Trade Ideas (Part III)

[Stillwater]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6995262
Cav's send Nets pick unprotected & 2021 1st top 10 protected. New Orleans probably still says no, but this is the closest we could get imo to getting AD.
I really can't see the Cav's trading the pick without protection for much less, which basically equates to we aint trading the pick under most scenarios.

Thats not happening. AD is untouchable.

noone is untouchable without a ntc. But yeah it's a pipe dream

[Stillwater]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6996926
Charlotte gets Nets pick swap rights top 3 protected.

[CaptainCanada]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6996926
Charlotte gets Nets pick swap rights top 3 protected.

Most rebuilding teams want to get younger.....pick wouldn't be able to be protected.

[CaptainCanada]

I think point guards could be had with Cavs late first rounder. But Philly and several other teams will be in point guard market as well.

[Stillwater]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6996926
Charlotte gets Nets pick swap rights top 3 protected.

Most rebuilding teams want to get younger.....pick wouldn't be able to be protected.

not true imo as they won't get a better pick unless Boston wants him and that's unlikely. No lottery teams are likely to trade out of this draft.
Yeah some middling team might offer a rookie scale contract like Ntilkina but the odds are greater this pick even with top 3 protection gets transfered and they are getting good players here with IT3 on an expiring with option to sign if the market is dry and Crowder is on a better deal than MKG who is basically equal value on the court.
I would not give up the pick unprotected unless they took Thompson and Frye in the same return.

[CaptainCanada]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6996926
Charlotte gets Nets pick swap rights top 3 protected.

Most rebuilding teams want to get younger.....pick wouldn't be able to be protected.

not true imo as they won't get a better pick unless Boston wants him and that's unlikely. No lottery teams are likely to trade out of this draft.
Yeah some middling team might offer a rookie scale contract like Ntilkina but the odds are greater this pick even with top 3 protection gets transfered and they are getting good players here with IT3 on an expiring with option to sign if the market is dry and Crowder is on a better deal than MKG who is basically equal value on the court.
I would not give up the pick unprotected unless they took Thompson and Frye in the same return.

It will be interesting to see come the trade deadline if it will be a "buyers" or "sellers" market. Can Cleveland upright the ship by themselves? or will they need to go shopping for an interior presence/ guard help

[Stillwater]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6997441
Cavs send their 2021 1st top 5 protected and the Miami 2020 2nd.
Collins could be used next to Love quite nicely. Dedmon provides rim protection and can stretch the floor a little bit
as Love primary backup on the 2nd unit.
This would make sense if we move Thompson in another deal for sure.
I'm pretty high on Collins and his activity around the rim would be very good for this roster.
The only hitch here is they might not have any interest in Crowder with Prince at the 3 unless they like Crowder at the 4(doubtful).
I would also consider moving Frye's expiring instead of Crowder if they prefer the cap relief.

[Stillwater]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6997572
Would consider taking on jerebco who is shooting 42% from deep to get Hood who is on the block due to the emergence of Mitchell,
For Crowder would probably need to throw in a 2nd to also ship Rose or clear a roster spot in another deal.

[Sactowndog]

I still think Frye/shumpert for Hill and cavs 1st is realistic. Hill is still a good player but he's a more methodical probing type of guard that hasn't fit well with a kings team who has so many inexperienced players on the court at one time.

Do Cav’s fans think this is doable? Is it better or worse with Smith instead of Shumpert?

[Sactowndog]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6992512^^ here's my guess on what might work for both teams.

Why would we give up WCS?

The two items you have of value are Cle first and Frye’s expiring contract. Pair those with a contract you want to dump and we send you Hill.

[jbk1234]

Players I want gone before the deadline: IT & Rose.

[jbk1234]

I still think Frye/shumpert for Hill and cavs 1st is realistic. Hill is still a good player but he's a more methodical probing type of guard that hasn't fit well with a kings team who has so many inexperienced players on the court at one time.

Do Cav’s fans think this is doable? Is it better or worse with Smith instead of Shumpert?

It's really going to come down to what Charlotte wants for Howard & Kemba tbh.

[Sactowndog]

I still think Frye/shumpert for Hill and cavs 1st is realistic. Hill is still a good player but he's a more methodical probing type of guard that hasn't fit well with a kings team who has so many inexperienced players on the court at one time.

Do Cav’s fans think this is doable? Is it better or worse with Smith instead of Shumpert?

It's really going to come down to what Charlotte wants for Howard & Kemba tbh.

Fair enough.

[King Ken]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6997441
Cavs send their 2021 1st top 5 protected and the Miami 2020 2nd.
Collins could be used next to Love quite nicely. Dedmon provides rim protection and can stretch the floor a little bit
as Love primary backup on the 2nd unit.
This would make sense if we move Thompson in another deal for sure.
I'm pretty high on Collins and his activity around the rim would be very good for this roster.
The only hitch here is they might not have any interest in Crowder with Prince at the 3 unless they like Crowder at the 4(doubtful).
I would also consider moving Frye's expiring instead of Crowder if they prefer the cap relief.

Every trade with the Hawks from Cavs fans have been horrendous so as a Hawk fan, I will say we have zero interest in doing any trades with the Cavs.

