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GT #42: Magic @ Wizards 7 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM)

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Re: RE: Re: GT #42: Magic @ Wizards 7 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#81 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:53 pm

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CobraCommander wrote:Btw...while we are bemoaning the wizards for losing games ...the wiz are quietly 7-3 in the last 10. We just demand excellence !

And 7-4 in their last 11.

5 of those 11 games were home games against sub-.500 teams. (record was 4-1)
3 of those 11 games were road games against sub-.500 teams. (record was 1-2)
2 of those 11 games were home games against good teams. (record was 1-1)
1 of those 11 games was a road game against a good team. (record was 1-0)

It's those first two groups that hurt. You have to beat all bad teams at home. Should have gone 5-0. And in that second group, an elite team wins those as well, and a pretty good team should at least go 2-1. We lost in Brooklyn and Atlanta, their respective winning percentages are .381 and .262. You'd like to win the home games against good teams, but that was offset by the road win against a good team.

All in all, a 50ish win team should have gone 9-2 in that stretch.

(Not to be griping at you or anything. I'm sure you're as frustrated as me about the inconsistency.)
Split the difference and say 8-3 would have been nicer. I disagree that any team "should" go 9-2 over an 11-game game stretch.

Regardless of the schedule I'm pleased with the last 11 games overall. Think I'm going to start a positivity thread...

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Re: GT #42: Magic @ Wizards 7 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#82 » by payitforward » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:56 pm

I'm still traveling & was unable to watch the game last night. A win's a win, of course, but between this thread & the box score, it must have been one weird game!

4 of Orlando's players went 27-32, shot 100% on 3's, & were 19-20 from the FT line. Wow!
The other 6 went 14-45, shot 32% on 3's, & were 6-10 from the FT line. Anti-wow!

Meanwhile, Mahinmi had an altogether amazing outing, & between him & Gortat our Centers got 10 offensive boards in 48 minutes!

Wall/Beal combined to take 40% of our shots, not usually a recipe for success but it worked this time.

15 extra shots won the game.
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Re: GT #42: Magic @ Wizards 7 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#83 » by nate33 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:12 pm

payitforward wrote:I'm still traveling & was unable to watch the game last night. A win's a win, of course, but between this thread & the box score, it must have been one weird game!

4 of Orlando's players went 27-32, shot 100% on 3's, & were 19-20 from the FT line. Wow!
The other 6 went 14-45, shot 32% on 3's, & were 6-10 from the FT line. Anti-wow!

Meanwhile, Mahinmi had an altogether amazing outing, & between him & Gortat our Centers got 10 offensive boards in 48 minutes!

Wall/Beal combined to take 40% of our shots, not usually a recipe for success but it worked this time.

15 extra shots won the game.

It wasn't a very good game. Our defense was atrocious. Our only stops came from Mahinmi at the rim, or our wings jumping the passing lanes and getting a few steals. (Orlando also had several unforced turnovers.) We challenged virtually no shots anywhere on the court and Orlando was getting layups and dunks all night because our pick-and-roll defense was so bad.

Orlando could have blown it open in the 1st half, but thankfully Speights missed 4 WIDE OPEN shots in the 2nd quarter while Beal got red hot at the other end.
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Re: GT #42: Magic @ Wizards 7 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#84 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:19 pm

I'm starting to see why some people don't post because of the negativity.

Payitforward, Beal had a spectacular first half. He had 23 points by halftime.

Wall closed it out with a great 4th quarter.

Nate probably remembers the last couple of minutes were there was some really stupid place by the Wizards. Collectively but they all piled on with Kelly Oubre is taking one weird 3.

I just think it was another win. The Wizards had just beaten Orlando by 27 points in Orlando couple of weeks ago. This one they could have easily lost.

Not well played in spurts but I saw some really good things.

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Re: GT #42: Magic @ Wizards 7 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#85 » by nate33 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:15 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I'm starting to see why some people don't post because of the negativity.

Payitforward, Beal had a spectacular first half. He had 23 points by halftime.

Wall closed it out with a great 4th quarter.

Nate probably remembers the last couple of minutes were there was some really stupid place by the Wizards. Collectively but they all piled on with Kelly Oubre is taking one weird 3.

I just think it was another win. The Wizards had just beaten Orlando by 27 points in Orlando couple of weeks ago. This one they could have easily lost.

Not well played in spurts but I saw some really good things.

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I don't think I'm overly negative. I typically give props to the team for winning or even losing when they compete well against good teams. But the fact is, they did not play well this game. It took really hot shooting to pull it out when I prefer to see consistent, sustained defense.

If they played like this against any mid-tier team with a .400 record or better, they would have lost.
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Re: RE: Re: GT #42: Magic @ Wizards 7 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#86 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:20 pm

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I'm starting to see why some people don't post because of the negativity.

