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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread (FIBA Americas Aug 25 - Sep 3) 

Post#3961 » by mojo13 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:52 pm

frumble wrote:The February qualifying games (VI and Bahamas) are both on the road, right?

Anyone know if a location has been announced for the home games against DR and VI over the Canada Day weekend?

Thanks.


Yes. Feb are both on the road and June/July at home. I think Canada Basketball requested that under the assumption they could get some bigger NBA names for the June/July home games to help sell tickets.
I have seen no mention of the locations of the June/July games. I interestingly saw Canada Basketball's Twitter today boasting about the large crowd in Halifax - perhaps to drum up interest in potential hosts for June/July?
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread (FIBA Americas Aug 25 - Sep 3) 

Post#3962 » by Mirotic12 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:10 pm

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frumble wrote:The February qualifying games (VI and Bahamas) are both on the road, right?

Anyone know if a location has been announced for the home games against DR and VI over the Canada Day weekend?

Thanks.


Yes. Feb are both on the road and June/July at home. I think Canada Basketball requested that under the assumption they could get some bigger NBA names for the June/July home games to help sell tickets.
I have seen no mention of the locations of the June/July games. I interestingly saw Canada Basketball's Twitter today boasting about the large crowd in Halifax - perhaps to drum up interest in potential hosts for June/July?


Isn't Virgin Islands still too damaged from the hurricanes to host?
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread (FIBA Americas Aug 25 - Sep 3) 

Post#3963 » by mojo13 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:16 pm

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frumble wrote:The February qualifying games (VI and Bahamas) are both on the road, right?

Anyone know if a location has been announced for the home games against DR and VI over the Canada Day weekend?

Thanks.


Yes. Feb are both on the road and June/July at home. I think Canada Basketball requested that under the assumption they could get some bigger NBA names for the June/July home games to help sell tickets.
I have seen no mention of the locations of the June/July games. I interestingly saw Canada Basketball's Twitter today boasting about the large crowd in Halifax - perhaps to drum up interest in potential hosts for June/July?


Isn't Virgin Islands still too damaged from the hurricanes to host?


Very possible yes. But nothing has been confirmed has it? PR was the only team who had to switch venues in the Nov window. Playing a "Home" game in Orlando against the US.
Both USVIs November games were road games. Bahamas was able to host a home game in Nassau In Nov. vs the USVI. DR obviously hosted two home games as well. From what I can find the only venues announced in all of FIBA Americas for February are the USA's home games in Santa Cruz.

EDIT: I will correct myself. The DR/USVI game in Nov. was supposed to be a home game to USVI, but they switched it to an away game in DR because of hurricane damage. Very well could be that USVI is still unable to host Canada in Feb. It begs the question of do they swap it to an away game with CAN? Of play in a neutral sight (maybe the USA)?

ST. THOMAS — Ronnie Richards was looking forward to having the U.S. Virgin Islands senior men’s national basketball team finally play a game on home soil that meant something.

Instead, after hurricanes Irma and Maria, that plan has been put on hold, at least temporarily.

Officials confirmed Friday that the V.I. National Team’s first-round qualifying game for the FIBA Basketball World Cup 2019 next month has been shifted to an away game, and more games may be affected.

“Unfortunately, we went through those Category 5 hurricanes,” Richards, president of the USVI Basketball Federation, said in a telephone interview. “All the facilities and the hotels were totaled in this disaster. So we’ve had to move those games to away games.

“It’s disappointing, but God knows best. It’s something we didn’t have control over, so we can’t really question it. We’ve just got to decide what’s next and move on.”

The V.I.-Dominican Republic game was to have been played Nov. 24 at St. Croix’s Central High School gymnasium. But Richards said that the facility, which was undergoing work to bring it up to FIBA standards, was damaged during Hurricane Maria.

“We originally thought about playing the game on St. Croix because Paradise Jam had booked the UVI facility around the same time,” said Richards, referring to the annual men’s and women’s college basketball tournament held at the UVI Sports and Fitness Center on St. Thomas.

“We had been working hard to get Central up to date and up to par to host the game … but it’s terrible. A portion of the roof came off, so you can imagine what happened.”

