Trae Young

[Duke4life831]

you have to understand that he is a freshman if you think its easy even upperclassman is fighting tooth and nail . the talent they is not good enough at all compared to other conference teams. Trae young is the difference maker for their team even Bagley is getting support from others remember that duke game against MSU bagley didnt play and yet they won . . remove trae young to this team i doubt they beat that oregon team in pk10.

You seriously hate the comparison being made to young because of how good steph curry is now but you forget to realize that curry's competition in college is not even close. sure curry beat some good teams during their march madness run but he wasnt shooting lights out the entire run. Trae young is doing this as a freshman come on

I'm not trying to take anything away from what Young is doing. Without a doubt the dude is having a huge impact on the team and they wouldn't be a top 10 team without him, the dude has been a beast. My negatives with Young come directly to his level of a NBA prospect. I'm not sold that his game is going to translate all that well against NBA competition. I have seen a steady drop off of his play since entering conference play and that doesn't surprise me, that happens to most players because the quality of the average opponent is much better. Again I just have major doubts on his game translating to the NBA, that is all I'm saying. I think Young is a great college player and I thought he was going to be one before the season (obviously not to this extent this quickly).

I hate the Curry comparisons because Curry is able to do what he's able to do because he's an exception to the rule. I dislike most comparisons to all time greats or people with all time great skill levels because they're usually the exception to the rule. Curry is probably the greatest shooter of all time, plus he has some of the greatest handles of all time and he's a really good finisher at the rim. For Young to be the next Curry, you're basically saying he needs to become one of the greatest shooters of all time, cause there is a fine line between Curry and some spark plug 6th man. For Young to have this kind of shot selection he better become an all time great shooter and find other ways to score against elite athleticism, I'm not sure that happens.

[HEZI]

Everything about Young's game points to him translating and having success in the NBA. His style and his abilities are exactly what the NBA is about nowadays. If the NBA was just about tall guards with athletic ability then guys like Emmanuel Mudiay would be having a lot more success and a guy like Lou Williams wouldn't be dropping 23 PPG.

[nolang1]

Another way of looking at it is that Trae won't be depended on doing everything in the NBA, which would mean less turnovers and less bad shots. He's everything for Oklahoma this season and he managed to take a 11-20 team to 14-3 so far.

Last year Oklahoma played the 2nd-toughest schedule in the country, lost 8 games by 5 points or fewer, and brought everyone back except the point guard that Young replaced (and added another freshman who's started every game). Not as massive a turnaround as simply comparing the records makes it seem.

Young is good enough that you can evaluate him on his own merits without having to pretend he joined this downtrodden team. Their next five highest guys in three-point attempts after Young were shooting 44, 43, 38, 41, and 40 percent going into tonight; that's good no matter who's setting you up. OU was 39th in the country in adjusted defensive efficiency last season, and given the number of minutes returning they've got some competent defenders surrounding Young.

Who cares if it's not "as massive" of a turnaround? It's a sizable turnaround nonetheless. They went from a clear losing team to a clear winning team, ranked #4 in the nation. The jump in three point shooting of the supporting cast has a lot to do with the attention Trae draws.

The whole point is they were not a clear losing team. Oklahoma was a few bounces away from being an 18-win NCAA tournament team last year, and they were the 9th best team in a conference that had 7 teams ranked in the top 30 by KenPom rankings and the 8th place team ranked 42nd. OU was #65, better than quite a few power conference schools that had winning records.

Trae Young is leading the country in scoring and assists as a freshman. Those are much simpler things you can look at to point out that he's good than citing the crappy AP poll or simply looking at a team's won-loss record without factoring in the competition and margin of victory to make some narrative that he miraculously turned around a program that made the Final Four two seasons ago.

[DroseReturnChi]

you have to understand that he is a freshman if you think its easy even upperclassman is fighting tooth and nail . the talent they is not good enough at all compared to other conference teams. Trae young is the difference maker for their team even Bagley is getting support from others remember that duke game against MSU bagley didnt play and yet they won . . remove trae young to this team i doubt they beat that oregon team in pk10.

