying this team is too good for a top 8 pick and should "go for the playoffs."

I don't even think it's realistic to trade a pick or 2 and Monroe for a good player to be honest. The only available players I can think of for that price that make sense are guys like George Hill and Tyreke Evans. Neither should be seen as trade options for our pick and neither takes us to the playoffs, so I don't see the point in using an asset on them now.

[Mulhollanddrive]

It seems like we're going to acquire a starting PG one way or another by July.

Draft - Doncic, Young, Sexton
Trade - Dinwiddie, Walker, Clarkson, Evans, Brogdon, Fultz, McConnell, Rubio
FA - Schroder, Paul, Rondo, Payton

[bwgood77]

What is going all-in though?

Not even much. If we make a mid-season "All-In" trade, then at best all of our available picks are valued at late lottery. What does our pick (12-18), Miami's 2018 pick (15-25 and trending up of late), Milwaukee's pick (likely 15+ in 2019), Miami's 2021 (unprotected at who knows where) and prospects of Quese/Bender/potentially Jackson's current level get us? Maybe 1 star player, or a fringe All Star and a solid starter?

I shouldn't have used "all in". I wouldn't trade a core piece or any unprotected first round pick unless it was some sort of absolute no brainer which won't happen.

[jredsaz]

I just don't get the point of going all in now.

If we go all in now and get someone like Kemba for at least our pick, Miami's pick, and maybe a young player, then we have to go 25-15 from now to get to .500 and even have a shot at make the playoffs. Only the top 7 teams even have 25 wins at this point in the season, and you'd be hard pressed to convince anyone that someone like Kemba takes us from bottom 8 to top 8 in record, especially when you consider the time it can take for high usage players to gel into a new system. Not to mention that our second half includes 4 games against the Warriors, 3 games against the Rockets, and 2 games against the Cavs, with almost 75% of our remaining games being against teams in the playoffs or right on the border of being in the playoffs, so wins aren't exactly going to be easy to come by for us.

What does selling out now for a pipe dream at the this year's playoffs gets us? Why not be patient, play out this season and let young guys develop, and evaluate what we can do with our assets when they've solidified their value this offseason? Regardless of how you feel about drafting players, it's undeniable that higher draft picks are more valuable in trades, and our pick won't be valued as the likely top 8 pick that it is if we're trading for a star in an attempt to boost our record mid-season.

I think there is a difference between going all in and using a pick or two and Monroe to get a good player.

Sure there is, but I'm talking with a guy who said "Gambo is right" for saying this team is too good for a top 8 pick and should "go for the playoffs."

I don't even think it's realistic to trade a pick or 2 and Monroe for a good player to be honest. The only available players I can think of for that price that make sense are guys like George Hill and Tyreke Evans. Neither should be seen as trade options for our pick and neither takes us to the playoffs, so I don't see the point in using an asset on them now.

Doubt Hill or Evans cost a first to acquire. If there isn't a deal to make before the deadline then don't make one. In the end Suns are 7 games back in the loss column and that's a long way back. But picks are highly valued, probably overly valued in many NBA cities. A team like the Suns, with a lot of cost controlled young talent already on the roster, should look to take advantage of that if at all possible.

[darealjuice]

Doubt Hill or Evans cost a first to acquire. If there isn't a deal to make before the deadline then don't make one. In the end Suns are 7 games back in the loss column and that's a long way back. But picks are highly valued, probably overly valued in many NBA cities. A team like the Suns, with a lot of cost controlled young talent already on the roster, should look to take advantage of that if at all possible.

Yeah you're right, I'm sure they'd be available for our second rounder and matching salaries by the deadline if their teams are keen to get rid of them. I guess you could sell me on something like that, but I still don't see them as guys that take us to the playoffs this year, so in my eyes all it does is de-value our potentially high pick and give us a very short-term solution at point guard.

[Frank Lee]

It typically happens after a win, particularly if it came against a pretty good team. But yeah, for me, I really like our players and won't give up on them and want to trade them a year or two after we drafted them. If we go on a real winning streak or something and are like 2 games out of the 8 seed around the deadline, sure, I wouldn't mind trading a pick for the right player to add. I'm sure McD wouldn't either. But when we are closer to the worst record in the league than the 8th seed, I don't want to necessarily make a move. We are also 2.5 games from the worst record in the west and 5.5 games out of the playoffs, so it's not like we are currently on the cusp.