[Stillwater]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6997441
Cavs send their 2021 1st top 5 protected and the Miami 2020 2nd.
Collins could be used next to Love quite nicely. Dedmon provides rim protection and can stretch the floor a little bit
as Love primary backup on the 2nd unit.
This would make sense if we move Thompson in another deal for sure.
I'm pretty high on Collins and his activity around the rim would be very good for this roster.
The only hitch here is they might not have any interest in Crowder with Prince at the 3 unless they like Crowder at the 4(doubtful).
I would also consider moving Frye's expiring instead of Crowder if they prefer the cap relief.

Every trade with the Hawks from Cavs fans have been horrendous so as a Hawk fan, I will say we have zero interest in doing any trades with the Cavs.

On the surface I would not expect ATL to move on from Collins in his rookie season, however you are already getting a top 5 pick this year most likely along with the Houston and the Wolves 1st , & since you will be trying to shed the contracts of Bazemore and Plumlee you will need to move those draft assets besides your own to attach to those players outgoing to get anyone to take them esp Plumlee.
So, acquiring a future pick at an uncertain time for the Cav's where they could be in a rebuild could be appealing ,and Crowder also gives you another trade asset on his killer deal if you don't see him as a good fit on your roster.
But if you love Collins more than a potential top 10 pick in 2021 so be it.

[King Ken]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6997441
Cavs send their 2021 1st top 5 protected and the Miami 2020 2nd.
Collins could be used next to Love quite nicely. Dedmon provides rim protection and can stretch the floor a little bit
as Love primary backup on the 2nd unit.
This would make sense if we move Thompson in another deal for sure.
I'm pretty high on Collins and his activity around the rim would be very good for this roster.
The only hitch here is they might not have any interest in Crowder with Prince at the 3 unless they like Crowder at the 4(doubtful).
I would also consider moving Frye's expiring instead of Crowder if they prefer the cap relief.

Every trade with the Hawks from Cavs fans have been horrendous so as a Hawk fan, I will say we have zero interest in doing any trades with the Cavs.

On the surface I would not expect ATL to move on from Collins in his rookie season, however you are already getting a top 5 pick this year most likely along with the Houston and the Wolves 1st , & since you will be trying to shed the contracts of Bazemore and Plumlee you will need to move those draft assets besides your own to attach to those players outgoing to get anyone to take them esp Plumlee.
So, acquiring a future pick at an uncertain time for the Cav's where they could be in a rebuild could be appealing ,and Crowder also gives you another trade asset on his killer deal if you don't see him as a good fit on your roster.
But if you love Collins more than a potential top 10 pick in 2021 so be it.

Everything you offered is trash. Why not just leave us out of any offer. That would be better. Like I said in the other thread, Cavs fans are disrespectful with the offers they are making. They wonder why no fanbase is taking them seriously right now. You can't tell someone to take J.R. Smith, when everyone can see he's trash and regressed. You can tell someone to take Derrick Rose, he's a former MVP when everyone sees he's trash. Everything on Cleveland is trash but LeBron and Love. Crowder is back to his Dallas status and IT wants to be paid and he's tough to fit when you don't have premier defensive players around him. But you are trying to convince Atlanta fans to trade Collins who has one of the highest PER's and one of our premier prospects for Crowder and a protected future pick. Man, get the .. outta here. You gotta be a troll. Laker fans don't even troll like this. They tend to be more realistic in trade talk.

I never seen them post trades this goofy. At this point, I would rather never see a Cavs fan mention Atlanta. We don't have any interest in a trade with Cleveland. None what so ever. The Kyle Korver deal is the final deal we need to do with Cleveland unless their GM is more realistic than there fanbase.

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[Stillwater]

Every trade with the Hawks from Cavs fans have been horrendous so as a Hawk fan, I will say we have zero interest in doing any trades with the Cavs.

On the surface I would not expect ATL to move on from Collins in his rookie season, however you are already getting a top 5 pick this year most likely along with the Houston and the Wolves 1st , & since you will be trying to shed the contracts of Bazemore and Plumlee you will need to move those draft assets besides your own to attach to those players outgoing to get anyone to take them esp Plumlee.
So, acquiring a future pick at an uncertain time for the Cav's where they could be in a rebuild could be appealing ,and Crowder also gives you another trade asset on his killer deal if you don't see him as a good fit on your roster.
But if you love Collins more than a potential top 10 pick in 2021 so be it.

Everything you offered is trash. Why not just leave us out of any offer. That would be better. Like I said in the other thread, Cavs fans are disrespectful with the offers they are making. They wonder why no fanbase is taking them seriously right now. You can't tell someone to take J.R. Smith, when everyone can see he's trash and regressed. You can tell someone to take Derrick Rose, he's a former MVP when everyone sees he's trash. Everything on Cleveland is trash but LeBron and Love. Crowder is back to his Dallas status and IT wants to be paid and he's tough to fit when you don't have premier defensive players around him. But you are trying to convince Atlanta fans to trade Collins who has one of the highest PER's and one of our premier prospects for Crowder and a protected future pick. Man, get the .. outta here. You gotta be a troll. Laker fans don't even troll like this. They tend to be more realistic in trade talk.