You seriously hate the comparison being made to young because of how good steph curry is now but you forget to realize that curry's competition in college is not even close. sure curry beat some good teams during their march madness run but he wasnt shooting lights out the entire run. Trae young is doing this as a freshman come on

I'm not trying to take anything away from what Young is doing. Without a doubt the dude is having a huge impact on the team and they wouldn't be a top 10 team without him, the dude has been a beast. My negatives with Young come directly to his level of a NBA prospect. I'm not sold that his game is going to translate all that well against NBA competition. I have seen a steady drop off of his play since entering conference play and that doesn't surprise me, that happens to most players because the quality of the average opponent is much better. Again I just have major doubts on his game translating to the NBA, that is all I'm saying. I think Young is a great college player and I thought he was going to be one before the season (obviously not to this extent this quickly).

I hate the Curry comparisons because Curry is able to do what he's able to do because he's an exception to the rule. I dislike most comparisons to all time greats or people with all time great skill levels because they're usually the exception to the rule. Curry is probably the greatest shooter of all time, plus he has some of the greatest handles of all time and he's a really good finisher at the rim. For Young to be the next Curry, you're basically saying he needs to become one of the greatest shooters of all time, cause there is a fine line between Curry and some spark plug 6th man. For Young to have this kind of shot selection he better become an all time great shooter and find other ways to score against elite athleticism, I'm not sure that happens.

Well if you hate the Curry comparisons dont bother participating in the Trae Young thread. No one knows how Trae Young will pan out and everyones entitled to their own opinion. And if you followed the NBA long enough, you should be able to realize the best shooters were all surpassed by the later generations. It used to be Reggie Miller then Ray Allen. Now Steph Curry took over Allen as the undisputed best shooter in the history books. Trae Young very well has the potential to surpass Curry as a shooter since he's putting up record stats in pretty much all categories. And he's doing this as a freshman. He deserves to be in the conversation for carrying a weakling OU team that barely has any star power by himself to a top 10 team unlike some garbage Fultz guy.

[Duke4life831]

you have to understand that he is a freshman if you think its easy even upperclassman is fighting tooth and nail . the talent they is not good enough at all compared to other conference teams. Trae young is the difference maker for their team even Bagley is getting support from others remember that duke game against MSU bagley didnt play and yet they won . . remove trae young to this team i doubt they beat that oregon team in pk10.

You seriously hate the comparison being made to young because of how good steph curry is now but you forget to realize that curry's competition in college is not even close. sure curry beat some good teams during their march madness run but he wasnt shooting lights out the entire run. Trae young is doing this as a freshman come on

I'm not trying to take anything away from what Young is doing. Without a doubt the dude is having a huge impact on the team and they wouldn't be a top 10 team without him, the dude has been a beast. My negatives with Young come directly to his level of a NBA prospect. I'm not sold that his game is going to translate all that well against NBA competition. I have seen a steady drop off of his play since entering conference play and that doesn't surprise me, that happens to most players because the quality of the average opponent is much better. Again I just have major doubts on his game translating to the NBA, that is all I'm saying. I think Young is a great college player and I thought he was going to be one before the season (obviously not to this extent this quickly).

I hate the Curry comparisons because Curry is able to do what he's able to do because he's an exception to the rule. I dislike most comparisons to all time greats or people with all time great skill levels because they're usually the exception to the rule. Curry is probably the greatest shooter of all time, plus he has some of the greatest handles of all time and he's a really good finisher at the rim. For Young to be the next Curry, you're basically saying he needs to become one of the greatest shooters of all time, cause there is a fine line between Curry and some spark plug 6th man. For Young to have this kind of shot selection he better become an all time great shooter and find other ways to score against elite athleticism, I'm not sure that happens.

Well if you hate the Curry comparisons dont bother participating in the Trae Young thread. No one knows how Trae Young will pan out and everyones entitled to their own opinion. And if you followed the NBA long enough, you should be able to realize the best shooters were all surpassed by the later generations. It used to be Reggie Miller then Ray Allen. Now Steph Curry took over Allen as the undisputed best shooter in the history books. Trae Young very well has the potential to surpass Curry as a shooter since he's putting up record stats in pretty much all categories. And he's doing this as a freshman. He deserves to be in the conversation for carrying a weakling OU team that barely has any star power by himself to a top 10 team unlike some garbage Fultz guy.

