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Lavar Ball: Players don't want to play for Luke anymore

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Re: Lavar Ball: Players don't want to play for Luke anymore 

Post#161 » by Indy2LA » Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:56 am

RamonSessions7 wrote:
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RamonSessions7 wrote:Or, you know, just watch the basketball and appreciate lonzo on the court and don't listen to the junk reality show peripheral crap.


What am I supposed to appreciate? 35% from the field? The worst jumper in NBA history? A dunk in a game we lost by 20?

I'd rather have a chance to draft Marvin Bagley and get rid of this locker room cancer.

Writing off 20yo rookies (be it by hand picking negative attributes about them) seems like such a fulfilling way to be a fan of a team. But I do not get drooling over some college prospect that we could have in your hypothetical scenario as a way of rooting.


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This was one of my most recent posts hahaha. I agree that you can't write off a 20 year old prospect who probably shouldn't even be in the NBA yet, but there is no denying that his father is a locker room cancer and he himself has done nothing to improve the situation. If you want to go by his play alone you have to be worried about his awful shooting form, historic inefficiency, and lack of leadership. We would have been better off losing our pick and avoiding this circus.
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Re: Lavar Ball: Players don't want to play for Luke anymore 

Post#162 » by RamonSessions7 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:59 am

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What am I supposed to appreciate? 35% from the field? The worst jumper in NBA history? A dunk in a game we lost by 20?

I'd rather have a chance to draft Marvin Bagley and get rid of this locker room cancer.

Writing off 20yo rookies (be it by hand picking negative attributes about them) seems like such a fulfilling way to be a fan of a team. But I do not get drooling over some college prospect that we could have in your hypothetical scenario as a way of rooting.


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This was one of my most recent posts hahaha. I agree that you can't write off a 20 year old prospect who probably shouldn't even be in the NBA yet, but there is no denying that his father is a locker room cancer and he himself has done nothing to improve the situation. If you want to go by his play alone you have to be worried about his awful shooting form, historic inefficiency, and lack of leadership. We would have been better off losing our pick and avoiding this circus.

Well Ok then. If you think this media created Lavar issue is worth losing Lonzo, I guess that's your choice. I prefer to keep the player showing this promise and just not pay attention to ESPN nonsense, but to each their own.
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Re: Lavar Ball: Players don't want to play for Luke anymore 

Post#163 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:15 am

If nothing else, this will likely set up some interesting narratives in the future. I think its pretty clear that LaVar is always going to complain about a coach, doesn't matter who it is, or why, its just going to happen. Lets say Luke has lost the team and the Lakers FO realizes this and decides to move in a different direction - LaVar is going to take all the credit for it. When he does, the media is going to pump it into everyone's mind that LaVar is running the team, whether that is the case or not.

As others have said, this could be an issue when it comes to finding a future coach. I mean, you've already had a bunch of coaches speak out about it, all while the Lakers have remained pretty quiet. I imagine that is going to speak volumes to the good coaches around the NBA as well.

I'd be shocked if it stops with coaches too. I mean, how long before he really starts going in on players? We've already seen him do it while Lonzo was at UCLA. Maybe it happens, maybe it doesn't, who knows.

Either way I think its pretty clear, LaVar Ball's presence is going to be an issue moving forward.
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Re: Lavar Ball: Players don't want to play for Luke anymore 

Post#164 » by spikeslovechild » Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:20 pm

Front page of the ESPN BB page:

http://www.espn.com/nba/

ESPN is going to destroy the lakers for clicks

As a known laker hater you are on thin ice with baiting

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Re: Lavar Ball: Players don't want to play for Luke anymore 

Post#165 » by TyCobb » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:49 pm

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/lonzo-ball-even-worth-headaches-lakers-164330726.html

This family is getting ALOT of people PAID.

The obsession is REAL.


“Quite honestly this should be a non-issue,” former NBA guard Greg Anthony told Yahoo Sports. “I’ve dealt with parents, friends and significant others over the course of my career. The reach that LaVar Ball has creates a little bit of a different dynamic, but for the most part it’s the same stuff. It’s more about who Lonzo Ball is. And from all accounts he is a terrific kid and an incredible teammate. That’s the most important thing.”

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Yet that isn't good enough for these writers because they need to talk about the Ball family.
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Re: Lavar Ball: Players don't want to play for Luke anymore 

Post#166 » by Sushisensei26 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:52 pm

I recently read some of the group chat of the Ringer writers and one of them said, "well the Lakers are so bad that if Lavar didn't do this stuff there would be no storylines and narratives".