According to Usie Richards, president of FIBA Americas, the destruction caused by the hurricanes in both the Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico forced basketball federation officials in both places to ask FIBA officials to make the scheduling change, at least for the first group-play games.

“Given those concerns, with the lack of communications, the ground transportation and hotel conditions, the federation also requested that we allow them to play that game away, then switch it back at a later date,” Richards said.

“We are focusing on making sure that we get all our games played in the November window. After that, we’ll continue our assessment, particularly in the U.S. Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico, about their ability to host games during the February window.”

Under FIBA’s new World Cup qualifying format, each of the group teams play six games during three “windows” over eight months, beginning in late November. The other game windows are in February 2018 and June 2018.

During each window, the teams would play one game on their home court, and one away. Over the six qualifying games, that would give each team three home games and three road games.

From the first-round qualifying games, the top seven teams advance to the second round, of which each team would be guaranteed two more home games.

The Virgin Islands was paired with the Bahamas, Canada and the Dominican Republic in Group D of the 16-team Americas qualifier. Puerto Rico was paired with defending World Cup champion and world No. 1 United States, Cuba and Mexico in Group C.

With the schedule change, both the V.I. and Puerto Rico national teams have back-to-back road games during the first qualifying game window.

The Virgin Islands will, instead of hosting the Dominican Republic on Nov. 24, play its qualifying game in Santiago, Dominican Republic. The V.I.-D.R. rematch is Feb. 25, although Ronnie Richards said the site for the game was still to be determined.

The Virgin Islands remaining games are against the Bahamas on Nov. 27 (away) and June 29 (home), and Canada on Feb. 22 (home) and July 2 (away).

Meanwhile, Puerto Rico was scheduled to host Team U.S.A. in its opening game on Nov. 23 in San Juan; that game will now be played on the U.S. mainland at a site to be determined.

The Puerto Rico-United States rematch will now be played Feb. 26 in Puerto Rico, but the site had not been determined.

Puerto Rico’s remaining games are against Cuba on Nov. 26 (away) and June 28 (home), and against Mexico on Feb. 23 (away) and July 1 (home).

USVI senior teams move up in rankings

The success of the Virgin Islands’ senior men’s and senior women’s national teams over the summer led to a big jump for both teams in FIBA’s world rankings, which were updated earlier this month.

The USVI men’s team climbed to No. 51 in the rankings, up eight spots — the biggest upward move by an Americas zone team, and 13th most among the 149 teams in the rankings.

Meanwhile, the Virgin Islands women had an even bigger move, from No. 50 to a tie for 35th with Colombia.

The V.I.’s 15-spot climb was the most among the 79 teams in the FIBA world rankings.

The upward moves came from the V.I.’s men finishing fourth in the 2017 FIBA AmeriCup tournament in Argentina, while the V.I. women won the FIBA CentroBasket Women’s 2017 tournament and finished fifth at the 2017 FIBA Women’s AmeriCup tournament.

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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread (FIBA Americas Aug 25 - Sep 3) 

Post#3964 » by Hair Canada » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:55 pm

mojo13 wrote:
Top 25 Power Rankings – Canadian Professionals

14. Aaron Doornekmap – underrated 3&D role player. Improved his game significantly over the last three years. Many people here hate the guy, but he has gotten much better and has that gritty, low usage, high efficiency glue guy game that teams need.


One interesting thing about Doornekamp: He plays 23 minutes a game for Valencia, but in 17 games has not once scored in double digits. On the other hand, his production is one of the more consistent I've seen. in 13 of these games, he scored between 6 and 9 points (ten games with 8 or 9 points). Seems like the definition of mediocre stability (not very good shooting percentage). In any case, at 32 I think he's on his way down and is unlikely to play for team Canada in the future.
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread (FIBA Americas Aug 25 - Sep 3) 

Post#3965 » by mojo13 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:21 pm

Hair Canada wrote:
mojo13 wrote:
Top 25 Power Rankings – Canadian Professionals

14. Aaron Doornekmap – underrated 3&D role player. Improved his game significantly over the last three years. Many people here hate the guy, but he has gotten much better and has that gritty, low usage, high efficiency glue guy game that teams need.