If we can beat Houston with a lot of rest and without Harden and go on a winning streak here over the next couple of weeks, maybe Gambo is right, and we should go all in. I imagine we may hit some bumps along the way though.

I just don't get the point of going all in now.

If we go all in now and get someone like Kemba for at least our pick, Miami's pick, and maybe a young player, then we have to go 25-15 from now to get to .500 and even have a shot at make the playoffs. Only the top 7 teams even have 25 wins at this point in the season, and you'd be hard pressed to convince anyone that someone like Kemba takes us from bottom 8 to top 8 in record, especially when you consider the time it can take for high usage players to gel into a new system. Not to mention that our second half includes 4 games against the Warriors, 3 games against the Rockets, and 2 games against the Cavs, with almost 75% of our remaining games being against teams in the playoffs or right on the border of being in the playoffs, so wins aren't exactly going to be easy to come by for us.

What does selling out now for a pipe dream at the this year's playoffs gets us? Why not be patient, play out this season and let young guys develop, and evaluate what we can do with our assets when they've solidified their value this offseason? Regardless of how you feel about drafting players, it's undeniable that higher draft picks are more valuable in trades, and our pick won't be valued as the likely top 8 pick that it is if we're trading for a star in an attempt to boost our record mid-season.

I agree with you. I don't think we are on the cusp and don't expect us to be on a winning streak and on the cusp of the 8th seed given our schedule and how we have struggled and barely beat even the very worst teams, sometimes with crazy comebacks. We do catch a good team off guard on occasion and it's fun and nice to see our young players play well and gain confidence but it's not something I expect to do often. My point was that if I really thought the team was a fringe playoff team, that might be when you want to make a move. We are not currently a fringe playoff team being more than twice as far from the western 8th seed than the west's worst team, that being before we hit the tough part of our schedule.

I think the best course is to let the young guys keep developing, use our picks wisely and let the team grow. I don't think adding one piece does much for us. It might make us a little better but the core of our team simply won't be ready to really compete in the playoffs for a couple of years. It might be nice to make it next year and get a taste of it, but I'd rather do it organically for the most part. I don't mind adding a piece this summer if it makes sense, since we have cap space, like Avery Bradley if they think it's best to use the cap space this summer, but would rather not deplete our assets since we are not likely going anywhere anyway and we need to let our young guys play as much as possible.

You go ahead and let F-n Ulis develope. Jesus.... you guys make it sound like adding a GD real pg is going to throw this team backwards.

What are you afraid of? Losing 4-1 in the playoffs ?

Christ, I’ll drop down 5-6 picks in the draft to see that.... oh... and can’t you consider that as developing?

F-n tanker mentality around here. I can see not wanting to break up this so called core, but wtf? We have enough damn draft picks. Face it, you are not going to swap an 8-9 and a 16-17 for a top 5.

Go out and get a PG! Now. This team will develop better and quicker when you eliminate that glaring hole.

The love affair with drafting is blinding. Raising AZ couldn’t have said it better.

[darealjuice]

You go ahead and let F-n Ulis develope. Jesus.... you guys make it sound like adding a GD real pg is going to throw this team backwards.

What are you afraid of? Losing 4-1 in the playoffs ?

Christ, I’ll drop down 5-6 picks in the draft to see that.... oh... and can’t you consider that as developing?

F-n tanker mentality around here. I can see not wanting to break up this so called core, but wtf? We have enough damn draft picks. Face it, you are not going to swap an 8-9 and a 16-17 for a top 5.

Go out and get a PG! Now. This team will develop better and quicker when you eliminate that glaring hole.

The love affair with drafting is blinding. Raising AZ couldn’t have said it better.

