Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018

[JEIS]

DJ Wilson to Brooklyn for Tyler Zeller/whichever 2nd round pick Brooklyn ends up with (Orlando or LAL)

We should have just traded our pick draft night.

[Ron Swanson]

Ersan also kinda sucked the previous 2 seasons and is only being shopped now because he's playing well and hitting 40% of his 3's. We need to stop trying to trade for old guys when their value is at its highest and instead be taking fliers on younger players who are yet to break out, like we did with Snell.

[TroyD92]

bucks fans are emotionally involved with Jabari. if his first 4 years had been with Memphis nobody here would touch him for that kind of money.

But you'd do it for 15 million a year? 10 million? Those aren't equivalent contracts anymore. James Johnson got 13 million, Mike Conley (who i'm a big fan of) is getting 32 million a year. The problem is we signed guys like Snell, Telly, and Delly for these dumb mid money contracts and they aren't worth the capspace they eat up. It's a failed organization that offers these mid tier (lower mid-tier) players these so called "value" deals and then you're left with no capspace and these guys doing what they've always done for contracts that are 300, 400% of their peak value. You can't let the only guy who you've got in the wings who has the potential and track record to show he can put up legit all-star level of numbers. Criticize his defense, etc but the guy is 23 and far from his peak. Teams like the Bucks should be the ones betting on a guy like that, because if he never got hurt there's no way he would be getting less than the max.

And if your aunt had balls she'd be your uncle.

You're not illogical on all the stuff you said prior, but I sure hope they're not using your last point in this assessment. I still disagree but i see your logic.

But I'd say if he wasn't ours already we shouldn't be looking to add a guy like him and would be looking for other team building routes to get that star rather than having the mentality of "we're the Bucks and we can't do any better" so let's just hope this works out. We have to get rid of that attitude, having Giannis changes everything we've been accustomed to the last 30 years. That said, at this point if we don't get a good trade they have to resign and kick the can down the road a bit and see what happens. Can't let him go for nothing.

All I was saying with that was if he didn't get hurt no one here besides CHL would be opposed to giving him max. Even if you still saw flaws in his game and didn't want to do it you wouldn't deny that it's a fair value contract for a 23 year old all-star. I 'm not even equating the radical trajectory upwards he would have had if he wasn't injured and could actually work on his game even more.

[EastSideBucksFan]

ESBF out here on twitter looking to trade for Ersan lol

You got a problem with the Turkish Thunder?

I liked your deadmon idea way more

Dedmon makes way more sense. DD playing Thon minutes beefs up the Bucks frontcourt and bench in a huge way.

And I know Jabari gonna take a bunch of PF minutes.

But, I think Ersan could still find some minutes and if he only costs a 2nd or Rashad, I'm game.

I'd send DJ Wilson out for Dedmon in a heartbeat.

[Jimmmycrackcorn]

We should have just traded our pick draft night.

100% truth

it had way more value when it wasn't DJ Wilson

[DingleJerry]

Ersan also kinda sucked the previous 2 seasons and is only being shopped now because he's playing well and hitting 40% of his 3's. We need to stop trying to trade for old guys when their value is at its highest and instead be taking fliers on younger players who are yet to break out, like we did with Snell.

Ers did great last year with Philly

[Chuck Diesel]

Also like Reggie Hearn for the other 2-way.

[Sauce Boss]

If we're dead set on getting some front court help and we don't want to do something risky with our assets, I'd be ok bringing in Ersan for half a season. It'd probably have to be Vaughn and a second to avoid tax (barely, I think?), so might not work if ATL just wants a straight cash dump. Could use the Hibbert trade exception, but then we'd need to cut a player and pay tax.

[JEIS]

ESBF out here on twitter looking to trade for Ersan lol

Herb would probably be willing to pay the Bucks new owners under the table to bring back Ers. He actually was a pretty decent rebounder at center iirc.

[JayMKE]

Ersan would be better at the 5 than Thon rn

[DrWood]

Ersan makes the team better, but I don't know how to make the money work.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Once again, if Jabari was on another team right now and about to become a RFA and we had space would anyone even be considering giving him 4/100 or obviously anything more like he's asking for? This board would be almost unanimously against it.

bucks fans are emotionally involved with Jabari. if his first 4 years had been with Memphis nobody here would touch him for that kind of money.