One interesting thing about Doornekamp: He plays 23 minutes a game for Valencia, but in 17 games has not once scored in double digits. On the other hand, his production is one of the more consistent I've seen. in 13 of these games, he scored between 6 and 9 points (ten games with 8 or 9 points). Seems like the definition of mediocre stability (not very good shooting percentage). In any case, at 32 I think he's on his way down and is unlikely to play for team Canada in the future.


I'm not so sure about that. We are very thin at SF and he would easily be one of our better players on the last version the WC Qualifier team (November). I'd love to have him on the Feb. team (EL and FIBA are still negotiating releasing EL guys to play - but likely won't happen for Feb). Even when the NBA guys show up this summer, when I doubt we get more than 50% participation (injuries, FA, other excuses) he could (should?) see his way on that team.

He has improved drastically the last few years, moving up caliber of teams and leagues every year for the last three years. Admittedly this year he seemingly has fallen off a bit. That could be regression from age as you point out (even though he is a late bloomer) or it could be hitting a ceiling with he higher competition level or it could be the role he is being asked to play by Valencia (or their system). I give him allot of props for him working his way to the ACB, leading a mid grade ACB team to their best results in a number of years and then moving up to an EL team.

Last year he was great for Tenerife in the ACB - Across 35 games 12.5 ppg 57% FG%, with 2.5 made threes a game, on 43% 3pt%, not to mention solid peripheral stats. Similar numbers in 20 BCL games where he was a BCL First team all-star along with Melvin Ejim. I think he is still better than his comps in Pierre and T. Scrubb and maybe about the same as Ejim (who I'm not sold on as a SF). Funny thing is I am not sure any of those guys are really SFs, but Doornekamp could easily be the best SF of the group.

With full Canadian turnout who would be a better SF? An out of position Wiggins.... Brooks, but who else? Stauskas? Guess it depends on match-ups and team mates. But I am not even sure we have one true SF in our top 30 pool of players. I suppose that becomes Brooks.
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread (FIBA Americas Aug 25 - Sep 3) 

Post#3966 » by mojo13 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:53 pm

Khem Birch is playing in the G-League showcase. Today he had another great game in a win versus Memphis.
16 points (7-12), 9 rbds (4 off), 3 blocks and 6 assists (yes I said 6 assists).



Interesting highlights. He has always had the rep of near zero offense outside of ally-oops and putbacks. But he seems to be growing he offensive repertoire with some post moves and close to basket drives. Even a top of the key jumper.
Also looked like he had more than three blocks.

I really feel he is going to catch on full time in the NBA and carve out a rotational role.
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread (FIBA Americas Aug 25 - Sep 3) 

Post#3967 » by TooBad » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:20 pm

mojo13 wrote:
Hair Canada wrote:
mojo13 wrote:
Top 25 Power Rankings – Canadian Professionals

14. Aaron Doornekmap – underrated 3&D role player. Improved his game significantly over the last three years. Many people here hate the guy, but he has gotten much better and has that gritty, low usage, high efficiency glue guy game that teams need.


One interesting thing about Doornekamp: He plays 23 minutes a game for Valencia, but in 17 games has not once scored in double digits. On the other hand, his production is one of the more consistent I've seen. in 13 of these games, he scored between 6 and 9 points (ten games with 8 or 9 points). Seems like the definition of mediocre stability (not very good shooting percentage). In any case, at 32 I think he's on his way down and is unlikely to play for team Canada in the future.


I'm not so sure about that. We are very thin at SF and he would easily be one of our better players on the last version the WC Qualifier team (November). I'd love to have him on the Feb. team (EL and FIBA are still negotiating releasing EL guys to play - but likely won't happen for Feb). Even when the NBA guys show up this summer, when I doubt we get more than 50% participation (injuries, FA, other excuses) he could (should?) see his way on that team.

He has improved drastically the last few years, moving up caliber of teams and leagues every year for the last three years. Admittedly this year he seemingly has fallen off a bit. That could be regression from age as you point out (even though he is a late bloomer) or it could be hitting a ceiling with he higher competition level or it could be the role he is being asked to play by Valencia (or their system). I give him allot of props for him working his way to the ACB, leading a mid grade ACB team to their best results in a number of years and then moving up to an EL team.

