Markelle Fultz Discussion III: For Fultz and going forward (see 2017 draft thread for trade discussion)

[svnty6rs3]

His poor mechanics is whenever he needs extra strength to shoot longer shots. Ouch!

The good thing here is you're seeing him shoot 3s, unlike before. So he's in the right direction.

Thats a good point. I think in preseason and first couple of games Brown was saying that Fultz didn't attempt any threes even in practice. So to see him attempting them in regular 1 on 1's versus just shooting drills is a good sign. He just needs to work through the early rust and build up the confidence in the shot which should come.

[Bum Adebayo]

When Fultz was in college, he wasn't really bombing from well beyond the three point line. I think there would have still been a pretty large adjustment on his shot either way.

Because he didn't have NBA 3pt range, that's why I predicted he would struggle from NBA 3 and that he is not a pure shooter like many said, his motion was not conductive to long distance shots. Probably a similar shooter to Ingram, who also had low FT% and toed the college 3pt line almost always.

[LongLiveHinkie]

What simple thing that was never "a thing" will plague the Sixers next? A player forgetting how to jump?

[76ciology]

His poor mechanics is whenever he needs extra strength to shoot longer shots. Ouch!

The good thing here is you're seeing him shoot 3s, unlike before. So he's in the right direction.

Thats a good point. I think in preseason and first couple of games Brown was saying that Fultz didn't attempt any threes even in practice. So to see him attempting them in regular 1 on 1's versus just shooting drills is a good sign. He just needs to work through the early rust and build up the confidence in the shot which should come.

Yeah. Thats why i told the media guys that they need to ask BB if he will allow Kelle to shoot 3s if open. Because I know BB wont allow guys to shoot 3s if they arent making it in practice. But then seems like the team showed the media kelle shooting 3s. And looks like BB wont allow him in game speed

[Foshan]

Spoiler:

What makes the Fultz situation look so bad now is that they probably could have gotten him at 3, the Celtics were clearly going to take Tatum no matter what, they just decided to fleece a sucker in the process. How much better would the Sixers look right now if Bryan could scout and traded down to take Donovan Mitchell


Colangelo is terrible

This is the wrong thread for this.

[carlquincy]

When weird **** happens to the same team over and over every year, it's probably not a coincidence. It's a trend. Our organization needs to get its act together, we typically deal with these kinds of issues horribly.

If every member of the "John Doe" family ended up getting shot every year, logic would tell you they probably are not that unlucky and someone's targeting the family.

The fact that a player every year is somehow mismanaged is a stain on this organization.

Agreed. Even worse is that nobody has been held accountable at all, as if it is normal.

If it makes you feel any better I think Ball is headed to be a bust. I think Fultz can still be a really good pro if he can simply revert back to what he's already done. Sixers may look better than the Lakers when all is said and done.

What a snake.

[the_process]

What simple thing that was never "a thing" will plague the Sixers next? A player forgetting how to jump?

It’s always something stupid with this franchise.

[XtremeDunkz]

This just doesn't make any sense to me man. I have't picked up a ball in a few months, but give me 20 minutes and ill start to feel my rhythm again. How does Fultz completely forget how to shoot a ball?

[76ciology]

This just doesn't make any sense to me man. I have't picked up a ball in a few months, but give me 20 minutes and ill start to feel my rhythm again. How does Fultz completely forget how to shoot a ball?

Forgot how to shoot/yips/mental:fake news=click bait

[Derento]

Agreed. Even worse is that nobody has been held accountable at all, as if it is normal.

If it makes you feel any better I think Ball is headed to be a bust. I think Fultz can still be a really good pro if he can simply revert back to what he's already done. Sixers may look better than the Lakers when all is said and done.

What a snake.

I'm not even a Sixers fan & I am offput from that guy's concern trolling.

[Jstock12]

He'll be fine. His form isn't the worst out there.

[Kolkmania]

Really direct response from BB saying that he'll play when he's able to actually shoot the basketball. I'm glad to be honest, playing him and having the opponent sag off him won't help him in terms of confidence, will downgrade his entire offense because defenders will have a much easier time defending him and most importantly not another player in the roster who can't shoot. No way that this Fultz will help the spacing for Ben.

One thing that really, really bothers me is the question how did we get to this point. Markelle most likely made an attempt in the summer to improve his shot, although I admire his work ethic it didn't work out.
Now after resting his shoulder they let him back on the court, why not completely rebuild the shot? How can you see him shooting like and think "well let's see what happens"? There's still a chance they actually are doing this and starting from close to the basket and slowly expanding his range, but if that's the case: COMMUNICATE.

