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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVII 

Post#961 » by gtn130 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:20 pm

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Pointgod wrote:No reputable news source is reporting anything about the Fisa courts. Only the usual right wing garbage sites.

LOL, there's about 15 sitting Congressmen tweeting about it right now. It's legit. No "reputable" (meaning in-the-tank for Democrats) news sources are reporting it because they know how badly it damages Democrats.

This is really big stuff. Basically, Obama's DOJ, the Clinton campaign, and the FBI illegally surveilled Trump (and probably other candidates) in the election by utilizing NSA database queries without a warrant. They then laundered that illegally obtained intelligence through back channels to Fusion GPS, who helped Christopher Steele write the dossier using information from that illegally obtained NSA data. It was that dossier, laundered to appear like it was legitimate, independent intelligence, that was then used to mislead the FISA court into obtaining a FISA warrant so that they could legally surveill Trump.

This makes Watergate look like a picnic. The Obama Administration permitted NSA surveillance to be weaponized against a political opponent. You don't have to believe me. It's going to come out eventually. People are going to go to jail for this.


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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVII 

Post#962 » by cammac » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:22 pm

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Pointgod wrote:No reputable news source is reporting anything about the Fisa courts. Only the usual right wing garbage sites.

LOL, there's about 15 sitting Congressmen tweeting about it right now. It's legit. No "reputable" (meaning in-the-tank for Democrats) news sources are reporting it because they know how badly it damages Democrats.

This is really big stuff. Basically, Obama's DOJ, the Clinton campaign, and the FBI illegally surveilled Trump (and probably other candidates) in the election by utilizing NSA database queries without a warrant. They then laundered that illegally obtained intelligence through back channels to Fusion GPS, who helped Christopher Steele write the dossier using information from that illegally obtained NSA data. It was that dossier, laundered to appear like it was legitimate, independent intelligence, that was then used to mislead the FISA court into obtaining a FISA warrant so that they could legally surveill Trump.

Dear Nate you conveniently forget well lets be truthful hide that the initial investigation was brought on by information referred by a American Allie Australia. About conversations overheard by a top Australian Diplomat by Papadopoulos. What a few nondescript congressmen tweet in a repudiated house investigation who's chairman grovels in front of Trump and does his bidding is highly questionable. In this investigation the only credible investigation is being done by Mueller the House is one is a laughing stalk political from both sides of isle. The Senate one while more credible is slow moving.
This makes Watergate look like a picnic. The Obama Administration permitted NSA surveillance to be weaponized against a political opponent. You don't have to believe me. It's going to come out eventually. People are going to go to jail for this.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVII 

Post#963 » by gtn130 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:26 pm

You MAGA derpers realize all these congress critters talking about THE MEMO literally just reauthorized all the FISA stuff right? Their outrage here is totally fake
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Post#964 » by gtn130 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:27 pm

Read on Twitter


Majority of Americans strongly disapprove of Trump.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVII 

Post#965 » by Ruzious » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:31 pm

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cammac wrote:
The Surgeon who did triple bypass was born in Lebanon immigrated to Canada at 11 and my Surgeon who put in pacemaker is Canadian born but Hong Kong parents. Multiracial staff working in harmony. People who are against immigration are idiots.


I join others with my thoughts and prayers cammac. Best wishes for a full recovery.


Popper, the house got full scope today. Obama, DOJ/FBI dirty as all hell.

#realeasethememo wow!!!! The entire house got the full briefing today from FBI. Wow!!

Just wondering what goes on in your head that led you to post that in response to cammac's situation? Do you even understand my question? At this point, I'm not posting to criticise, because you are what you are, and I assume that will never change. The psychology issues here have become more interesting than the political discussion.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVII 

Post#966 » by Ruzious » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:32 pm

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TGW wrote:Cammac--get well soon my Canadian brother. Always appreciate your insight in this thread. And thank goodness you're in Canada--a place where you're not turned down if you need heart surgery.


The Surgeon who did triple bypass was born in Lebanon immigrated to Canada at 11 and my Surgeon who put in pacemaker is Canadian born but Hong Kong parents. Multiracial staff working in harmony. People who are against immigration are idiots.


I join others with my thoughts and prayers cammac. Best wishes for a full recovery.

Amen to that. Best of luck and skill, cammac.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVII 

Post#967 » by FAH1223 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:35 pm

Regarding the FISA stuff, it’s pretty hilarious how some of the House GOP is so enraged with the powers the previous administration had. Especially when some of those same people voted to extend the FISA 702 program last week! Including some of the Dems.

The Koch head Tea Party members along with the progressive Dems didn’t vote for it. Which is one of the areas that progressives and libertarians agree on. That, and legalizing weed.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVII 

Post#968 » by stilldropin20 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:47 pm

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I join others with my thoughts and prayers cammac. Best wishes for a full recovery.