Yeah I'm not talking about Ulis. I'm talking about giving Booker more time at the point and creating more minutes for Jackson, Bender, Chriss, and Reed when he's back, and trying to get wins on THEIR back like we have been doing. Thanks for putting words in my mouth though, especially when the whole basis of your argument against me is made up. It makes it really easy for me to discredit. Dropping 5-6 picks because we picked up an old point guard isn't developing our players by the way lol, developing them would be getting those wins on their back.

I like how you say I'm afraid of losing 4-1 in the playoffs though lol that would be BEST CASE SCENARIO if we did what you want. What about the actually realistic scenario where we just gave up a first round pick for an aging stop gap, moved ourselves out of the top 10, and only won an extra 5 games on the season (and that's being generous)? Now instead of being able to draft/trade the top 5-8 pick this season that we'll likely have, we're left with a pick in the 11-14 range that isn't nearly as valuable in trades and doesn't give us OUR guy at our pick.

It's weird seeing a guy who is as incessantly negative as you act like this team is suddenly ready to take the next step. This isn't even about drafting, it's about maximizing the value of your assets instead of wasting assets and playing time on short-term options that get you the 8th seed AT VERY BEST.

[jredsaz]

Doubt Hill or Evans cost a first to acquire. If there isn't a deal to make before the deadline then don't make one. In the end Suns are 7 games back in the loss column and that's a long way back. But picks are highly valued, probably overly valued in many NBA cities. A team like the Suns, with a lot of cost controlled young talent already on the roster, should look to take advantage of that if at all possible.

Yeah you're right, I'm sure they'd be available for our second rounder and matching salaries by the deadline if their teams are keen to get rid of them. I guess you could sell me on something like that, but I still don't see them as guys that take us to the playoffs this year, so in my eyes all it does is de-value our potentially high pick and give us a very short-term solution at point guard.

I may take Reke. Reke wouldnt have bird rights so the benefit is limited. Wouldn't take Hill.

[bwgood77]

I just don't get the point of going all in now.

If we go all in now and get someone like Kemba for at least our pick, Miami's pick, and maybe a young player, then we have to go 25-15 from now to get to .500 and even have a shot at make the playoffs. Only the top 7 teams even have 25 wins at this point in the season, and you'd be hard pressed to convince anyone that someone like Kemba takes us from bottom 8 to top 8 in record, especially when you consider the time it can take for high usage players to gel into a new system. Not to mention that our second half includes 4 games against the Warriors, 3 games against the Rockets, and 2 games against the Cavs, with almost 75% of our remaining games being against teams in the playoffs or right on the border of being in the playoffs, so wins aren't exactly going to be easy to come by for us.

What does selling out now for a pipe dream at the this year's playoffs gets us? Why not be patient, play out this season and let young guys develop, and evaluate what we can do with our assets when they've solidified their value this offseason? Regardless of how you feel about drafting players, it's undeniable that higher draft picks are more valuable in trades, and our pick won't be valued as the likely top 8 pick that it is if we're trading for a star in an attempt to boost our record mid-season.

I agree with you. I don't think we are on the cusp and don't expect us to be on a winning streak and on the cusp of the 8th seed given our schedule and how we have struggled and barely beat even the very worst teams, sometimes with crazy comebacks. We do catch a good team off guard on occasion and it's fun and nice to see our young players play well and gain confidence but it's not something I expect to do often. My point was that if I really thought the team was a fringe playoff team, that might be when you want to make a move. We are not currently a fringe playoff team being more than twice as far from the western 8th seed than the west's worst team, that being before we hit the tough part of our schedule.

I think the best course is to let the young guys keep developing, use our picks wisely and let the team grow. I don't think adding one piece does much for us. It might make us a little better but the core of our team simply won't be ready to really compete in the playoffs for a couple of years. It might be nice to make it next year and get a taste of it, but I'd rather do it organically for the most part. I don't mind adding a piece this summer if it makes sense, since we have cap space, like Avery Bradley if they think it's best to use the cap space this summer, but would rather not deplete our assets since we are not likely going anywhere anyway and we need to let our young guys play as much as possible.

You go ahead and let F-n Ulis develope. Jesus.... you guys make it sound like adding a GD real pg is going to throw this team backwards.

What are you afraid of? Losing 4-1 in the playoffs ?