Payitforward, Beal had a spectacular first half. He had 23 points by halftime.

Wall closed it out with a great 4th quarter.

Nate probably remembers the last couple of minutes were there was some really stupid place by the Wizards. Collectively but they all piled on with Kelly Oubre is taking one weird 3.

I just think it was another win. The Wizards had just beaten Orlando by 27 points in Orlando couple of weeks ago. This one they could have easily lost.

Not well played in spurts but I saw some really good things.

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I don't think I'm overly negative. I typically give props to the team for winning or even losing when they compete well against good teams. But the fact is, they did not play well this game. It took really hot shooting to pull it out when I prefer to see consistent, sustained defense.

If they played like this against any mid-tier team with a .400 record or better, they would have lost.
I agree, you're not overly negative.

I enjoyed the game. They won even though they did not play well.

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Re: RE: Re: GT #42: Magic @ Wizards 7 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#87 » by CobraCommander » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:21 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
nate33 wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:Btw...while we are bemoaning the wizards for losing games ...the wiz are quietly 7-3 in the last 10. We just demand excellence !

And 7-4 in their last 11.

5 of those 11 games were home games against sub-.500 teams. (record was 4-1)
3 of those 11 games were road games against sub-.500 teams. (record was 1-2)
2 of those 11 games were home games against good teams. (record was 1-1)
1 of those 11 games was a road game against a good team. (record was 1-0)

It's those first two groups that hurt. You have to beat all bad teams at home. Should have gone 5-0. And in that second group, an elite team wins those as well, and a pretty good team should at least go 2-1. We lost in Brooklyn and Atlanta, their respective winning percentages are .381 and .262. You'd like to win the home games against good teams, but that was offset by the road win against a good team.

All in all, a 50ish win team should have gone 9-2 in that stretch.

(Not to be griping at you or anything. I'm sure you're as frustrated as me about the inconsistency.)
Split the difference and say 8-3 would have been nicer. I disagree that any team "should" go 9-2 over an 11-game game stretch.

Regardless of the schedule I'm pleased with the last 11 games overall. Think I'm going to start a positivity thread...

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I Second your opinion on the positivity thread. I have been down on the wiz but then i just looked at the record and thought...wait they are on par with last year, they are better than most of the league, we have two real studs, Kelly and Otto are pretty good and really young and we are ‘under achieving’ per the experts when we have a record on par with some of the elite teams...there is some good in that and some bad. I have been focused on the bad....when reality is we have a stock in a good company that has under performed but is primed to have good earnings...you DONT sell that stock...you buy while down and ride it out....I’m riding it out!
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Re: GT #42: Magic @ Wizards 7 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#88 » by CobraCommander » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:39 pm

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gravytrain24 wrote:Sounds about right, thanks for the recap. We're the wiz winning at the end of the first, I'm a fan of free fries from the mcd app.



Btw...while we are bemoaning the wizards for losing games ...the wiz are quietly 7-3 in the last 10. We just demand excellence !



Excellence is a far cry from just being above .500 against below .500 teams.


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Re: RE: Re: GT #42: Magic @ Wizards 7 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) 

Post#89 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:57 am

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
nate33 wrote:And 7-4 in their last 11.

5 of those 11 games were home games against sub-.500 teams. (record was 4-1)
3 of those 11 games were road games against sub-.500 teams. (record was 1-2)
2 of those 11 games were home games against good teams. (record was 1-1)
1 of those 11 games was a road game against a good team. (record was 1-0)

It's those first two groups that hurt. You have to beat all bad teams at home. Should have gone 5-0. And in that second group, an elite team wins those as well, and a pretty good team should at least go 2-1. We lost in Brooklyn and Atlanta, their respective winning percentages are .381 and .262. You'd like to win the home games against good teams, but that was offset by the road win against a good team.

All in all, a 50ish win team should have gone 9-2 in that stretch.

(Not to be griping at you or anything. I'm sure you're as frustrated as me about the inconsistency.)
Split the difference and say 8-3 would have been nicer. I disagree that any team "should" go 9-2 over an 11-game game stretch.

Regardless of the schedule I'm pleased with the last 11 games overall. Think I'm going to start a positivity thread...

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I Second your opinion on the positivity thread. I have been down on the wiz but then i just looked at the record and thought...wait they are on par with last year, they are better than most of the league, we have two real studs, Kelly and Otto are pretty good and really young and we are ‘under achieving’ per the experts when we have a record on par with some of the elite teams...there is some good in that and some bad. I have been focused on the bad....when reality is we have a stock in a good company that has under performed but is primed to have good earnings...you DONT sell that stock...you buy while down and ride it out....I’m riding it out!


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