Trade Ideas (Part III)

[Stillwater]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6991169
No picks

Come on man. Why would the Bulls do that?

I know , not too realistic.I don't even like Lopez on this roster so just cut him and Thompson out of the deal more I think about it,but I would be willing to do just about anything at this point to get a defensive point guard. Depends on how high Chicago is on Dunn, but I could see them having some interest in IT3 and re-signing him this summer.They don't seem interested in tanking or going full rebuild.
Maybe IT3 & Zizic for Dunn and Zipser, they can have the Cavs 2020 from Miami since their taking back more $.

[jcsunsfan]

Monroe is an answer to a problem we don't presently have, and no, there's really no way you're getting the Brooklyn pick in a trade for him. I'd consider TT for Monroe, who frankly would fit really well on the Suns, but I wouldn't part with the Brooklyn pick to do it.

There are a lot of other possibilities. Options to trade picks, future first round picks. If you don't think you need Monroe though, not sure if there is a point.

TT is a non-starter. We have had our fill of Rich Paul.

I don't blame you re: Paul but TT is signed for long enough that it wouldn't be an issue. But if TT is a non starter, then there really isn't anything to talk about.

I always thought it would by Frye and Shump. Not that we really want those players. TT just seems to be almost negative value. Guess we might as well keep Monroe. The $17 million expiring will help.

[jbk1234]

There are a lot of other possibilities. Options to trade picks, future first round picks. If you don't think you need Monroe though, not sure if there is a point.

TT is a non-starter. We have had our fill of Rich Paul.

I don't blame you re: Paul but TT is signed for long enough that it wouldn't be an issue. But if TT is a non starter, then there really isn't anything to talk about.

I always thought it would by Frye and Shump. Not that we really want those players. TT just seems to be almost negative value. Guess we might as well keep Monroe. The $17 million expiring will help.

You guys have any interest in IT?

[CaptainCanada]

I don't blame you re: Paul but TT is signed for long enough that it wouldn't be an issue. But if TT is a non starter, then there really isn't anything to talk about.

I always thought it would by Frye and Shump. Not that we really want those players. TT just seems to be almost negative value. Guess we might as well keep Monroe. The $17 million expiring will help.

You guys have any interest in IT?

I think teams are more interested in getting the Brooklyn pick as an asset. IT has to prove he is healthy; and even then teams know he is getting paid next year so Cav's won't get as much for him as they would like. First round picks, however, are treated as gold now in cost conscious NBA.

[jbk1234]

I always thought it would by Frye and Shump. Not that we really want those players. TT just seems to be almost negative value. Guess we might as well keep Monroe. The $17 million expiring will help.

You guys have any interest in IT?

I think teams are more interested in getting the Brooklyn pick as an asset. IT has to prove he is healthy; and even then teams know he is getting paid next year so Cav's won't get as much for him as they would like. First round picks, however, are treated as gold now in cost conscious NBA.

Yeah. Everyone knows. Cavs are very unlikely to trade it. It would basically require PG to come on the market at this point.

[DusterBuster]

Would the Cavs have any interest in Ed Davis and a 1st round pick from Portland in return for Crowder?

Heard the Cavs have been having to play Crowder out of position at PF. Davis is a natural PF who plays excellent D and is a really high quality role player. He’s also on an expiring contract and could be resigned for a reasonable price this summer. Portland meanwhile is in need of a SF and Crowder seems like a good fit for the Blazers whereas he seems to be a square peg in a round hole for Cleveland.

[jbk1234]

Would the Cavs have any interest in Ed Davis and a 1st round pick from Portland in return for Crowder?

Heard the Cavs have been having to play Crowder out of position at PF. Davis is a natural PF who plays excellent D and is a really high quality role player. He’s also on an expiring contract and could be resigned for a reasonable price this summer. Portland meanwhile is in need of a SF and Crowder seems like a good fit for the Blazers whereas he seems to be a square peg in a round hole for Cleveland.

I wouldn't reject it out of hand but Crowder is one of our better trade assets and there's real, meaning not created by LBJ's preferences, holes that need to be filled first. I'd probably want a buyer for Portland's first lined up to fill one of those.

[DusterBuster]

Would the Cavs have any interest in Ed Davis and a 1st round pick from Portland in return for Crowder?

Heard the Cavs have been having to play Crowder out of position at PF. Davis is a natural PF who plays excellent D and is a really high quality role player. He’s also on an expiring contract and could be resigned for a reasonable price this summer. Portland meanwhile is in need of a SF and Crowder seems like a good fit for the Blazers whereas he seems to be a square peg in a round hole for Cleveland.

I wouldn't reject it out of hand but Crowder is one of our better trade assets and there's real, meaning not created by LBJ's preferences, holes that need to be filled first. I'd probably want a buyer for Portland's first lined up to fill one of those.

What else are the Cavs looking for? Something else on the Blazers roster that could help without going crazy (meaning no Dame, CJ or Nurkic)?

Say Ed Davis, Evan Turner, Swanigan and a pick for Tristan Thompson and Jae Crowder? Not really sure what the Cavs needs are tbh, so I’m just spitballing here.