Nah Im still going to participate in this thread. All Im saying with the Curry thing is, a major reason Curry is who he is, is because he is an all time great shooter. In my opinion the only way Young becomes a star on the NBA level playing the way he is currently playing is if he also becomes an all time great shooter. Im not willing to bet that Young becomes an all time great shooter, which is why I am not as high on Young as many others, I think its pretty simple.

And again Im a fan of Young on the college level and think he has made a huge impact, but are you really trying to compare the OU's roster and Washington's roster last year with Futlz? OU has 3 guys shooting over 40% from 3, a guy shooting 39% and their worst 3pt shooter is shooting 36%. That is 5 legit shooters not including Young. Young is also playing on an experienced team that had an extremely tough schedule last year and are returning all of their top players except for 1. Fultz on the other hand joined a team that lost its 3 best players from a team that wasnt that good to begin with, Fultz had 0 help from teammates compared to what Young has in OU.

This is by no way me saying that Young isnt the main reason for the turn around in OU, I think he is having an effect similar to Lonzo Ball in UCLA and you can go back to the Lonzo threads to see how big of an impact I thought he had. But there is no reason to exaggerate the situation and even try to compare it to Fultz's situation.

[dred926]

You also have to understand that Trae young is a marked man already unlike curry during his run they only learn about Curry because of the dance and Kansas put a clamp on Curry and his run ended shooting 9-25 and only dished out 4 assist .

Each game they are trying to emulate what WV has done to Young on the other hand Curry had the liberty to roam around because there were other ball handlers on his team. while Trae Young is grinding it each game. Young may not reach curry level shooting however as a playmaker he is way better than Steph Curry

[dred926]

I'm not trying to take anything away from what Young is doing. Without a doubt the dude is having a huge impact on the team and they wouldn't be a top 10 team without him, the dude has been a beast. My negatives with Young come directly to his level of a NBA prospect. I'm not sold that his game is going to translate all that well against NBA competition. I have seen a steady drop off of his play since entering conference play and that doesn't surprise me, that happens to most players because the quality of the average opponent is much better. Again I just have major doubts on his game translating to the NBA, that is all I'm saying. I think Young is a great college player and I thought he was going to be one before the season (obviously not to this extent this quickly).

I hate the Curry comparisons because Curry is able to do what he's able to do because he's an exception to the rule. I dislike most comparisons to all time greats or people with all time great skill levels because they're usually the exception to the rule. Curry is probably the greatest shooter of all time, plus he has some of the greatest handles of all time and he's a really good finisher at the rim. For Young to be the next Curry, you're basically saying he needs to become one of the greatest shooters of all time, cause there is a fine line between Curry and some spark plug 6th man. For Young to have this kind of shot selection he better become an all time great shooter and find other ways to score against elite athleticism, I'm not sure that happens.

Well if you hate the Curry comparisons dont bother participating in the Trae Young thread. No one knows how Trae Young will pan out and everyones entitled to their own opinion. And if you followed the NBA long enough, you should be able to realize the best shooters were all surpassed by the later generations. It used to be Reggie Miller then Ray Allen. Now Steph Curry took over Allen as the undisputed best shooter in the history books. Trae Young very well has the potential to surpass Curry as a shooter since he's putting up record stats in pretty much all categories. And he's doing this as a freshman. He deserves to be in the conversation for carrying a weakling OU team that barely has any star power by himself to a top 10 team unlike some garbage Fultz guy.

Nah Im still going to participate in this thread. All Im saying with the Curry thing is, a major reason Curry is who he is, is because he is an all time great shooter. In my opinion the only way Young becomes a star on the NBA level playing the way he is currently playing is if he also becomes an all time great shooter. Im not willing to bet that Young becomes an all time great shooter, which is why I am not as high on Young as many others, I think its pretty simple.