Last year he was great for Tenerife in the ACB - Across 35 games 12.5 ppg 57% FG%, with 2.5 made threes a game, on 43% 3pt%, not to mention solid peripheral stats. Similar numbers in 20 BCL games where he was a BCL First team all-star along with Melvin Ejim. I think he is still better than his comps in Pierre and T. Scrubb and maybe about the same as Ejim (who I'm not sold on as a SF). Funny thing is I am not sure any of those guys are really SFs, but Doornekamp could easily be the best SF of the group.

With full Canadian turnout who would be a better SF? An out of position Wiggins.... Brooks, but who else? Stauskas? Guess it depends on match-ups and team mates. But I am not even sure we have one true SF in our top 30 pool of players. I suppose that becomes Brooks.


Brooks is the only true SF we have but both Wiggins and Lyles could play there.
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread (FIBA Americas Aug 25 - Sep 3) 

Post#3968 » by aminiaturebuddha » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:39 am

TooBad wrote:
mojo13 wrote:
Hair Canada wrote:
One interesting thing about Doornekamp: He plays 23 minutes a game for Valencia, but in 17 games has not once scored in double digits. On the other hand, his production is one of the more consistent I've seen. in 13 of these games, he scored between 6 and 9 points (ten games with 8 or 9 points). Seems like the definition of mediocre stability (not very good shooting percentage). In any case, at 32 I think he's on his way down and is unlikely to play for team Canada in the future.


I'm not so sure about that. We are very thin at SF and he would easily be one of our better players on the last version the WC Qualifier team (November). I'd love to have him on the Feb. team (EL and FIBA are still negotiating releasing EL guys to play - but likely won't happen for Feb). Even when the NBA guys show up this summer, when I doubt we get more than 50% participation (injuries, FA, other excuses) he could (should?) see his way on that team.

He has improved drastically the last few years, moving up caliber of teams and leagues every year for the last three years. Admittedly this year he seemingly has fallen off a bit. That could be regression from age as you point out (even though he is a late bloomer) or it could be hitting a ceiling with he higher competition level or it could be the role he is being asked to play by Valencia (or their system). I give him allot of props for him working his way to the ACB, leading a mid grade ACB team to their best results in a number of years and then moving up to an EL team.

Last year he was great for Tenerife in the ACB - Across 35 games 12.5 ppg 57% FG%, with 2.5 made threes a game, on 43% 3pt%, not to mention solid peripheral stats. Similar numbers in 20 BCL games where he was a BCL First team all-star along with Melvin Ejim. I think he is still better than his comps in Pierre and T. Scrubb and maybe about the same as Ejim (who I'm not sold on as a SF). Funny thing is I am not sure any of those guys are really SFs, but Doornekamp could easily be the best SF of the group.

With full Canadian turnout who would be a better SF? An out of position Wiggins.... Brooks, but who else? Stauskas? Guess it depends on match-ups and team mates. But I am not even sure we have one true SF in our top 30 pool of players. I suppose that becomes Brooks.


Brooks is the only true SF we have but both Wiggins and Lyles could play there.


There are probably also quite a few matchups against teams in international ball where we'd be able to get away with a 3-guard lineup. I'm not sure how it would be at the 2019 World Cup, but certainly in the past couple of Americas/AmeriCup tournaments, there were a number of games where this wouldn't have put us at a disadvantage at all. Joseph/Murray/Wiggins or Pangos/Stauskas/Brooks or Murray/Stauskas/Wiggins lineups would be just fine against most competition.

And even if one of Wiggins or Brooks isn't available, by 2019 Justin Jackson or Oshae Brissett might be ready for a 10-minute a game backup role. I'm not too worried about our SF depth at this point.
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread (FIBA Americas Aug 25 - Sep 3) 

Post#3969 » by aminiaturebuddha » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:42 am

mojo13 wrote:Khem Birch is playing in the G-League showcase. Today he had another great game in a win versus Memphis.
16 points (7-12), 9 rbds (4 off), 3 blocks and 6 assists (yes I said 6 assists).



Interesting highlights. He has always had the rep of near zero offense outside of ally-oops and putbacks. But he seems to be growing he offensive repertoire with some post moves and close to basket drives. Even a top of the key jumper.
Also looked like he had more than three blocks.

I really feel he is going to catch on full time in the NBA and carve out a rotational role.


