Trade Ideas (Part III)

CaptainCanada · Post #481 » by **CaptainCanada** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:25 am

Stillwater wrote:ATTN: NETS PICK IS OFF THE TABLE FOR ANYONE LESS THAN AN ALL NBA PLAYER ON A MULTIYEAR DEAL

Makes sense.

Post #482 » by **jbk1234** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:41 am

durka · Post #483 » by **durka** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:13 am

What do cavs fan think about a swap of TT plus cavs 1st for Biyombo? The salaries match and Biz really fills that rim protecting need you guys have.

Post #484 » by **jbk1234** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:29 am

durka wrote:What do cavs fan think about a swap of TT plus cavs 1st for Biyombo? The salaries match and Biz really fills that rim protecting need you guys have.

I don't understand why the Cavs are adding a 1st. They're equally bad contracts. Biz is the better rim protector but TT is the better PNR defender and can switch onto perimeter players.

Pelon chingon · Post #485 » by **Pelon chingon** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:08 pm

I still think Frye/shumpert for Hill and cavs 1st is realistic. Hill is still a good player but he's a more methodical probing type of guard that hasn't fit well with a kings team who has so many inexperienced players on the court at one time.

Jingles2 · Post #486 » by **Jingles2** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:34 pm

Robin Lopez and Bobby Portis for Crowder, Frye, Zizic, and a 2nd round pick.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yaxxeg8n

Post #487 » by **jbk1234** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:13 pm

Jingles2 wrote:Robin Lopez and Bobby Portis for Crowder, Frye, Zizic, and a 2nd round pick.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yaxxeg8n

I'd pass. This doesn't really do anything for us, we don't want Lopez and his salary, and we're shipping out three trade assets when our cupboards are pretty bare. If you want to talk about something around Portis alone, that's a discussion.

buzzkilloton · Post #488 » by **buzzkilloton** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:19 pm

Drummond/Bradley for Shump/TT/nets pick/next years 1st

Gives you guys 2 huge pieces to improve your team this season. Drummond/Love/Lebron/Bradley/Rose starting lineup ups your chances to win a title. Even if Lebron leaves you will now have some talent remaining.

Stillwater · Post #489 » by **Stillwater** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:09 pm

buzzkilloton wrote:Drummond/Bradley for Shump/TT/nets pick/next years 1st

Gives you guys 2 huge pieces to improve your team this season. Drummond/Love/Lebron/Bradley/Rose starting lineup ups your chances to win a title. Even if Lebron leaves you will now have some talent remaining.

Nope will give Crowder & Jose for Bradley
And a Detroit 2nd though.

Post #490 » by **jbk1234** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 4:21 pm

Stillwater wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:Drummond/Bradley for Shump/TT/nets pick/next years 1st

Gives you guys 2 huge pieces to improve your team this season. Drummond/Love/Lebron/Bradley/Rose starting lineup ups your chances to win a title. Even if Lebron leaves you will now have some talent remaining.

Nope will give Crowder & Jose for Bradley
And a Detroit 2nd though.

I wouldn't even give Crowder. People need to actually watch Bradley play this year and look at a stat sheet. He's playing really badly. He's barely shooting 40%, he's got an 11.0 per, and a significantly negative DPM. If he were on the Cavs, our fans would have him on the trade block right now.

Stillwater · Post #491 » by **Stillwater** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:33 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:Drummond/Bradley for Shump/TT/nets pick/next years 1st

Gives you guys 2 huge pieces to improve your team this season. Drummond/Love/Lebron/Bradley/Rose starting lineup ups your chances to win a title. Even if Lebron leaves you will now have some talent remaining.

Nope will give Crowder & Jose for Bradley
And a Detroit 2nd though.

I wouldn't even give Crowder. People need to actually watch Bradley play this year and look at a stat sheet. He's playing really badly. He's barely shooting 40%, he's got an 11.0 per, and a significantly negative DPM. If he were on the Cavs, our fans would have him on the trade block right now.

HMM good catch; his rebounding numbers have plummeted on a team with Andre and his scoring inside the arc has been pretty bad as well, but he's still shooting 40% from deep and his defense doesn't seem any less effective. IDK can't be much worse than Crowder but not worth the bother either.

Post #492 » by **jbk1234** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:37 pm

Stillwater wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:Nope will give Crowder & Jose for Bradley
And a Detroit 2nd though.

I wouldn't even give Crowder. People need to actually watch Bradley play this year and look at a stat sheet. He's playing really badly. He's barely shooting 40%, he's got an 11.0 per, and a significantly negative DPM. If he were on the Cavs, our fans would have him on the trade block right now.

