Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 2)

macd-gm · Post #1601 » by **macd-gm** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:40 pm

I'm all for bringing back young prospects for Dedmon. Why not?

Now what's this about Thon developing into an MVP calibre player? :eek1:

jayu70 · Post #1602 » by **jayu70** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:43 pm

macd-gm wrote:I'm all for bringing back young prospects for Dedmon. Why not?

Now what's this about Thon developing into an MVP calibre player?

didn't have the heart to comment on that.

Spud2nique · Post #1603 » by **Spud2nique** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:10 pm

jayu70 wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:http://www.givemesport.com/1237538-is-it-possible-for-a-team-to-sign-a-player-to-too-small-of-a-contract

Givemesports??
What's the suggested asking price for Dedmon?
What are the trade suggestions?

I don't know the source or anything I just stuck it up here...it didn't go through our typical airport security system here Bird..that checks for crap in articles...shiiiii if that was he case there would be no ESPN articles either because they are full of caca too.

Spud2nique · Post #1604 » by **Spud2nique** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:11 pm

jayu70 wrote:
macd-gm wrote:I'm all for bringing back young prospects for Dedmon. Why not?

Now what's this about Thon developing into an MVP calibre player?

didn't have the heart to comment on that.

No you had the heart, you just wiffed on it.

jayu70 · Post #1605 » by **jayu70** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:16 pm

Spud2nique wrote:
jayu70 wrote:
macd-gm wrote:I'm all for bringing back young prospects for Dedmon. Why not?

Now what's this about Thon developing into an MVP calibre player?

didn't have the heart to comment on that.

No you had the heart, you just wiffed on it.

Don't wanna be rude on another teams board, they frown on that, gets you a quick and easy ban, so I was on my best behaviour.

King Ken · Post #1606 » by **King Ken** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:05 am

I'll say this. Over the last 20 games, Bazemore has been our best player and it's not even close. Offensively, defensively, he's not making the super boneheaded decisions anymore and trying to carry the team when that's just not his game. He is playing within himself. He actually is playing like his contract shows.

jayu70 · Post #1607 » by **jayu70** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:11 am

King Ken wrote:I'll say this. Over the last 20 games, Bazemore has been our best player and it's not even close. Offensively, defensively, he's not making the super boneheaded decisions anymore and trying to carry the team when that's just not his game. He is playing within himself. He actually is playing like his contract shows.

I would say most consistent player. He isn't pressing and doing this

aaaahh mush....headless chicken gif doesn't wanna play

Post #1608 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:55 pm

Read on Twitter

Dewayne Dedmon, C (Hawks): Dedmon looks like a prudent investment for teams targeting centers. With an increased role in Atlanta this season, Dedmon is enjoying a career year, posting 10.8 PPG and 7.8 RPG. And after attempting just one three-pointer in his first four NBA seasons, Dedmon has made 16 of 39 (41.0%) from outside in 2017/18. Although he missed 19 games with a left tibia stress reaction, Dedmon is back on the court now, and at $6MM, his cap hit makes him an attractive target for contenders with potential luxury-tax concerns and a need at center, such as the Cavaliers and Bucks. The only downside is that his $6.3MM player option for 2018/19 means he’ll probably opt out this summer and would be a rental for any club acquiring him.

Ersan Ilyasova, PF (Hawks): Ilyasova has a reasonable $6MM cap charge for this season, and will be eligible for unrestricted free agency this summer. However, Ilyasova figures to receive interest from teams looking for a different sort of skill set — he won’t offer much rim protection or rebounding for a big man, but Ilyasova’s ability to shoot three-pointers (.393 3PT% this season) is valuable for a club looking to stretch the floor and give another frontcourt player more room to operate down low. A return to the Sixers might make some sense for Ilyasova. I could also see him fitting in with the Thunder in the role that Patrick Patterson has struggled to fill.

Marco Belinelli, SG (Hawks): teams in need of outside shooting may prefer a backcourt option like Belinelli over a stretch four like Ilyasova. The Italian swingman has been as effective as ever from three-point range this year, making 39.2% of his attempts. At $6.6MM, Belinelli is yet another Hawk with an affordable expiring deal, and I expect him to be on the move in the coming weeks if Atlanta can extract a solid second-round pick from a trade partner.

King Ken · Post #1609 » by **King Ken** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:31 am

Most teams lack the salary for a trade with any of these three.