That block at about the 1:05 mark of the video shows the kind of disruptive defensive talent he's always had. He goes straight up on a driving defender, who tries to adjust and bring the ball down and around his arms, and Birch adjusts in mid-air and still gets the block. That's some elite rim protection right there.
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread (FIBA Americas Aug 25 - Sep 3) 

Post#3970 » by Hair Canada » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:12 am

aminiaturebuddha wrote:
TooBad wrote:
mojo13 wrote:
I'm not so sure about that. We are very thin at SF and he would easily be one of our better players on the last version the WC Qualifier team (November). I'd love to have him on the Feb. team (EL and FIBA are still negotiating releasing EL guys to play - but likely won't happen for Feb). Even when the NBA guys show up this summer, when I doubt we get more than 50% participation (injuries, FA, other excuses) he could (should?) see his way on that team.

He has improved drastically the last few years, moving up caliber of teams and leagues every year for the last three years. Admittedly this year he seemingly has fallen off a bit. That could be regression from age as you point out (even though he is a late bloomer) or it could be hitting a ceiling with he higher competition level or it could be the role he is being asked to play by Valencia (or their system). I give him allot of props for him working his way to the ACB, leading a mid grade ACB team to their best results in a number of years and then moving up to an EL team.

Last year he was great for Tenerife in the ACB - Across 35 games 12.5 ppg 57% FG%, with 2.5 made threes a game, on 43% 3pt%, not to mention solid peripheral stats. Similar numbers in 20 BCL games where he was a BCL First team all-star along with Melvin Ejim. I think he is still better than his comps in Pierre and T. Scrubb and maybe about the same as Ejim (who I'm not sold on as a SF). Funny thing is I am not sure any of those guys are really SFs, but Doornekamp could easily be the best SF of the group.

With full Canadian turnout who would be a better SF? An out of position Wiggins.... Brooks, but who else? Stauskas? Guess it depends on match-ups and team mates. But I am not even sure we have one true SF in our top 30 pool of players. I suppose that becomes Brooks.


Brooks is the only true SF we have but both Wiggins and Lyles could play there.


There are probably also quite a few matchups against teams in international ball where we'd be able to get away with a 3-guard lineup. I'm not sure how it would be at the 2019 World Cup, but certainly in the past couple of Americas/AmeriCup tournaments, there were a number of games where this wouldn't have put us at a disadvantage at all. Joseph/Murray/Wiggins or Pangos/Stauskas/Brooks or Murray/Stauskas/Wiggins lineups would be just fine against most competition.

And even if one of Wiggins or Brooks isn't available, by 2019 Justin Jackson or Oshae Brissett might be ready for a 10-minute a game backup role. I'm not too worried about our SF depth at this point.


Yes, the young fellas include quite a few guys with potential to play minutes in this position: Jackson, Brissett, Barrett, Akot, Brezdaikis, Kigab, maybe even Simi. In just a few years there should be no problem at all.
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread (FIBA Americas Aug 25 - Sep 3) 

Post#3971 » by mojo13 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:09 pm

Nice 16/10/11 triple double by XRM in the G League showcase last night.
http://gleague.nba.com/games/20180112/WESACC/

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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread (FIBA Americas Aug 25 - Sep 3) 

Post#3972 » by TheFutureMM » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:26 am

Shai with another big game against Vanderbilt - 22/4/6 on 7-11 shooting.



Still really curious to see if he goes out for the draft this year. He's one of the few guys who I would say should stay another year and try to get more physically ready for the pros - he makes and takes a lot of shots at a really slow speed that probably wouldn't fly at the next level. Obviously if he gets a first round guarantee then take it...
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Post#3973 » by Derento » Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:07 am

I really like Jamal Murray's game & think offensive impact he brings is a large bit greater than his assists/3P%
I've been following him a bit since he was a prep & he's always been streaky but the pressure he creates on the court is great.
I think the arc of his jumpshot lends to this.
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Post#3974 » by Hair Canada » Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:52 am

TheFutureMM wrote:Shai with another big game against Vanderbilt - 22/4/6 on 7-11 shooting.



Still really curious to see if he goes out for the draft this year. He's one of the few guys who I would say should stay another year and try to get more physically ready for the pros - he makes and takes a lot of shots at a really slow speed that probably wouldn't fly at the next level. Obviously if he gets a first round guarantee then take it...