Popper, the house got full scope today. Obama, DOJ/FBI dirty as all hell.

#realeasethememo wow!!!! The entire house got the full briefing today from FBI. Wow!!

Just wondering what goes on in your head that led you to post that in response to cammac's situation? Do you even understand my question? At this point, I'm not posting to criticise, because you are what you are, and I assume that will never change. The psychology issues here have become more interesting than the political discussion.


You have no political argument at all so name calling is all you have. In that regard i feel sorry for you. you represent most liberals in this regard. they have nothing. No plan. No vision. no nothing. Just pure garbage. You have contributed nothing but absolute garbage in this thread. Complete garbage. Go 3 pages back. I was the 2nd person in this thread to wish cammac well. and i truly wish him well on his raod to recovery. But again, i dont know why i even responded to that personal line of complete effing garbage. because its just garbage to distract from the politics at play. Garbage politics buddy!!!! garbage!! grow up!! and learn how to negotiate!!! Not everything comes down to personal feelings. Your personal feelings dont matter. Neither do mine. Policy matters!!! But this is all your liberal leaders feed you. day after day. minute after minute. hour after hour. of emotional garbage!!! garbage in!! garbage out!!! Garbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggeeeeeee!!!!!!!
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVII 

Post#969 » by Ruzious » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:49 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:
Popper, the house got full scope today. Obama, DOJ/FBI dirty as all hell.

#realeasethememo wow!!!! The entire house got the full briefing today from FBI. Wow!!

Just wondering what goes on in your head that led you to post that in response to cammac's situation? Do you even understand my question? At this point, I'm not posting to criticise, because you are what you are, and I assume that will never change. The psychology issues here have become more interesting than the political discussion.


You have no political argument at all so name calling is all you have. In that regard i feel sorry for you. you represent most liberals in this regard. they have nothing. No plan. No vision. no nothing. Just pure garbage. You have contributed nothing but absolute garbage in this thread. Complete garbage. Go 3 pages back. I was the 2nd person in this thread to wish cammac well. and i truly wish him well on his raod to recovery. But again, i dont know why i even responded to that personal line of complete effing garbage. because its just garbage to distract from the politics at play. Garbage politics buddy!!!! garbage!! grow up!! and learn how to negotiate!!! Not everything comes down to personal feelings. Your personal feelings dont matter. Neither do mine. Policy matters!!! But this is all your liberal leaders feed you. day after day. minute after minute. hour after hour. of emotional garbage!!! garbage in!! garbage out!!! Garbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggeeeeeee!!!!!!!

Fascinating.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVII 

Post#970 » by stilldropin20 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:58 pm

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stilldropin20 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Just wondering what goes on in your head that led you to post that in response to cammac's situation? Do you even understand my question? At this point, I'm not posting to criticise, because you are what you are, and I assume that will never change. The psychology issues here have become more interesting than the political discussion.


You have no political argument at all so name calling is all you have. In that regard i feel sorry for you. you represent most liberals in this regard. they have nothing. No plan. No vision. no nothing. Just pure garbage. You have contributed nothing but absolute garbage in this thread. Complete garbage. Go 3 pages back. I was the 2nd person in this thread to wish cammac well. and i truly wish him well on his raod to recovery. But again, i dont know why i even responded to that personal line of complete effing garbage. because its just garbage to distract from the politics at play. Garbage politics buddy!!!! garbage!! grow up!! and learn how to negotiate!!! Not everything comes down to personal feelings. Your personal feelings dont matter. Neither do mine. Policy matters!!! But this is all your liberal leaders feed you. day after day. minute after minute. hour after hour. of emotional garbage!!! garbage in!! garbage out!!! Garbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggeeeeeee!!!!!!!

Fascinating.


the outgoing presidential administration at its highest levels (allegedly) spied on the incoming administration both during and after the election.....

and all you can think about is personal attacks??? you seriously are not concerned? even if you hate trump and i get it that you do but what if trump abuses his DOJ/FBI in the a similar manner and spies on the next candidate????
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVII 

Post#971 » by Wizardspride » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:59 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:I really need to stay off twitter.

If I'm judging Trump supporters solely by their tweets, they're some of the nastiest (bigoted) people you'll ever encounter.

But maybe I'm a snowflake.. as I was told.

"YOU just don't understand what MAGA is about libtard".

I guess not...


you mean...libs are getting their azz kicked on twitter? again? :lol:

Look man, the outgoing DOJ spied on trump(a US citizen) via the FISA courts. and did so based off a a fake dossier bought and paid for by the DNC. And continued to surveil him after the election. They booby trapped the entire DOJ with Clinton/Obama and even Bush appointees to trip him up once in office. They used/continue to use main stream media to disinform people like you, Wizardspride, into thinking Trump is either derranged, sick, unstable, racists, etc etc.