Post #1610 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:40 pm

Read on Twitter

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tbhawksfan1 · Post #1611 » by **tbhawksfan1** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:24 pm

This is a rare chance at a top pick season for the Hawks

macd-gm · Post #1612 » by **macd-gm** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:08 pm

Our top 5 lineups in minutes played, by far the most effective lineup is Dennis/Baze/Prince/Babbit/Dedmon. It's a shame Luke got hurt because he was really playing well.

Post #1613 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:22 am

Read on Twitter

Make note of the writer of the article.

To dump Bazemore and get that Brooklyn pick, I'd take in whatever terrible contracts were needed to get it done.

Tristan, JR....

jayu70 · Post #1614 » by **jayu70** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:51 am

Jamaaliver wrote:

Read on Twitter

Make note of the writer of the article.

To dump Bazemore and get that Brooklyn pick, I'd take in whatever terrible contracts were needed to get it done.

Tristan, JR....

Rowland quoting David Aldridge. Article also says...

The Cavaliers have made it clear all year that they don’t want to and don’t intend to the trade the Brooklyn pick (they do have their own 2018 first-round pick they could include in a deal), in part because they have no idea whether James -- who can opt out of his deal and enter free agency this summer -- will return next season. James hasn’t given them any indication of what he’s going to do, and it’s possible he may not know yet. But Cleveland can’t leave itself with nothing.

http://www.nba.com/article/2018/01/22/cleveland-cavaliers-koby-altman-lebron-james-future-2018-trade-deadline?collection=david-aldridge#/

Post #1615 » by **ATL Boy** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:52 am

Just yes to sending Bazemore to the Cavs. Do whatever it takes to get that Nets pick.

Give them Bazemore, Dedmon, whatever other vet they want (Bellineli? Ilyasova?), take back Thompson and one of JR or Shumpert. Just swindle that Nets pick from them. This would be the type of deal which accelerates a rebuild.

kg01 · Post #1616 » by **kg01** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:12 am

It appropriately says in the article though that the BKN pick isn't even on the table. Trading that pick for a player like Bazemore would be akin to GM suicide.

Altman can sell hanging onto the pick even if it ultimately angers James to the point where he'd leave. He absolutely cannot sell trading that pick for Bazemore.

I'd imagine they're trying to fleece us by selling the farce of Thompson or whoever else is acceptable value for our guys. A farce I'm sure not even gm-Budz would've fallen for.

Interesting smoke in that article though considering it's Aldridge reporting.

Spud2nique · Post #1617 » by **Spud2nique** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:39 am

Jamaaliver wrote:

Read on Twitter

Make note of the writer of the article.

To dump Bazemore and get that Brooklyn pick, I'd take in whatever terrible contracts were needed to get it done.

Tristan, JR....

Dilly dilly to Jamal for making us click on his, I mean DA's article... :lol:

King Ken · Post #1618 » by **King Ken** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:43 am

kg01 wrote:It appropriately says in the article though that the BKN pick isn't even on the table. Trading that pick for a player like Bazemore would be akin to GM suicide.

Altman can sell hanging onto the pick even if it ultimately angers James to the point where he'd leave. He absolutely cannot sell trading that pick for Bazemore.

I'd imagine they're trying to fleece us by selling the farce of Thompson or whoever else is acceptable value for our guys. A farce I'm sure not even gm-Budz would've fallen for.

Interesting smoke in that article though considering it's Aldridge reporting.

I doubt it smoke, Cleveland is trying to get better players. I just don't see a move that makes sense with them. Every deal they can offer us could hinder us next year which is what I am more worried about than anything else. If they had an offer that was like two Channing Frye expiring and a late 2nd for Bazemore. I would do it. But I am not feeling Shump or Smith. If this is going to be a contract trade, you need to offer nothing but expiring deals.

King Ken · Post #1619 » by **King Ken** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:45 am

ATL Boy wrote:Just yes to sending Bazemore to the Cavs. Do whatever it takes to get that Nets pick.

Give them Bazemore, Dedmon, whatever other vet they want (Bellineli? Ilyasova?), take back Thompson and one of JR or Shumpert. Just swindle that Nets pick from them. This would be the type of deal which accelerates a rebuild.

They aren't trading the only value they got for Kyrie for Bazemore and to get rid of that contract. If so, I would take the deal as much as you guys will.

Spud2nique · Post #1620 » by **Spud2nique** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:00 am

We need a ménage a trois with the Cavs!