I never seen them post trades this goofy. At this point, I would rather never see a Cavs fan mention Atlanta. We don't have any interest in a trade with Cleveland. None what so ever. The Kyle Korver deal is the final deal we need to do with Cleveland unless their GM is more realistic than there fanbase.

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Wow I guess you love you some Collins...he aint the messiah jack.
trades happen all the time that fans like you don't approve of for monetary reasons and long term planning.
Besides it's just an idea, and the pick you would be getting is worth more than Collins on paper and it certainly isn't worth attacking "all Cav's fans" for my idea.
You think our team is trash? hows that 3rd worst record in the league treating you?
troll yourself back to the ATL board THIS IS CLE

[King Ken]

On the surface I would not expect ATL to move on from Collins in his rookie season, however you are already getting a top 5 pick this year most likely along with the Houston and the Wolves 1st , & since you will be trying to shed the contracts of Bazemore and Plumlee you will need to move those draft assets besides your own to attach to those players outgoing to get anyone to take them esp Plumlee.
So, acquiring a future pick at an uncertain time for the Cav's where they could be in a rebuild could be appealing ,and Crowder also gives you another trade asset on his killer deal if you don't see him as a good fit on your roster.
But if you love Collins more than a potential top 10 pick in 2021 so be it.

Everything you offered is trash. Why not just leave us out of any offer. That would be better. Like I said in the other thread, Cavs fans are disrespectful with the offers they are making. They wonder why no fanbase is taking them seriously right now. You can't tell someone to take J.R. Smith, when everyone can see he's trash and regressed. You can tell someone to take Derrick Rose, he's a former MVP when everyone sees he's trash. Everything on Cleveland is trash but LeBron and Love. Crowder is back to his Dallas status and IT wants to be paid and he's tough to fit when you don't have premier defensive players around him. But you are trying to convince Atlanta fans to trade Collins who has one of the highest PER's and one of our premier prospects for Crowder and a protected future pick. Man, get the .. outta here. You gotta be a troll. Laker fans don't even troll like this. They tend to be more realistic in trade talk.

I never seen them post trades this goofy. At this point, I would rather never see a Cavs fan mention Atlanta. We don't have any interest in a trade with Cleveland. None what so ever. The Kyle Korver deal is the final deal we need to do with Cleveland unless their GM is more realistic than there fanbase.

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Wow I guess you love you some Collins...he aint the messiah jack.
trades happen all the time that fans like you don't approve of for monetary reasons and long term planning.
Besides it's just an idea, and the pick you would be getting is worth more than Collins on paper and it certainly isn't worth attacking "all Cav's fans" for my idea.
You think our team is trash? hows that 3rd worst record in the league treating you?
troll yourself back to the ATL board THIS IS CLE

Please just leave us out of your bad proposals, please. No need to insult any posters.

I am happy with where we stand, I would prefer last place. I want a top 5 pick in this draft. I would love to land a player similar to what Mr. James has done for Cleveland. He's one of the GOAT's.

[Stillwater]

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6997866
Cav's send 2020 Miami 2nd if necessary.

[jbk1234]

Everything you offered is trash. Why not just leave us out of any offer. That would be better. Like I said in the other thread, Cavs fans are disrespectful with the offers they are making. They wonder why no fanbase is taking them seriously right now. You can't tell someone to take J.R. Smith, when everyone can see he's trash and regressed. You can tell someone to take Derrick Rose, he's a former MVP when everyone sees he's trash. Everything on Cleveland is trash but LeBron and Love. Crowder is back to his Dallas status and IT wants to be paid and he's tough to fit when you don't have premier defensive players around him. But you are trying to convince Atlanta fans to trade Collins who has one of the highest PER's and one of our premier prospects for Crowder and a protected future pick. Man, get the .. outta here. You gotta be a troll. Laker fans don't even troll like this. They tend to be more realistic in trade talk.

I never seen them post trades this goofy. At this point, I would rather never see a Cavs fan mention Atlanta. We don't have any interest in a trade with Cleveland. None what so ever. The Kyle Korver deal is the final deal we need to do with Cleveland unless their GM is more realistic than there fanbase.

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Wow I guess you love you some Collins...he aint the messiah jack.
trades happen all the time that fans like you don't approve of for monetary reasons and long term planning.
Besides it's just an idea, and the pick you would be getting is worth more than Collins on paper and it certainly isn't worth attacking "all Cav's fans" for my idea.
You think our team is trash? hows that 3rd worst record in the league treating you?
troll yourself back to the ATL board THIS IS CLE

Please just leave us out of your bad proposals, please. No need to insult any posters.

I am happy with where we stand, I would prefer last place. I want a top 5 pick in this draft. I would love to land a player similar to what Mr. James has done for Cleveland. He's one of the GOAT's.

This conversation has clearly gone off the rails. I'd rather not hand out formal warnings. I will note that if you go to another team's forum and take offense to proposals that are favorable to that team, or aren't necessarily even-handed, then maybe other team's forums aren't for you. You'll find proposals like this on every team's forum.