And again Im a fan of Young on the college level and think he has made a huge impact, but are you really trying to compare the OU's roster and Washington's roster last year with Futlz? OU has 3 guys shooting over 40% from 3, a guy shooting 39% and their worst 3pt shooter is shooting 36%. That is 5 legit shooters not including Young. Young is also playing on an experienced team that had an extremely tough schedule last year and are returning all of their top players except for 1. Fultz on the other hand joined a team that lost its 3 best players from a team that wasnt that good to begin with, Fultz had 0 help from teammates compared to what Young has in OU.

This is by no way me saying that Young isnt the main reason for the turn around in OU, I think he is having an effect similar to Lonzo Ball in UCLA and you can go back to the Lonzo threads to see how big of an impact I thought he had. But there is no reason to exaggerate the situation and even try to compare it to Fultz's situation.

no one thought that Curry would be all time great shooter that is the reason why he wasnt drafted higher because he was just a shooter that time handles yes but its not that great at all coming into NBA.

Trae young however already posses one of the best handles in college basketball right now.
To say that a 19 year old cant improve his shot is crazy because he is a shooter already its not like he doesnt have the tools to be a great one....

[grubs10]

no one thought that Curry would be all time great shooter that is the reason why he wasnt drafted higher because he was just a shooter that time handles yes but its not that great at all coming into NBA.

Trae young however already posses one of the best handles in college basketball right now.
To say that a 19 year old cant improve his shot is crazy because he is a shooter already its not like he doesnt have the tools to be a great one....

You clearly have a dog in this fight. But just because Curry grew from a great three point shooter to the greatest does not mean Trae Young will. Just like many really good three point shooters in college haven't turned into all-time great three point shooters. The numbers are on his side of the argument not yours. And while he never said its not possible for Trae to turn into an all-time great shooter, he is saying that if he doesn't turn into one then he is a marginal NBA point guard.

[AJ3]

Why does he have this many turnovers?

[Duke4life831]

Well if you hate the Curry comparisons dont bother participating in the Trae Young thread. No one knows how Trae Young will pan out and everyones entitled to their own opinion. And if you followed the NBA long enough, you should be able to realize the best shooters were all surpassed by the later generations. It used to be Reggie Miller then Ray Allen. Now Steph Curry took over Allen as the undisputed best shooter in the history books. Trae Young very well has the potential to surpass Curry as a shooter since he's putting up record stats in pretty much all categories. And he's doing this as a freshman. He deserves to be in the conversation for carrying a weakling OU team that barely has any star power by himself to a top 10 team unlike some garbage Fultz guy.

Nah Im still going to participate in this thread. All Im saying with the Curry thing is, a major reason Curry is who he is, is because he is an all time great shooter. In my opinion the only way Young becomes a star on the NBA level playing the way he is currently playing is if he also becomes an all time great shooter. Im not willing to bet that Young becomes an all time great shooter, which is why I am not as high on Young as many others, I think its pretty simple.

And again Im a fan of Young on the college level and think he has made a huge impact, but are you really trying to compare the OU's roster and Washington's roster last year with Futlz? OU has 3 guys shooting over 40% from 3, a guy shooting 39% and their worst 3pt shooter is shooting 36%. That is 5 legit shooters not including Young. Young is also playing on an experienced team that had an extremely tough schedule last year and are returning all of their top players except for 1. Fultz on the other hand joined a team that lost its 3 best players from a team that wasnt that good to begin with, Fultz had 0 help from teammates compared to what Young has in OU.

This is by no way me saying that Young isnt the main reason for the turn around in OU, I think he is having an effect similar to Lonzo Ball in UCLA and you can go back to the Lonzo threads to see how big of an impact I thought he had. But there is no reason to exaggerate the situation and even try to compare it to Fultz's situation.

no one thought that Curry would be all time great shooter that is the reason why he wasnt drafted higher because he was just a shooter that time handles yes but its not that great at all coming into NBA.

Trae young however already posses one of the best handles in college basketball right now.
To say that a 19 year old cant improve his shot is crazy because he is a shooter already its not like he doesnt have the tools to be a great one....