I think SGA will be fine when he gets to the NBA. Not a star, but a valuable contributor. Yes, he's not overly fast or athletic (although I think he has some deceptive athleticism that is better than what it might look), but very skillful, deceptive, long, and most importantly, has the right character. As for another year in college, I'm not sure. Mainly I'm not sure if he has the body type that can put much extra weight and get much stronger. He'll certainly get more experience, but he already has a pretty mature game. And in a team like Kentucky, he might have competition for minutes next year. So, I think if he has a chance to be drafted in the first round next year, he should take it. Depends a lot on how this year continues for him and for the team.

Speaking of college, Wigginton just scored 27 and 30 in two consecutive games. He hasn't always been consistent, but overall shoots the 3 very well and is doing better than I expected. He's still a scorer SG in the body of a PG, Lou Williams should be the model.

One last guy that we never mention here -- Joseph Chartouny from Montreal, a senior playing at Fordham. A talented PG, who has not shown much improvement this season from the last two years, but has one area he really excels at: He leads Division 1 in steals. I think last year he finished 2nd or 3rd in the NCAA in steals and this year he's at the top right now. Shows it's not a fluke. Hope he can keep this up.
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread (FIBA Americas Aug 25 - Sep 3) 

Post#3975 » by mojo13 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:40 pm

Well Naz Long didn't last long in Utah. Waived today so the Jazz could sign his ex-ISU teammate George Niang.
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/865695051/Utah-Jazz-sign-Georges-Niang-to-two-way-deal-after-waiving-college-teammate.html

Well I was a little surprised he was signed in the first place. He is a rook and got good exposure with this, probably learned something of value and probably upped his perceived value. I assume he stays with the Jazz, but back to the G (has to clear waivers though).
Mitrou-Long appeared in one game for the Jazz, logging a 3-pointer in a minute against Denver on Dec. 26. The 24-year-old guard averages 15.3 points, 5.9 rebounds and 3.9 assists for the G-League SLC Stars.

Naz could go down as the highest PER of all time for an NBA player (136.97). That there is some infamy.
http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2990968/naz-mitrou-long

Saw that the Lakers signed PG Gary Payton II which likely puts Ennis on more thin ice. With two PGs as two way players, I am pretty sure the Lakers are shopping Ennis. I've heard Belineli for Brewer/Ennis repeatedly. EDIT: It seems Lonzo's knee is still acting up, so maybe this is a real depth add and Ennis will get an extended expanded role. Most Laker fans don't see Ennis as much of a NBA player.


Trey Burke signed with the Knicks - helps XRM a bit I assume.

Also noticed ASVEL (Tony Parker owned team) fired JD Jackson, and promotes TJ Parker (Tony's brother) as head coach. That is some solid nepotism. Anyways Jackson has had a long successful coaching career in Europe - do we ever talk about about him as a one day national team coach? He once played for Team Canada - no idea if he has been involved in the last few years.
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.20minutes.fr/sport/2202123-20180115-pro-jd-jackson-limoge-asvel-tony-parker-installe-frere-tj-jusqu-fin-saison&prev=search
After winning the French league championship in 2016 the fans were out for Jackson's head this year. ASVEL is a .500 team with the biggest budget in the French League and looking to move into the EuroLeague next year with EL expansion. From the article it seems the GM recruited a bunch of highly paid, but mismatched talent. Jackson couldn't make the pieces fit and is the fall guy.

Finally - an interesting read on the oddities of the Chinese CBA.
http://www.eurohoops.net/en/trademarks/594178/china-not-perfect-caper-anymore/
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread (FIBA Americas Aug 25 - Sep 3) 

Post#3976 » by aminiaturebuddha » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:58 am

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One last guy that we never mention here -- Joseph Chartouny from Montreal, a senior playing at Fordham. A talented PG, who has not shown much improvement this season from the last two years, but has one area he really excels at: He leads Division 1 in steals. I think last year he finished 2nd or 3rd in the NCAA in steals and this year he's at the top right now. Shows it's not a fluke. Hope he can keep this up.