Look folks, The washington DC insiders DO NOT WANT OUTSIDERS in control of government.

because the insiders are controlled by special interests!!!!! And special interests are desperate to keep control of our government.

ive also been telling you guys for months that Trump is going to go down as GOAT president of the modern era. And i meant it!! :o :o :o He is going to expose it all. and fix it all. You guys really think it is blind luck that our unemployment rates are at historic lows in less than 12 months??? That our stock market took off?? That trillions of dollars are repatriating into the US with 2 weeks of the his tax reform?????

for the 1000th time....wade dafuq up!!!!!!

Uh no.

I was actually referring to seeing Hispanics called "wetbacks" etc

President Donald Trump referred to African countries, Haiti and El Salvador as "shithole" nations during a meeting Thursday and asked why the U.S. can't have more immigrants from Norway.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVII 

Post#972 » by Shoe » Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:08 pm

So the memo is a 4 page document written by only Rep. Devin Nunes. The same Devin Nunes who was on Trumps transition team and is a total hack of a congressman. Trump is president and can declassify anything he wants and the republicans control the congress yet the #releasethememo is being directed at a some kind of democratic boogeyman.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVII 

Post#973 » by Zonkerbl » Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:16 pm

A week after Trump's flagrantly racist s-hole comment, his approval ratings have *improved.*

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVII 

Post#974 » by Zonkerbl » Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:19 pm

nate33 wrote:
Pointgod wrote:No reputable news source is reporting anything about the Fisa courts. Only the usual right wing garbage sites.

LOL, there's about 15 sitting Congressmen tweeting about it right now. It's legit. No "reputable" (meaning in-the-tank for Democrats) news sources are reporting it because they know how badly it damages Democrats.

This is really big stuff. Basically, Obama's DOJ, the Clinton campaign, and the FBI illegally surveilled Trump (and probably other candidates) in the election by utilizing NSA database queries without a warrant. They then laundered that illegally obtained intelligence through back channels to Fusion GPS, who helped Christopher Steele write the dossier using information from that illegally obtained NSA data. It was that dossier, laundered to appear like it was legitimate, independent intelligence, that was then used to mislead the FISA court into obtaining a FISA warrant so that they could legally surveill Trump.

This makes Watergate look like a picnic. The Obama Administration permitted NSA surveillance to be weaponized against a political opponent. You don't have to believe me. It's going to come out eventually. People are going to go to jail for this.


Translation: The department of justice used perfectly legal instruments authorized by the incredibly evil and fascist Patriot act that REPUBLICANS forced on us after 9/11. Lo and behold it can be abused in a way that doesn't just hurt Democrats! Because Republicans are just as evil and criminal as Democrats are! Shock! Outrage!

Sucks to be on the receiving end of the Patriot Act for once doesn't it? Maybe we should get rid of it!
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVII 

Post#975 » by stilldropin20 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:20 pm

Wizardspride wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:I really need to stay off twitter.

If I'm judging Trump supporters solely by their tweets, they're some of the nastiest (bigoted) people you'll ever encounter.

But maybe I'm a snowflake.. as I was told.

"YOU just don't understand what MAGA is about libtard".

I guess not...


you mean...libs are getting their azz kicked on twitter? again? :lol:

Look man, the outgoing DOJ spied on trump(a US citizen) via the FISA courts. and did so based off a a fake dossier bought and paid for by the DNC. And continued to surveil him after the election. They booby trapped the entire DOJ with Clinton/Obama and even Bush appointees to trip him up once in office. They used/continue to use main stream media to disinform people like you, Wizardspride, into thinking Trump is either derranged, sick, unstable, racists, etc etc.

Look folks, The washington DC insiders DO NOT WANT OUTSIDERS in control of government.

because the insiders are controlled by special interests!!!!! And special interests are desperate to keep control of our government.

ive also been telling you guys for months that Trump is going to go down as GOAT president of the modern era. And i meant it!! :o :o :o He is going to expose it all. and fix it all. You guys really think it is blind luck that our unemployment rates are at historic lows in less than 12 months??? That our stock market took off?? That trillions of dollars are repatriating into the US with 2 weeks of the his tax reform?????

for the 1000th time....wade dafuq up!!!!!!

Uh no.

I was actually referring to seeing Hispanics called "wetbacks" etc



My entire twitter feed is filled with conservatives and liberals. I follow every single politician in office right now at the federal, state, and local I almost never see name calling or racists remarks....like virtually NEVER!!! I also follow nearly every single journalist. so i am assuming you are simply attempting to flame race wars and, frankly, making this up. Are racists remarks made on twitter? of course. But I've never seen more than extremely rare occurrences and many people call them out including me.

