Second Worst Trade of last Decade?

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2nd worst trade?

1-Dame Lillard to Port/GWallace to BRK
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27%
2-Harden to Houston
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51%
3-Knight to Suns-Milw gets MCW-Philly gets LAL pick
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8%
4-Sac-Philly deal, when Sac signed Landry
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8%
5-Cousins for Hield/#10
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7%
 
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Re: Second Worst Trade of last Decade? 

Post#41 » by Young_Star11 » Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:17 pm

Has to be the Harden trade.

Traded a future perennial MVP candidate who should have won an MVP by now. Difference was over a few million dollars.
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Re: Second Worst Trade of last Decade? 

Post#42 » by Domejandro » Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:20 pm

I still am holding onto the Gerald Wallace trade. The context was that they were a bottom six team in a league with three season-ending injuries that was desperate to make a push for the playoffs (they were 4.5 games out) with a 15-29 record. Trading that pick so incredibly stupid that it was amazing that Billy King managed to make a worse trade.
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Re: Second Worst Trade of last Decade? 

Post#43 » by baldur » Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:21 pm

Cousins for justin Jackson, buddy hield and harry giles. Its funny kings fans try to include dearon fox and this years upcoming draft choice not to face the terribleness of the trade.
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Post#44 » by Alonzo_Morning » Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:57 pm

You need to put the full trades in the first post. Why didn't you do dis
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Post#45 » by Alonzo_Morning » Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:59 pm

baldur wrote:Cousins for justin Jackson, buddy hield and harry giles. Its funny kings fans try to include dearon fox and this years upcoming draft choice not to face the terribleness of the trade.

It was Hield and 1st rounder, Galloway and Evans
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Re: Second Worst Trade of last Decade? 

Post#46 » by Dominator83 » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:00 pm

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Dominater wrote:Buddy Hield is not good. Certainly nowhere near the centerpiece in a trade for a superstar good. And what has that pick done for them?

SAC stubbornly held onto Cousins all that time, firing coach after coach, for what exactly?


Doesn’t matter. Hield is going to be good but that’s a separate issue. Kings got the 6th pick in the draft and another lottery pick and Frank Mason. Aside from keeping their own pick which might have went to the Bulls (Fox) and being able to tank for this years top pick instead of treadmill (though not officially part of the deal)

The value is what it was for him, and they decided he wasn’t worth the Supermax he would’ve required


Great move by the Kings. :roll:

The money they saved by not super-maxing Cousins helped them to make the savvy acquisitions of George Hill, Zach Randolph and Vince Carter.

Yea i just can't see any justification for the return (or lack thereof) that they got on Cousins. They should have gotten something along the lines of what Butler and George landed for their teams. And i know that atleast in the Realgm world, Cousins was themore coveted player of the 3, yet got by far the worst return
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Re: Second Worst Trade of last Decade? 

Post#47 » by sportfan6197 » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:09 pm

Dominater wrote:Cousins was basically had for free

Tyreke Evans, Buddy Hield, Jutin Jackson, Harry Giles, Frank Mason for DeMarcus Cousins isn't "for free". Especially when you factor in the trade played a role in getting Fox.
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Post#48 » by RIPskaterdude » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:14 pm

baldur wrote:Cousins for justin Jackson, buddy hield and harry giles. Its funny kings fans try to include dearon fox and this years upcoming draft choice not to face the terribleness of the trade.
Kings don't get Fox if Cousins stays with the kings. That's a fact.
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Re: Second Worst Trade of last Decade? 

Post#49 » by Kurt Heimlich » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:18 pm

With hindsight it's Harden unquestionably.

Without hindsight it's Gerald Wallace . A solid but unspectacular 30 year old UFA to be for an obvious lotto pick is just hilariously bad. Them you factor in the nets had cap space to go after him that off-season anyways.

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Post#50 » by CS707 » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:22 pm

OKC at least has a decent player in Steven Adams to show for the Harden trade.
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Re: Second Worst Trade of last Decade? 

Post#51 » by bwgood77 » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:33 pm

It trading that Lakers pick for Knight results in having traded Doncic, Ayton, Bagley, Porter, Young, etc, for Brandon Knight I don't see how that can't be among the worst ever.
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Post#52 » by PierceFan4ever » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:00 am

Celtics Sixers Fultz Tatum trade has potential. At the time I was against it because of how great everyone viewed Fultz as a cant miss prospect so I didn’t want to see him gone and I also thought Ainge didn’t get enough to justify the trade because there were protections on the pick when at the time everyone said Fultz is worth a lot.

Now? Uff. If Fultz somehow turns out to be a bust and Tatum becomes a multi star all star or even a superstar plus a potential top pick in this year’s draft or next year’s? That would be a massive win for the Celtics regarding the trade.
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Re: Second Worst Trade of last Decade? 

Post#53 » by traax » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:11 am

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PockyCandy wrote:Steve Nash was traded for what ended up being two first round picks and two second round picks.

He then proceeded to break his leg and miss two months. He was plagued by injuries throughout his Lakers tenure and was 10% of the player he was supposed to be because of those injuries.

Can't blame them for that trade though, it's still a no brainer move you gotta make. Had championship potential if it worked.


Nash was 38 or 39 at this point. There is no way to defend this trade.
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Re: Second Worst Trade of last Decade? 

Post#54 » by Revived » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:15 am

Aeternus wrote:If you're gonna look at traded pick in the light of the player they turned into, might as well mention the Warriors getting Troy Murphy and a 2012 second-round draft pick (the 35th pick) from the Nets in exchange for Brandan Wright and Dan Gadzuric.

It’s amazing how many teams the Nets have helped make better.