Christ, I’ll drop down 5-6 picks in the draft to see that.... oh... and can’t you consider that as developing?

F-n tanker mentality around here. I can see not wanting to break up this so called core, but wtf? We have enough damn draft picks. Face it, you are not going to swap an 8-9 and a 16-17 for a top 5.

Go out and get a PG! Now. This team will develop better and quicker when you eliminate that glaring hole.

The love affair with drafting is blinding. Raising AZ couldn’t have said it better.

This team has been playing fairly well....better than expected without that. I've said I wouldn't mind trading for George Hill, but he hasn't done much for the Kings, and I don't imagine him getting us near the playoffs or adding maybe more than a win or two. Not sure it's worth depleting our cap space for that when someone like Bradley is younger and probably a better fit, but still, not sure he does more than likely a PG we can add in the draft. The Jazz and Clippers are ahead of us and have stars out, and even Memphis with Conley is good and have played a brutal schedule.

I'm just not sure who is available that can help us that much. Maybe Tyreke, but they are holding out for a first round pick as of now. Perhaps if they take our 2nd it is worth it but he expires and might end up elsewhere anyway.

[Qwigglez]

Did anyone check out this article?
https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2018/01/09/phoenix-suns-nba-draft-lottery-jay-triano-devin-booker/1018511001/

Mentions we are 13-17 under Triano when Devin Booker is playing. Actually, we are 13-16 if under Triano and both Booker/Warren are playing. That's not too bad. Had we fired Watson immediately after last season and had JT at beginning of the off-season perhaps we'd see a different ripple effect where Bledsoe/Booker are dynamite and we may be closer to a .500 ball club, and we'd be actively on the trade market dangling our picks.

Now people are mentioning Avery Bradley, but it may take a 1st to acquire him. I'd rather go for George Hill where we may get an additional asset back, such as 2 2nd round picks. It isn't much, but Hill would basically be expiring next year, and he played very solid basketball for the Jazz last year. Bradley would also hinder our ability to offer a max contract to a free agent in the summer of 2019 if we give Bradley any kind of contract he is looking for (likely at least $16mil a year).

[lilfishi22]

If it's between spending a 1st to get Bradley or just salary for Hill, I'd probably take Hill. If we still wanted Bradley, I'd try and get him in the offseason. I think having Bradley + Hill will be expensive but I think that shores up our back court with the Booker/Bradley/Hill rotation for one more season. Hill will roll off after next season and we'll be left with a Booker/Bradley back court. That leaves our picks to pick up a player of need in the draft.

[bwgood77]

Did anyone check out this article?
https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2018/01/09/phoenix-suns-nba-draft-lottery-jay-triano-devin-booker/1018511001/

Mentions we are 13-17 under Triano when Devin Booker is playing. Actually, we are 13-16 if under Triano and both Booker/Warren are playing. That's not too bad. Had we fired Watson immediately after last season and had JT at beginning of the off-season perhaps we'd see a different ripple effect where Bledsoe/Booker are dynamite and we may be closer to a .500 ball club, and we'd be actively on the trade market dangling our picks.

Now people are mentioning Avery Bradley, but it may take a 1st to acquire him. I'd rather go for George Hill where we may get an additional asset back, such as 2 2nd round picks. It isn't much, but Hill would basically be expiring next year, and he played very solid basketball for the Jazz last year. Bradley would also hinder our ability to offer a max contract to a free agent in the summer of 2019 if we give Bradley any kind of contract he is looking for (likely at least $16mil a year).

Nothing for Bradley since he's a free agent. We could decide then. I think he might be a McD target. I imagine the Pistons will hold onto as they try to make the playoffs. Hill for 2nds maybe depending on cap space plans. He is shooting 47% from 3. I'd still like to see what Davon Reed can do and give him some playing time down the stretch. And Daniels can shoot the 3 (over 40%) and is cheap. Canaan hits the 3 pretty well. I don't know if Hill moves the needle over these guys much and he is really expensive and leaves us little free agent options. I think Reed deserves a chance and if Canaan and Daniels keep playing fairly well, not sure the contract cost and cap space is worth it.