I will admit that i dont read too much into the remarks section but i often make remarks and people respond to me...and i just dont see this stuff. not sure what I am missing here or if you just follow some weirdos?

But if this is some big twitter problem? post it here! I will go to twitter and help you expose them(call them out)!!
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVII 

Post#976 » by Ruzious » Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:27 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:
You have no political argument at all so name calling is all you have. In that regard i feel sorry for you. you represent most liberals in this regard. they have nothing. No plan. No vision. no nothing. Just pure garbage. You have contributed nothing but absolute garbage in this thread. Complete garbage. Go 3 pages back. I was the 2nd person in this thread to wish cammac well. and i truly wish him well on his raod to recovery. But again, i dont know why i even responded to that personal line of complete effing garbage. because its just garbage to distract from the politics at play. Garbage politics buddy!!!! garbage!! grow up!! and learn how to negotiate!!! Not everything comes down to personal feelings. Your personal feelings dont matter. Neither do mine. Policy matters!!! But this is all your liberal leaders feed you. day after day. minute after minute. hour after hour. of emotional garbage!!! garbage in!! garbage out!!! Garbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggggeeeeeee!!!!!!!

Fascinating.


the outgoing presidential administration at its highest levels (allegedly) spied on the incoming administration both during and after the election.....

and all you can think about is personal attacks??? you seriously are not concerned? even if you hate trump and i get it that you do but what if trump abuses his DOJ/FBI in the a similar manner and spies on the next candidate????

Hmm, I guess I was out of line saying you are what you are. Pardons. Btw, you gotta work on the feaux outrage... totally not believable.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVII 

Post#977 » by stilldropin20 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:28 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:
nate33 wrote:
Pointgod wrote:No reputable news source is reporting anything about the Fisa courts. Only the usual right wing garbage sites.

LOL, there's about 15 sitting Congressmen tweeting about it right now. It's legit. No "reputable" (meaning in-the-tank for Democrats) news sources are reporting it because they know how badly it damages Democrats.

This is really big stuff. Basically, Obama's DOJ, the Clinton campaign, and the FBI illegally surveilled Trump (and probably other candidates) in the election by utilizing NSA database queries without a warrant. They then laundered that illegally obtained intelligence through back channels to Fusion GPS, who helped Christopher Steele write the dossier using information from that illegally obtained NSA data. It was that dossier, laundered to appear like it was legitimate, independent intelligence, that was then used to mislead the FISA court into obtaining a FISA warrant so that they could legally surveill Trump.

This makes Watergate look like a picnic. The Obama Administration permitted NSA surveillance to be weaponized against a political opponent. You don't have to believe me. It's going to come out eventually. People are going to go to jail for this.


Translation: The department of justice used perfectly legal instruments authorized by the incredibly evil and fascist Patriot act that REPUBLICANS forced on us after 9/11. Lo and behold it can be abused in a way that doesn't just hurt Democrats! Because Republicans are just as evil and criminal as Democrats are! Shock! Outrage!



you must have "cause" to issue a warrant.

in this case the "cause" was a cooked up phony russian dossier that the DNC/HRC paid over $12million and the FBI did not corraborate prior to the request for the warrant. and quadripple hearsay from 27 year old douchebag papadopoulus while heavily drinking in a bar for heavens sake. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Thats "cause?" For any kind of warrant? Let alone the most difficult type of warrant that one can obtain in our court systems.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVII 

Post#978 » by closg00 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:31 pm

Shoe wrote:So the memo is a 4 page document written by only Rep. Devin Nunes. The same Devin Nunes who was on Trumps transition team and is a total hack of a congressman. Trump is president and can declassify anything he wants and the republicans control the congress yet the #releasethememo is being directed at a some kind of democratic boogeyman.


There you go. One observation that I have from observing conservative media, their pundits, and the trickle-down to their followers, is that they have great difficulty in distinguishing between fact and opinion. These people also extrapolate conclusions based-upon scenarios that favor only their side.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVII 

Post#979 » by JWizmentality » Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:37 pm

Wait wait wait...let me get this straight. Nunes wrote the memo???



LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XVII 

Post#980 » by stilldropin20 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:46 pm

JWizmentality wrote:Wait wait wait...let me get this straight. Nunes wrote the memo???



LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



he is sitting chair of the house intel community that is investigating "collusiongate"!!! its a factual based memo with a step by step of what occurred summer 2016. The rest of the house is appalled. Graham an dGrassley referred many people to the FBI/DOJ last week for criminal prosecution.

You guys really think this is a big game?? :nonono: :nonono: :nonono:

well the trump admin is getting its sea legs and about to show the american exactly what kind of game was played in 2016. :lol: :lol: :lol: Gloves off!!! :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:
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