But you'd do it for 15 million a year? 10 million? Those aren't equivalent contracts anymore. James Johnson got 13 million, Mike Conley (who i'm a big fan of) is getting 32 million a year. The problem is we signed guys like Snell, Telly, and Delly for these dumb mid money contracts and they aren't worth the capspace they eat up. It's a failed organization that offers these mid tier (lower mid-tier) players these so called "value" deals and then you're left with no capspace and these guys doing what they've always done for contracts that are 300, 400% of their peak value. You can't let the only guy who you've got in the wings who has the potential and track record to show he can put up legit all-star level of numbers. Criticize his defense, etc but the guy is 23 and far from his peak. Teams like the Bucks should be the ones betting on a guy like that, because if he never got hurt there's no way he would be getting less than the max.

I don't understand. your post doesn't address the injury risk as it relates to the money.

I feel fairly confident he gets hurt again soon. that's the problem for me. id need a contract like a 2 year deal with a team option to consider anything with him.

[BroncoBuck]

If we're dead set on getting some front court help and we don't want to do something risky with our assets, I'd be ok bringing in Ersan for half a season. It'd probably have to be Vaughn and a second to avoid tax (barely, I think?), so might not work if ATL just wants a straight cash dump. Could use the Hibbert trade exception, but then we'd need to cut a player and pay tax.

If the Bucks applied for the Telly IPE they’d have room to absorb him. Deadline to apply is the 15th.

[Sauce Boss]

If we're dead set on getting some front court help and we don't want to do something risky with our assets, I'd be ok bringing in Ersan for half a season. It'd probably have to be Vaughn and a second to avoid tax (barely, I think?), so might not work if ATL just wants a straight cash dump. Could use the Hibbert trade exception, but then we'd need to cut a player and pay tax.

If the Bucks applied for the Telly IPE they’d have room to absorb him. Deadline to apply is the 15th.

If that's how that works within the parameters of the CBA, I think that makes the most sense.

[TroyD92]

bucks fans are emotionally involved with Jabari. if his first 4 years had been with Memphis nobody here would touch him for that kind of money.

But you'd do it for 15 million a year? 10 million? Those aren't equivalent contracts anymore. James Johnson got 13 million, Mike Conley (who i'm a big fan of) is getting 32 million a year. The problem is we signed guys like Snell, Telly, and Delly for these dumb mid money contracts and they aren't worth the capspace they eat up. It's a failed organization that offers these mid tier (lower mid-tier) players these so called "value" deals and then you're left with no capspace and these guys doing what they've always done for contracts that are 300, 400% of their peak value. You can't let the only guy who you've got in the wings who has the potential and track record to show he can put up legit all-star level of numbers. Criticize his defense, etc but the guy is 23 and far from his peak. Teams like the Bucks should be the ones betting on a guy like that, because if he never got hurt there's no way he would be getting less than the max.

I don't understand. your post doesn't address the injury risk as it relates to the money.

I feel fairly confident he gets hurt again soon. that's the problem for me. id need a contract like a 2 year deal with a team option to consider anything with him.

If you’re going on the assumption that he does tear his ACL again than there is no reason to even discuss it with you

[JEIS]

Bring the crew back for 50 year anniversary. Ers, Bogut, Swaggy Jennings and Ellis. The past and present come together to own the future. Bucks DNA

[Triple 7]

I feel fairly confident he gets hurt again soon. that's the problem for me. id need a contract like a 2 year deal with a team option to consider anything with him.

There are a lot of teams throughout the league that won't have such reservations

[Gianstoppable]

Bring the crew back for 50 year anniversary. Ers, Bogut, Swaggy Jennings and Ellis. The past and present come together to own the future. Bucks DNA

"You gotta respect the past to own the future"

[Chapter29]

If we could find a way to buy low on Justise Winslow, that would be the bees knees.

Yep. I want to be patient and wait for deals like this one might be.

And I really wouldn't mind seeing Parker and the team healthy before deciding there. Though I do understand the desire to avoid the contract risk. Very real.

[raferfenix]

It's 2018 and the Bucks would still be better off if we had never given away Ersan, ZaZa and Dudley.

Ugh.

We're really feeling the effects from getting so little from DJ Wilson, Thon, and Vaughn.