[Slacktard]

He'll be fine. His form isn't the worst out there.

MKG's shot form is still bad, but it has improved a ton from that picture imo.

I don't know how someone ever would think to shoot that way. Its like if someone grew up on completely isolated, never saw another person ever or film and decided to shoot that way.

His shot was like the basketball equivalent of that old Star Trek episode where aliens found a human girl badly injured in a crash, but put her together all disfigured because they had no idea what a human looked like.

[Kolkmania]

His three point shooting looks absolutely horrendous, but I see an extremely weird thing with his FT shooting as well. At least he seems more comfortable taking them, but the angle his arms make with his body when the ball reaches the set point is the smallest I've ever(?) seen with a NBA player.


When you think about it makes kind of sense when you have a gigantic wingspan like Markelle Fultz and want the ball in front of your nose. The problem is that Fultz can't simply flex his elbow when he wan't to shoot, as you can see the ball would go straight to the ground. So in addition to the elbow flexion he has to lift his arms up from his shoulder, that's where the pushing motion is coming from. I can see the same thing happening with the three point shots.

[Foshan]

Spoiler:

Wow. Fultz without a jump shot of any kind, relevant to where he was picked is an absolute complete bust. Like Anthony Bennett level bust. Even worse because the Sixers not only gave up potential ROTY Tatum, possibly Porter, Bagley or Doncic as well.
All for a guy who now shoots like a 3rd grader. I was dead wrong on him (as were many of us). Hopefully we can luck out and get number one again.

Wrong thread.

[Foshan]

Spoiler:

What makes the Fultz situation look so bad now is that they probably could have gotten him at 3, the Celtics were clearly going to take Tatum no matter what, they just decided to fleece a sucker in the process. How much better would the Sixers look right now if Bryan could scout and traded down to take Donovan Mitchell


Colangelo is terrible

Big time. If Fultz plays and his shot is still broken Colangelo has to step down. The man was handed a team with buddings stars and a bunch of assets and still managed to balls it up.


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Wrong thread.

[Eyeamok]

The whole thing is just so sad. He was one of my favorite players in college, looked amazing, and even his jumper looked really good. Let's say it's the mechanic-change, why don't they/he just change it back? I don't understand, did one summer of repetition of the new jumper already replaced muscle memory? Didn't he shoot a decade+ the old way? This is why I would still believe the injury, because if he wasn't injured, wouldn't they just tell him to go back to the old mechanics?

Because that old jumper is clearly gone. It's gone from his muscle memory, or else he would've returned to it a long time ago. Who knows what happened? All we know is that jumper is gone, and he needs to rebuild a new one.

What the jumper is gone. If you do everything with your right hand and for a year your right hand is placed in a cast. When your hand comes out of the cast you don't forget how to use it. You have just become more proficient in using your left hand. A little bit of practice and you should be right back to using your right hand again. But if you just forget how to do anything with your right hand. It is not the injury it is the brain.

[Eyeamok]

And that article shows again how pathetic this org is.. now his soreness is still there???? After all his clips of his dog shizz looking shot and all the sudden theres paiqn again when they said he was pain free

Oh ur gona coach the hell out of him brett????? Is that what you call what you have been doing the last 6 months? Allowing him to make an absolute movkery of himself and this team? Excuse me but I dont want you anywhere near fultz coajing him or the rest of this team for that matter

They r gona lie with this injury the entire year, he is not gona play this year. I hope Silver steps in amd does something about the trash running this team

They are not lying there is pain involved with that shot. I know I feel pain when he shoots this way and many other people feel pain too. So yes there is plenty of pain to go around when Fultz shoots this way. It just not physical.

[Negrodamus]

Hmmm, Legler was on SVP Sportscenter and was saying that it could be a mix of the injury and a mental issue. Nothing really new, but it was discussed on a national level and they were really hammering home how it's a mental thing and might need to consider stripping it down and shutting him down for the season.

I'll double down on what I said back in Oct/Nov: If Fultz doesn't play this year, Colangelo needs to go before making any more decisions with assets. He left his #1 pick (a player he traded up for) to his own devices this summer and he chose to change his shot on his own time. That's on Bryan.

[XtremeDunkz]

lol if the kid sits the entire season with a mental issue I might end up with a mental issue of my own.