Another point guard we haven't talked about much here is Trae Bell-Haynes, a senior at Vermont. He started the season a little slow, as he was battling injuries, but he's really come on lately, leading Vermont to 7 straight wins. He might be another guy that the national program should keep in mind in future years for depth purposes for some of those qualifying games.

Also, we haven't spoken about Nate Darling since he was part of that U19 championship team last summer, but he's having a decent sophomore season at UAB, with solid improvements in almost every statistical category from his freshman year. Another guy that likely won't ever play a game in the NBA (or maybe even G-league), but could be a useful depth SG for the program.
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread (FIBA Americas Aug 25 - Sep 3) 

Post#3977 » by mojo13 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:19 pm

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Hair Canada wrote:
One last guy that we never mention here -- Joseph Chartouny from Montreal, a senior playing at Fordham. A talented PG, who has not shown much improvement this season from the last two years, but has one area he really excels at: He leads Division 1 in steals. I think last year he finished 2nd or 3rd in the NCAA in steals and this year he's at the top right now. Shows it's not a fluke. Hope he can keep this up.


Another point guard we haven't talked about much here is Trae Bell-Haynes, a senior at Vermont. He started the season a little slow, as he was battling injuries, but he's really come on lately, leading Vermont to 7 straight wins. He might be another guy that the national program should keep in mind in future years for depth purposes for some of those qualifying games.

Also, we haven't spoken about Nate Darling since he was part of that U19 championship team last summer, but he's having a decent sophomore season at UAB, with solid improvements in almost every statistical category from his freshman year. Another guy that likely won't ever play a game in the NBA (or maybe even G-league), but could be a useful depth SG for the program.



Thanks - Trae and Chartouny are lesser known names for me and it is good to see what they are doing. Gotta remember that guys at this age can develop a tonne and names that were not highly regarded in high school can really come into their own in college (Olynyk, Sacre, Nicholson).

Speaking of that what do you guys know about Kassius Robertson of Missouri? I am starting to see more about him - he had a big game against Arkansas last weak ((26 points) and is averaging 15.4ppg, 1.9rpg and 2.2apg. I really have no idea about him. I do see he is a 23 year old grad transfer out of Cannisius, so his upside is likely not that high.I believe he is about 6'3 and a SG, who is dropping about 3 threes a game on 44% 3pt shooting.

I also keep seeing Adika Peter-McNeilly's (ex-Ryerson) name in these weekly reports:
http://www.usbasket.com/Canada/news/519518/Andrew-Rautins-selected-the-top-Canadian-playing-abroad-in-last-week's-games
He seems to be putting up pretty good stats for a rookie (24 yrs old) in the German BBL (first division) for MHP RIESEN Ludwigsburg (8.1ppg, 2.3rpg and 1.3apg). He has them 12-4 in the BBL and 8-2 in the FIBA Champions League (so they are a pretty decent team). He seems like one to watch for the SMNT. Can anyone tell us much about him? I don't follow the CIS at all and never heard of him until this year.
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread (FIBA Americas Aug 25 - Sep 3) 

Post#3978 » by Hair Canada » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:31 am

mojo13 wrote:
aminiaturebuddha wrote:
Hair Canada wrote:
One last guy that we never mention here -- Joseph Chartouny from Montreal, a senior playing at Fordham. A talented PG, who has not shown much improvement this season from the last two years, but has one area he really excels at: He leads Division 1 in steals. I think last year he finished 2nd or 3rd in the NCAA in steals and this year he's at the top right now. Shows it's not a fluke. Hope he can keep this up.


Another point guard we haven't talked about much here is Trae Bell-Haynes, a senior at Vermont. He started the season a little slow, as he was battling injuries, but he's really come on lately, leading Vermont to 7 straight wins. He might be another guy that the national program should keep in mind in future years for depth purposes for some of those qualifying games.

Also, we haven't spoken about Nate Darling since he was part of that U19 championship team last summer, but he's having a decent sophomore season at UAB, with solid improvements in almost every statistical category from his freshman year. Another guy that likely won't ever play a game in the NBA (or maybe even G-league), but could be a useful depth SG for the program.



Thanks - Trae and Chartouny are lesser known names for me and it is good to see what they are doing. Gotta remember that guys at this age can develop a tonne and names that were not highly regarded in high school can really come into their own in college (Olynyk, Sacre, Nicholson).