We aren't disagreeing on why Curry's draft stock wasn't higher. I agree that a lot of the same questions being asked about Young were asked about Curry. But just because Curry became an all time great shooter doesn't mean those questions about him weren't legit at the time. And again Curry became the exception to the rule. I've also never stated Young can't become an all time great shooter like Curry. I just said I'm not willing to bet that he becomes another exception to the rule like Curry.

I've also said that I think Young's handles are really good and I've never said he can't improve. Again I just think he needs to become a Curry like shooter to be effective on the NBA level, since we have really only seen one person reach that level, I'm not going to take Young over some of these other elite prospects in this draft.

[The-Power]

Why does he have this many turnovers?

It's pretty simple: teams are scouting him well, doing everything to take him out of rhythm and Young doesn't really know how to adjust yet. What worked earlier in the season just doesn't work anymore – partially because of the increased scouting of his game, partially because he's facing more talented teams these days.

Last night, Young obviously had a horrible game. Yet you could still see why he's become a highly-touted NBA prospect. Defenses are totally focused on containing him by all means necessary, including frequent double teams, traps, picking him up at half court and sending very early help defense. It's great because that's exactly what he'll have to be able to do at the NBA level to become a great and dominant offensive force.

What's not great is that he hasn't been able to adjust to it, he hasn't been able to leverage this nearly enough. His off-ball game comes and goes, his passes are overambitious against good defenses, he's way too confident when dribbling into crowded areas, and his shot selection is horrible at times even for someone with a justifiable green light.

Basically, he's shifting defenses as much as we could possibly hope for, but his way of exploiting that is just not good enough right now and leads to many bad possessions. But I'm not too worried yet. Defenses are keying in on him and he's simply not used to defenses this good, long and athletic trying everything to contain him and as a result, he struggles with turnovers and shot selection. This is nothing to be surprised by.

But, and I want to be very clear on that: he'll have to show improvements over the next months. Each game can be a valuable lesson for him if he's able and willing to learn from them. He got the first step that I wanted to see from him – he changes how defenses play his team completely. That's great. But the first step is useless without the second one, namely finding ways to exploit that consistently. He'll have to show that he's capable of doing that by March or else his draft stock will drop. But there are a lot of games to be played until then, so I'll wait and see how he responds to the adversity before the final ranking.

[HEZI]

So expectations for Trae Young are now Curry or bust?

How's that even fair? I get the comparisons because they have a similar style of play, it's obvious to see why he gets compared to Curry, but that comparison should just end there really. He doesn't have to become the next Steph Curry to have success in the NBA. He just needs to become the best version of himself.

[916fan]

So expectations for Trae Young are now Curry or bust?

How's that even fair? I get the comparisons because they have a similar style of play, it's obvious to see why he gets compared to Curry, but that comparison should just end there really. He doesn't have to become the next Steph Curry to have success in the NBA. He just needs to become the best version of himself.

No one expects him to be the next Curry, but lots of supporters keep going back to that comparison which I think doesn't make any sense. However, Young going #1 is reliant on him being able to do all the things he does now at OU, in the NBA. Can he do those same things? We don't know. That's what this entire discussion is about. Mostly whether or not his game will translate over. It's extremely rare that we see a 19yearold as skilled as he already is, but we're getting that with Young.

[WestGOAT]

Trae Young is doing what Curry did in college, while being a better playmaker, as a FRESHMAN. It's no insult to Curry at all for Trae Young to be compared to him. If Trae Young will follow a similar trajectory is another story, but it's a fact that Trae Young is at least as good as Curry was in college, and most likely even better.

[HEZI]

So expectations for Trae Young are now Curry or bust?

How's that even fair? I get the comparisons because they have a similar style of play, it's obvious to see why he gets compared to Curry, but that comparison should just end there really. He doesn't have to become the next Steph Curry to have success in the NBA. He just needs to become the best version of himself.

No one expects him to be the next Curry, but lots of supporters keep going back to that comparison which I think doesn't make any sense. However, Young going #1 is reliant on him being able to do all the things he does now at OU, in the NBA. Can he do those same things? We don't know. That's what this entire discussion is about. Mostly whether or not his game will translate over. It's extremely rare that we see a 19yearold as skilled as he already is, but we're getting that with Young.