I just thought to myself, do these guys realize that normal people don't think in terms of "narratives" and "storylines"? They live in that world and they push that **** HARD because whatever gets clicks is OK. In some ways our standards as a society have dropped because we accepted the Kardashsians and their ilk as legitimate. So why wouldn't the standards for journalistic integrity also drop along with everything else.
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Re: Lavar Ball: Players don't want to play for Luke anymore 

Post#167 » by madmaxmedia » Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:13 pm

spikeslovechild wrote:Front page of the ESPN BB page:

http://www.espn.com/nba/


https://deadspin.com/espn-its-bad-that-we-keep-squeezing-juicy-quotes-out-o-1821950556

The Lakers have a problem now, in ESPN’s formulation. ESPN reporters think the Lakers must do a better job of preventing LaVar Ball from making, to ESPN reporters who follow him to Lithuania, stick a microphone in his face, and ask him for his opinions on issues related to his famous sons, statements that those ESPN reporters may then parse for their most incendiary content and package as inflammatory on ESPN’s various platforms. Why are their executives so silent on this issue? What is wrong with the Lakers that they have not stopped us from making an entire factory out of the hot takes of this famous gasbag? Don’t they know that [extremely appropriate passive voice] there is always oxygen somewhere?
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Re: Lavar Ball: Players don't want to play for Luke anymore 

Post#168 » by MelosSoreWrist » Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:21 pm

TyCobb wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/sports/lonzo-ball-even-worth-headaches-lakers-164330726.html

This family is getting ALOT of people PAID.

The obsession is REAL.


“Quite honestly this should be a non-issue,” former NBA guard Greg Anthony told Yahoo Sports. “I’ve dealt with parents, friends and significant others over the course of my career. The reach that LaVar Ball has creates a little bit of a different dynamic, but for the most part it’s the same stuff. It’s more about who Lonzo Ball is. And from all accounts he is a terrific kid and an incredible teammate. That’s the most important thing.”

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Yet that isn't good enough for these writers because they need to talk about the Ball family.

People are getting paid.... but not theses guys:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-big-baller-lawsuit-20180108-story.html

If you believe the reports, looks like a conman working a ponzi scheme.
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Re: Lavar Ball: Players don't want to play for Luke anymore 

Post#169 » by RamonSessions7 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:11 am

MelosSoreWrist wrote:
TyCobb wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/sports/lonzo-ball-even-worth-headaches-lakers-164330726.html

This family is getting ALOT of people PAID.

The obsession is REAL.


“Quite honestly this should be a non-issue,” former NBA guard Greg Anthony told Yahoo Sports. “I’ve dealt with parents, friends and significant others over the course of my career. The reach that LaVar Ball has creates a little bit of a different dynamic, but for the most part it’s the same stuff. It’s more about who Lonzo Ball is. And from all accounts he is a terrific kid and an incredible teammate. That’s the most important thing.”

____

Yet that isn't good enough for these writers because they need to talk about the Ball family.

People are getting paid.... but not theses guys:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-big-baller-lawsuit-20180108-story.html

If you believe the reports, looks like a conman working a ponzi scheme.

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Re: Lavar Ball: Players don't want to play for Luke anymore 

Post#170 » by Heat_team02 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:38 pm

Lavar is just mad that Lonzo's W-L record is going to be filled with Losses early on and will not be on National TV for a while.

So with each passing loss, Lavar's going to become more and more irrational.
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Re: Lavar Ball: Players don't want to play for Luke anymore 

Post#172 » by madmaxmedia » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:25 am

As usual, Pops said it best (I was just coming here to post that tweet!)
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Re: Lavar Ball: Players don't want to play for Luke anymore 

Post#173 » by stan francisco » Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:11 pm

Sushisensei26 wrote:I recently read some of the group chat of the Ringer writers and one of them said, "well the Lakers are so bad that if Lavar didn't do this stuff there would be no storylines and narratives".

I just thought to myself, do these guys realize that normal people don't think in terms of "narratives" and "storylines"? They live in that world and they push that **** HARD because whatever gets clicks is OK. In some ways our standards as a society have dropped because we accepted the Kardashsians and their ilk as legitimate. So why wouldn't the standards for journalistic integrity also drop along with everything else.


Yeah, pathetic.

McDonald's might sell the most but the high quality stuff is elsewhere. People mistake activity for achievement. The journalist, and Lavar too, can choose substance over gimmick. Click now or click later? They'll all jump on "now".
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