Speaking of that what do you guys know about Kassius Robertson of Missouri? I am starting to see more about him - he had a big game against Arkansas last weak ((26 points) and is averaging 15.4ppg, 1.9rpg and 2.2apg. I really have no idea about him. I do see he is a 23 year old grad transfer out of Cannisius, so his upside is likely not that high.I believe he is about 6'3 and a SG, who is dropping about 3 threes a game on 44% 3pt shooting.

I also keep seeing Adika Peter-McNeilly's (ex-Ryerson) name in these weekly reports:
http://www.usbasket.com/Canada/news/519518/Andrew-Rautins-selected-the-top-Canadian-playing-abroad-in-last-week's-games
He seems to be putting up pretty good stats for a rookie (24 yrs old) in the German BBL (first division) for MHP RIESEN Ludwigsburg (8.1ppg, 2.3rpg and 1.3apg). He has them 12-4 in the BBL and 8-2 in the FIBA Champions League (so they are a pretty decent team). He seems like one to watch for the SMNT. Can anyone tell us much about him? I don't follow the CIS at all and never heard of him until this year.


Kassius has been one of the best Canadian scorers in the NCAA over the last couple of years. Not very tall, but an excellent shooter with great elevation on his shot, who can also drive to the basket pretty well. Not very tall and can't really play PG, so as you say not likely NBA material (he's almost 24 already), but definitely should be part of the larger roster for team Canada when the NBA guys don't show up. I think this year he's made very good progress actually. It doesn't really show in his stats, but he moved from a mid-major (Cannisius) to a high-major (Missouri), so he's playing at a higher level and manages to do just as well if not better. By the way, he was supposed to play with Michael Porter, but after porter was injured, Kassius captured the leading scorer and best player position. Still, too bad Porter is out for the season, because with him Missouri would have gotten much more attention and scouts might have paid greater attention to Kassius, especially come March. Would have probably also gotten more open shots.

Haven't seen too much of Peter-McNeill, but from what I've seen he's a quick CG with a strong built and a decent outside shot, although nothing spectacular (very good three throw shooter though). Was one of the best players in the U sport during his last couple of years in Ryerson. Worth keeping an eye on him. Right now, he's not at the level of Scrubb, Pangos or XRM, but could still be developing. Thing is that in two or three years we should have significantly greater depth at the guard position with the classes of 2017-18, so not sure he'll ever get a chance at the national team.

Nice to see thought that Andy Rautins is still going strong. Such a fantastic shooter. By the way, he has a (much) younger brother, Sam, who is a high school senior at Athlete Institute. Similar height and game. Also a great shooter with veyr quick release and when he gets hot, he's automatic. Can have a similar career I think. Too bad they didn't inherit father Leo's height. wouldn't be surprised if Sam ends up in Syracuse, continuing the family tradition.
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread (FIBA Americas Aug 25 - Sep 3) 

Post#3979 » by Hair Canada » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:38 am

Khem Birch with career highs in minutes (19), points (12), rebounds (10) and blocks (4). Former records were 7, 4, 3, and 0 respectively. Talk about a career night! Also helped Orlando to a surprising win over the Timberwolves. Should get more chances.
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Re: Team Canada Basketball Thread (FIBA Americas Aug 25 - Sep 3) 

Post#3980 » by mojo13 » Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:26 am

Hair Canada wrote:Khem Birch with career highs in minutes (19), points (12), rebounds (10) and blocks (4). Former records were 7, 4, 3, and 0 respectively. Talk about a career night! Also helped Orlando to a surprising win over the Timberwolves. Should get more chances.


I am been advocating for him so long that I kinda feel like a proud Papa.
Attaboy Khem, great to see. Keep working hard. He seems like a good fit in today’s NBA as a high efficiency, rim runner, who can protect the hoop and quick enough to switch on everyone on defense. Kind of a Clint Capela type. Maybe a better defensive version of Dwight Powell and TT? I’m still wary of Khem’s ability to defend a bigger post player one on one, but maybe that matters less and less going forward. Plus he has put on allot of muscle the last couple years.

Also good to see the hardcore Magic fans online have been harping on Khem getting minutes all season.

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