I think the comparison does make sense for two reasons

1. Style of play is very similar
2. Stats in college are very similar

I see no problem in comparing the two when it comes to those two things. When it comes to NBA success however, that's a different story. Curry landed in the absolute best situation and it allowed him to become who he is and have the success he's had. Imagine if Curry landed in Sacramento or Minnesota, would he really be who he is now? Golden State put the right pieces around him, not just in terms of players but also the system and a coach that allows him to be who he is. There are coaches that wouldn't have tolerated his shot selection, so who knows how good he would have been if he never landed in GS. This is why Oklahoma is having the success they are having because Lon Kruger allows Young to be who he is. If Young goes to a program like Louisville for example, he would have to play a completely different way. He needs to be in the right situation in the NBA also.

[dred926]

Nah Im still going to participate in this thread. All Im saying with the Curry thing is, a major reason Curry is who he is, is because he is an all time great shooter. In my opinion the only way Young becomes a star on the NBA level playing the way he is currently playing is if he also becomes an all time great shooter. Im not willing to bet that Young becomes an all time great shooter, which is why I am not as high on Young as many others, I think its pretty simple.

And again Im a fan of Young on the college level and think he has made a huge impact, but are you really trying to compare the OU's roster and Washington's roster last year with Futlz? OU has 3 guys shooting over 40% from 3, a guy shooting 39% and their worst 3pt shooter is shooting 36%. That is 5 legit shooters not including Young. Young is also playing on an experienced team that had an extremely tough schedule last year and are returning all of their top players except for 1. Fultz on the other hand joined a team that lost its 3 best players from a team that wasnt that good to begin with, Fultz had 0 help from teammates compared to what Young has in OU.

This is by no way me saying that Young isnt the main reason for the turn around in OU, I think he is having an effect similar to Lonzo Ball in UCLA and you can go back to the Lonzo threads to see how big of an impact I thought he had. But there is no reason to exaggerate the situation and even try to compare it to Fultz's situation.

no one thought that Curry would be all time great shooter that is the reason why he wasnt drafted higher because he was just a shooter that time handles yes but its not that great at all coming into NBA.

Trae young however already posses one of the best handles in college basketball right now.
To say that a 19 year old cant improve his shot is crazy because he is a shooter already its not like he doesnt have the tools to be a great one....

We aren't disagreeing on why Curry's draft stock wasn't higher. I agree that a lot of the same questions being asked about Young were asked about Curry. But just because Curry became an all time great shooter doesn't mean those questions about him weren't legit at the time. And again Curry became the exception to the rule. I've also never stated Young can't become an all time great shooter like Curry. I just said I'm not willing to bet that he becomes another exception to the rule like Curry.

I've also said that I think Young's handles are really good and I've never said he can't improve. Again I just think he needs to become a Curry like shooter to be effective on the NBA level, since we have really only seen one person reach that level, I'm not going to take Young over some of these other elite prospects in this draft.

steph curry entered the nba at 21 years old. he was not that great to begin with it took him 3 years in the nba to be the shooter that he is now. To say that young will never improve is cray because he has shown he has the range at age of 19 and yet here you are claiming that he may not reach steph curry level yes he might not but an improved version of what he is now is really close to curry.

people is bashing trae young because he is taking ill advised shots to bring his team back whenver everyone else is struggling. on the games they lost brady manek was almost a non factor as well as mcgusty those 2 guys are the best shooters outside trae young.

so let me ask you this what if trae young is not curry level and its 2 notch down but he is clearly the better playmaker isnt that going to be a stud?

also please define the curry level shooter because in your post it seems like he is alone and not even klay thompson is on his level.

Please rate your current nba top 10 shooters and where does trae young project?

[Duke4life831]

no one thought that Curry would be all time great shooter that is the reason why he wasnt drafted higher because he was just a shooter that time handles yes but its not that great at all coming into NBA.

Trae young however already posses one of the best handles in college basketball right now.
To say that a 19 year old cant improve his shot is crazy because he is a shooter already its not like he doesnt have the tools to be a great one....