HMM good catch; his rebounding numbers have plummeted on a team with Andre and his scoring inside the arc has been pretty bad as well, but he's still shooting 40% from deep and his defense doesn't seem any less effective. IDK can't be much worse than Crowder but not worth the bother either.

JR's DPM is -1.8. Bradley's is -1.3. That's with DeAndre Drummond playing behind him and not K. Love. At least Crowder has the excuse of playing out of position on most nights.

Stillwater · Post #493 » by **Stillwater** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:48 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
I wouldn't even give Crowder. People need to actually watch Bradley play this year and look at a stat sheet. He's playing really badly. He's barely shooting 40%, he's got an 11.0 per, and a significantly negative DPM. If he were on the Cavs, our fans would have him on the trade block right now.

HMM good catch; his rebounding numbers have plummeted on a team with Andre and his scoring inside the arc has been pretty bad as well, but he's still shooting 40% from deep and his defense doesn't seem any less effective. IDK can't be much worse than Crowder but not worth the bother either.

JR's DPM is -1.8. Bradley's is -1.3. That's with DeAndre Drummond playing behind him and not K. Love. At least Crowder has the excuse of playing out of position on most nights.

I guess no matter how you slice it he's having a bad year, but I question the fit as much as anything as well.

Stillwater · Post #494 » by **Stillwater** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:57 pm

Can't see the Cav's doing something like this if they want to gamble the Nets pick keeps climbing,(which is what I would do), but at minimum you get a reliable healthy pg who was an all star last year along with a rookie scale sg who can get buckets.
This would allow the Cav's to have 2 dynamic pg's or flip IT3 for a front court defender.
https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6995218
Charlotte gets the Nets pick top 3 protected, or if they can swing it, swap rights this year and the Cavs 2021 1st

Stillwater · Post #495 » by **Stillwater** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:42 pm

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6995262
Cav's send Nets pick unprotected & 2021 1st top 10 protected. New Orleans probably still says no, but this is the closest we could get imo to getting AD.
I really can't see the Cav's trading the pick without protection for much less, which basically equates to we aint trading the pick under most scenarios.

mackmack456 · Post #496 » by **mackmack456** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:50 am

Jingles2 wrote:Robin Lopez and Bobby Portis for Crowder, Frye, Zizic, and a 2nd round pick.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yaxxeg8n

Nikola Mirotic over Lopez. cavs need crowder. d.howard for TT and a pick might be a sleeper.

Tyson & brandan would help cavs reb/rim protect and Troy would make up for jr smith bad 3 point shooting . cavs at some point got bench him

Cavs suns memphis
Tyson chandler tristan-thompson ante-zizic
Brandan Wright channing-frye 2nd rd pick
Troy Daniels 1st round pick

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine

Post #497 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:26 am

mackmack456 wrote:
Jingles2 wrote:Robin Lopez and Bobby Portis for Crowder, Frye, Zizic, and a 2nd round pick.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yaxxeg8n

Nikola Mirotic over Lopez. cavs need crowder. d.howard for TT and a pick might be a sleeper.

Tyson & brandan would help cavs reb/rim protect and Troy would make up for jr smith bad 3 point shooting . cavs at some point got bench him

Cavs suns memphis
Tyson chandler tristan-thompson ante-zizic
Brandan Wright channing-frye 2nd rd pick
Troy Daniels 1st round pick

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine

Yeah the oldest team in the league isn't trading for Tyson Chandler. I'd rather hold onto TT.

Stillwater · Post #498 » by **Stillwater** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:35 pm

I think something like this could happen: https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6995763
So I don't like this idea per say because Howard moves Love back to the 4, but it seems that with Kemba now available we could swing a deal like this sending out swap rights on the Nets pick with Charlotte's own first for taking back Howard's massive contract & them taking on Swish for a year and a partial 2nd guaranteed. They would be getting Isaiah here so they are not getting the Nets pick without the swap rights. They get Tristan for a couple seasons who is young enough to be attractive for them going forward.

Dupp · Post #499 » by **Dupp** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:29 pm

Yeah I think getting favours or Dwight could really help

CaptainCanada · Post #500 » by **CaptainCanada** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:48 pm

Stillwater wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6995262
Cav's send Nets pick unprotected & 2021 1st top 10 protected. New Orleans probably still says no, but this is the closest we could get imo to getting AD.
I really can't see the Cav's trading the pick without protection for much less, which basically equates to we aint trading the pick under most scenarios.

Thats not happening. AD is untouchable.