Don’t the Celtics, Blazers, Warriors fans ever feel bad? Like if I were them, the Nets would be my second favorite team and would root for them to do well just out of guilt.
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Post#55 » by baldur » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:25 am

RIPskaterdude wrote:
baldur wrote:Cousins for justin Jackson, buddy hield and harry giles. Its funny kings fans try to include dearon fox and this years upcoming draft choice not to face the terribleness of the trade.
Kings don't get Fox if Cousins stays with the kings. That's a fact.


76ers swapped picks with the Kings pick. So what mattered is where the 76ers finished last season. Not to mention, lower lottery picks like markkanen, mitchell, Dennis jr smith and ntilikina are better than fox so far.
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Re: Second Worst Trade of last Decade? 

Post#56 » by TheHartBreakKid » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:26 am

hmmmmmm


Regarding the Harden trade......I completely agree that Harden's jump to superstardom was very unexpected. The consensus at the time was that he was a tier below RW as a prospect, who himself made a jump into superstardom that was unexpected. At the time, Kevin Martin was expected to fill in that Harden role from the previous year to an acceptable level, and Lamb and the future picks were actually considered decent value. of course, it was hard to see any of those assets become the value of Harden, but OKC believed that they had enough fire power at the top to afford to not get a Harden quality level piece back, but rather get a few pieces that add up to Harden quality.


BUT, what's truly incredible to me in the Harden trade is that he wanted to stay in OKC....he didn't want to leave...and OKC wanted to keep him. They just got so greedy. And what I don't get it why mess with a proven thing (finals appearence). It's not like they were a rising team that had so much potential but no success. They had made the finals! that's the definition of a contender. Forget about Harden's potential and whether his superstardom was expected or not.....he was undisputedly a top 4 important piece to a team that made the finals, and they traded him despite him wanting to stay....over a few million dollars. It was the opposite of a championship move, by a team who should have had 100% championship aspirations.

Now, the close to worst case scenario happened (Lamb didn't work out...Martin was underwhelming in his one year there, and the picks didn't turn into a superstar, though Adams is a great player and htat's why it's not the worst case scenario), and most importantly, Harden pretty much reached the absolute ceiling version of himself as a prospect. Additionally, Ibaka (who was considered a priority over Harden) declined heavily, and the core of Durant and Westbrook didn't win a champoinship before their time was over. There's a lot of bad luck involved for OKC regarding that and they shouldn't be criticized for the worst case scenario happening.....BUT, it's hard to not criticize this trade even ignoring hindsight, when you simply remember that they made a rebuilding passive move at a time where they should have been anything but.
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Re: Second Worst Trade of last Decade? 

Post#57 » by DeadHorse » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:26 am

Surprised no one remembers the clippers trade with cleveland, as one of the worst in the last decade. Mo williams and Jamario moon for Baron Davis' corpse and an unprotected first that became Kyrie Irving. Easily a top 5 worst trade imo, that would be worse if it hadn't been for nabbing CP3 later that year.
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Post#58 » by RIPskaterdude » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:27 am

baldur wrote:
RIPskaterdude wrote:
baldur wrote:Cousins for justin Jackson, buddy hield and harry giles. Its funny kings fans try to include dearon fox and this years upcoming draft choice not to face the terribleness of the trade.
Kings don't get Fox if Cousins stays with the kings. That's a fact.


76ers swapped picks with the Kings pick. So what mattered is where the 76ers finished last season. Not to mention, lower lottery picks like markkanen, mitchell, Dennis jr smith and ntilikina are better than fox so far.
Ntilikina better than Fox? Pass
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Re: Second Worst Trade of last Decade? 

Post#59 » by HotelVitale » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:31 am

dc wrote:Potentially could be the Kings trading Jason Thompson, Carl Landry and Nik Stauskas to the 76ers in a cap dump in exchange for a 2017 pick swap, 2018 2nd rounder and 2019 unprotected 1st. That 2019 unprotected 1st is looking very Brooklyn like right now.
I voted for this because it was outrageous from the start and not just because of some unexpected turns or twists. Most of the things people are talking about here are just unexpected outcomes:
--the Kyrie trade only looks terrible because that pick won the lottery in a gigantic fluke (it had like a 1% change of doing so)
--the DMC yield was two top-10 picks and sweeteners for a guy who was definitely leaving soon
--MCW was overvalued by the Bucks but he still looked like he had a nice future, and there was no way to know the Lakers would strike out on FA for 3 years in a row
--The Harden trade was a blunder but the return was actually very good at the time: an excellent pick (the Raps' unprotected, expected to be top-5 but fell to 10), another decent unprotected 1st, a good prospect who had just been a lotto pick (J Lamb), and a solid fill-in for a contending team (Kevin Martin); none of that worked out (though they got Steven Adams with the pick) but it was a killer package at the time

On the other hand the Sixers-Kings one was the Sixers giving up nothing at all and getting two huge assets from a bad team; and the Kings had very little chance of making the trade work for them--who would have possibly thought they'd sign a star with that roster and FO? That seemed like a total fleece at the time, and as a trade it didn't depend on various unexpected outcomes.
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Post#60 » by Kings2013 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:42 am

baldur wrote:
RIPskaterdude wrote:
baldur wrote:Cousins for justin Jackson, buddy hield and harry giles. Its funny kings fans try to include dearon fox and this years upcoming draft choice not to face the terribleness of the trade.
Kings don't get Fox if Cousins stays with the kings. That's a fact.


76ers swapped picks with the Kings pick. So what mattered is where the 76ers finished last season. Not to mention, lower lottery picks like markkanen, mitchell, Dennis jr smith and ntilikina are better than fox so far.


There was about a 50% chance the Kings would’ve had NO pick with Cousins on the team. Last years pick was top 10 protected, and we were hovering around that with an easier back schedule

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