[jcsunsfan]

I always thought it would by Frye and Shump. Not that we really want those players. TT just seems to be almost negative value. Guess we might as well keep Monroe. The $17 million expiring will help.

You guys have any interest in IT?

I think teams are more interested in getting the Brooklyn pick as an asset. IT has to prove he is healthy; and even then teams know he is getting paid next year so Cav's won't get as much for him as they would like. First round picks, however, are treated as gold now in cost conscious NBA.

I think maybe that Brooklyn pick might come into to play as it becomes more clear where its going to fall. I would think you would be willing to trade it more if it ends up 9-11. Plus you could always top 5 protect it and then trade it. There are creative options for a deal. For instance, say you trade with the Suns. You trade the Brooklyn pick with top five protection (and whatever salary is necessary) for Monroe, and the Miami pick the Suns own, plus some second rounders or something. If the Brooklyn pick is in the top 5, the Suns have to give you their own pick AND the Miami pick. Please, I am not pushing this trade. I am sure its not quite right. I am just using it as example of the type of options available.

[Stillwater]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6991469
If Dallas has interest in TT , this would get them out of Matthews contract who would most likely opt in this summer ,whose value is debatable given his impact to contract scale ratio same as Thompson's. Clearly Noel is still in the dog house down there,would give Cavs same defense as Thompson probably better if motivated which he clearly is not in Dallas, and Crowder could go back to playing the 3 in Dallas because he clearly cannot play the 4 here.

[Triple 7]

Delly, Rashad Vaughn, DJ Wilson for TT. Salaries work.

What do you say?

[jbk1234]

Would the Cavs have any interest in Ed Davis and a 1st round pick from Portland in return for Crowder?

Heard the Cavs have been having to play Crowder out of position at PF. Davis is a natural PF who plays excellent D and is a really high quality role player. He’s also on an expiring contract and could be resigned for a reasonable price this summer. Portland meanwhile is in need of a SF and Crowder seems like a good fit for the Blazers whereas he seems to be a square peg in a round hole for Cleveland.

I wouldn't reject it out of hand but Crowder is one of our better trade assets and there's real, meaning not created by LBJ's preferences, holes that need to be filled first. I'd probably want a buyer for Portland's first lined up to fill one of those.

What else are the Cavs looking for? Something else on the Blazers roster that could help without going crazy (meaning no Dame, CJ or Nurkic)?

Say Ed Davis, Evan Turner, Swanigan and a pick for Tristan Thompson and Jae Crowder? Not really sure what the Cavs needs are tbh, so I’m just spitballing here.

We need guards who can keep their man in front of them.

[jbk1234]

Delly, Rashad Vaughn, DJ Wilson for TT. Salaries work.

What do you say?

If I could find a third team that would give us anything of value for Vaughn & Wilson, sure. But we'd probably have to have another trade lined up to pull this off.

[DusterBuster]

I wouldn't reject it out of hand but Crowder is one of our better trade assets and there's real, meaning not created by LBJ's preferences, holes that need to be filled first. I'd probably want a buyer for Portland's first lined up to fill one of those.

What else are the Cavs looking for? Something else on the Blazers roster that could help without going crazy (meaning no Dame, CJ or Nurkic)?

Say Ed Davis, Evan Turner, Swanigan and a pick for Tristan Thompson and Jae Crowder? Not really sure what the Cavs needs are tbh, so I’m just spitballing here.

We need guards who can keep their man in front of them.

You and the rest of the NBA lol.

I will say in all seriousness tho, for all of Turners flaws, he’s actually a pretty good defender.

[jbk1234]

The most annoying thing about the T&T board this year is that any proposal for any Cavs player inevitably devolves into *how about we switch this up and get the Brooklyn pick for our replacement-level players?*

[jayu70]

Assuming we absolutely have to make a move: JR/Shump for Bazemore/Bellenelli - straight up.

Easy pass for the Hawks. Rather keep Baze and get a 2nd for Belinelli.

[DusterBuster]

The most annoying thing about the T&T board this year is that any proposal for any Cavs player inevitably devolves into *how about we switch this up and get the Brooklyn pick for our replacement-level players?*

Blazers had that same issue last year when they owned 3 separate picks. Ever deal devolved into "Portland needs to include every pick to make a trade".

[Stillwater]

I think fans of other teams should let go of the possibility of getting the Nets pick from us. Without an all nba 2way player on a team option minimum this summer(no chance of it being moved for an expiring and little chance for a player option contract) , we will just keep the pick.

[CaptainCanada]

I think fans of other teams should let go of the possibility of getting the Nets pick from us. Without an all nba 2way player on a team option minimum this summer(no chance of it being moved for an expiring and little chance for a player option contract) , we will just keep the pick.

I wouldn't blame the Cav's for keeping the pick. It will probably be most valuable come the actual draft anyways; so it would be stupid to trade it before draft day.

[Norm2953]

The most annoying thing about the T&T board this year is that any proposal for any Cavs player inevitably devolves into *how about we switch this up and get the Brooklyn pick for our replacement-level players?*

Blazers had that same issue last year when they owned 3 separate picks. Ever deal devolved into "Portland needs to include every pick to make a trade".

I could actually see Portland and Cleveland getting together on a deal built around TT and Turner or perhaps Napier going to
the Cavs for a pick.