We aren't disagreeing on why Curry's draft stock wasn't higher. I agree that a lot of the same questions being asked about Young were asked about Curry. But just because Curry became an all time great shooter doesn't mean those questions about him weren't legit at the time. And again Curry became the exception to the rule. I've also never stated Young can't become an all time great shooter like Curry. I just said I'm not willing to bet that he becomes another exception to the rule like Curry.

I've also said that I think Young's handles are really good and I've never said he can't improve. Again I just think he needs to become a Curry like shooter to be effective on the NBA level, since we have really only seen one person reach that level, I'm not going to take Young over some of these other elite prospects in this draft.

steph curry entered the nba at 21 years old. he was not that great to begin with it took him 3 years in the nba to be the shooter that he is now. To say that young will never improve is cray because he has shown he has the range at age of 19 and yet here you are claiming that he may not reach steph curry level yes he might not but an improved version of what he is now is really close to curry.

people is bashing trae young because he is taking ill advised shots to bring his team back whenver everyone else is struggling. on the games they lost brady manek was almost a non factor as well as mcgusty those 2 guys are the best shooters outside trae young.

so let me ask you this what if trae young is not curry level and its 2 notch down but he is clearly the better playmaker isnt that going to be a stud?

also please define the curry level shooter because in your post it seems like he is alone and not even klay thompson is on his level.

Please rate your current nba top 10 shooters and where does trae young project?

Again who is making the argument that Young will never improve? And no I do not think just an improved version of Young right now is really close to Curry. I think Young needs to get much better at taking care of the ball, he needs to drastically improve his finishing ability, her needs to improve his mid range game and he needs to become an overall better shooter and he needs smarter shot selection. Again Young is shooting 40/37/77 and has an 8:7 assist to turnover ratio so far against Big 12 competition. Curry right now is shooting 49/42/92 and has a 2:1 assist to turnover ratio so far this year against NBA competition. I don't think there is just a little gap between the two, there is a massive gap. And people aren't only bashing Young for the shots he takes late in games when he has to take bad shots to keep his team in games, people like myself have been questioning his shot selection way before he went to OU.

Like I've stated before the way Curry plays, there is a very fine line from being a great player to a rotation player. If Curry was just a good shooter and could only make deep 3s but at an average rate and really wasn't a threat anywhere else on the court, guess what he wouldn't have the green light like he has now and he would probably be in a role similar to a Lou Williams or Jamal Crawford.

And yes I have Curry alone on his level as a shooter. Guys like Klay, JJ and Korver are also great shooters but non are close to the threat that Curry is off the dribble. I don't get what rating my top 10 NBA shooters will do. But I will say Young is a really good shooter off the dribble but overall shooter I probably still have Hield, Murray and Kennard over him as shooting prospects that have come out in the last few drafts.

[dred926]

murray? hield needed 4 years to be that good and he isnt even lighting up the nba. korver might be better than curry catch and shoot wise.

none of the players youve mentioned can give a pass like this

[FNQ]

So has Trae officially jumped into the extremely large tier 1 of this draft? Ayton, Bagley, Porter, Doncic, Bamba, and now Trae.. if all stay in and healthy, that's the top 6 picks right? Not in that order obviously, but still..

[Duke4life831]

murray? hield needed 4 years to be that good and he isnt even lighting up the nba. korver might be better than curry catch and shoot wise.

none of the players youve mentioned can give a pass like this

Jamal Murray out of Kentucky. I never said any of these guys are lighting it up in the NBA, these are the guys that I thought were better overall shooters than Young coming out of college. And its not like Hield has been bad in the NBA shooting the 3, he shot 39% his rookie year, 43% when he got traded to SAC and 43% again this year form 3.

And I never claimed any of those guys are as good as passers as Young. But its not like Young is lighting the world on fire with his passing either. The dude is averaging 8 assists a game to 7 turnovers a game so far in conference play. Yes he can make some nice passes, but he also makes some really dumb passes as well. I find something like what Lonzo did last year passing much more impressive than what Young is doing this year, even though Young averages more assists a game compared to Lonzo last year.