GT #41: Jazz @ Wizards - Wed Jan 10th - 7 PM

[Ruzious]

Who am I?

I'm Wizardspride/Randy , a poster with an opinion on a message board.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Ditto -- sorry for my tone. Stupid sometimes...

Don't worry about it. I think we're all just a little frustrated with the situation.

On the bright side, we could be the Lakers dealing with Lavar Ball.

His kid looked really good last night; Lavar's not pif's. So did Nance. Still not sure the Lakers realize what they have with Nance.

[TheBabyMaker]

Or Otto too for that matter.

I have no interest in building around Bradley/Otto.

If you trade John, well then just really blow it up and trade those two as well.

Why? Neither of them are going to make 40 million, neither of them are 27 years old. Neither of them have intangible issues. You could make the argument that removing Wall would solve the leadership issues immediately.

Build around Oubre Porter and Beal and the return for Wall plus the savings on that outrageously horrible super max contract

Removing Wall would save the leadership issues? Did you watch the team without Wall? They weren't exactly leading by example in Wall's absense. This is a rudderless ship with or without Wall. Dumping Wall and every other worthless salary in the books so your boy Ernie can then blow it on some scrub is probably one of the worst suggestions made here in recent memory. Its like this board is stuck on stupid and your leading the damn parade.

I feel you man it was the same **** when Gil was here. Same old redundant BS from some posters here with no clue. I could go on but I am not saying anymore.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Its just not possible that we trade Wall ...anytime soon.
The good news is he is drawing fouls, converting at the rim, playing better defense than he has the last couple years, and is hitting the 3 ball... Fact is, only FT shooting and long 2's are the only percentages that are down. I have faith his FT's will climb a little, and couldnt care less about his long 2's as long as he takes less of them.

Really? Lets see...

Per 40 minutes:
Offensive rebounds are down from last year.
Defensive rebounds are down from last year.
Points are down from last year.
Steals are down from last year.
2 pt. % is down from last year.
FT% is down -- way down! -- from last year.
eFG% is down from last year.
TS% is down from last year.
Even FTs are slightly down from last year.

In other words, no he is not "drawing fouls" -- if by that you mean more than, or even as much as, last year. No, he's not "converting at the rim," if by that you mean he's scoring better from 2-point range, & no, "FT shooting and long 2's are the only percentages that are down" is not correct.

But, 3pt. % is up from last year, so I guess we are supposed to concentrate on that, pay no attention to everything else or to his overall effectiveness, b/c "having faith" will take care of those problems.

Only... please explain: why? Why should we we ignore the bad stuff? Why should we not care if his shooting effectiveness -- never a strong point -- is down? Why are the few exceptions to this set of downward changes more important than the overall unquestionable downward change in his play?

You realize were not even at the halfway point of the season yet?

Before we doom Wall to the beginning of a long steep decline lets allow the season to play out.

The way this board is going, Nat will have you guys talking about buying Wall out and handing the keys of the team over to Sato.

This team has an obvious motivation problem with some terrible bad habits but despite all the flaws, its still arguably the 2nd most talented team in the East at the moment... with a veteran core that's still young.

The Wizards are 23-18. 23+18=41. The NBA season is 82 games. One-half of 82 is 41.



I don't know about your math, but I agree with the part in red, Dat2U.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Why? Neither of them are going to make 40 million, neither of them are 27 years old. Neither of them have intangible issues. You could make the argument that removing Wall would solve the leadership issues immediately.

Build around Oubre Porter and Beal and the return for Wall plus the savings on that outrageously horrible super max contract

Removing Wall would save the leadership issues? Did you watch the team without Wall? They weren't exactly leading by example in Wall's absense. This is a rudderless ship with or without Wall. Dumping Wall and every other worthless salary in the books so your boy Ernie can then blow it on some scrub is probably one of the worst suggestions made here in recent memory. Its like this board is stuck on stupid and your leading the damn parade.

I feel you man it was the same **** when Gil was here. Same old redundant BS from some posters here with no clue. I could go on but I am not saying anymore.

I go on and on ... Same as when I SAID THE WIZARDS NEVER SHOULD GIVE GIL A CONTRACT SINCE HE OPTED OUT WHILE INJURED....

The cool part is even though I said that I WAS NOT MAD AT GILBERT FOR GETTING PAID. Not in the least.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I KNEW that contract was a bad idea.

I keep posting. Folks can leave the board or better, ignore me, that way they're not brought down by my STRONG AND SOMETIMES WRONG opinions. I think it's just debate. We don't call shots on this forum.

I just vent and generally really enjoy what I'm doing.

The Wizards are the team in the east that could beat ANY of Cleveland, Boston, and Toronto in the playoffs IF ... They're one injury and one decent trade away. They need what I would call a mofo. Pierce was a mofo. Washington needs someone like Z Bo or Boogie. And they need to get the ball out of Wall and Beals mitts OCCASIONALLY in crunch time. They're not making the right clutch plays but they have half the season to get it right.