Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5

[JMac1]

Win now or Booker leaves?!? Serious? He just turned 21 not 29.......

[sunsbum]

No way in heaven do I touch Batums contract with.....anything. Not even getting rid of Knightmare express gets me on board that train. You realize that in 2 years we would be paying Batum and Kemba close to like 50 million dollars?! And we give them a pick? **** no.

[jredsaz]

OK. Let's look at what Kemba would actually cost.

Charlotte wants to trade Kemba, a bad contract, and get back a pick and/or a young player.

So. We would have to do a trade something like
Monroe, Chriss, a pick, and Dudley or a similar contract for Batum and Walker.

So, we would lose Monroe's expiring, that $17 million per year that comes back to us this summer.
Batum's deal is 22.4 million per year for for for years.
Kemba is $12 million per year.

So, basically we pay $34 million per year for 2 years.
We pay another $22 million for two years after he leaves, or in addition to whatever it costs to resign him.

Would we think that is a good FA signing?

We give up Chriss and Dudley for the privilege.

If we gave up NOTHING it would be a bad deal.

I think there is a deal for the Suns if we include Knight, Monroe, MIA 2018 1st, MIL 1st for Walker, Batum. Maybe not for the Hornets. But I am a Batum believer. His passing and shooting with his size and defensive versatility is still intriguing. In the right system surrounded by scorers like Booker, Walker, and Warren I think he can make a Horford like impact.

Would want to keep Chandler and Dudley because they become $23 million in expierings. Combine that with the remaining picks and rookie scale talent and the Suns are in a great positiin to go get the next available star player.

[NavLDO]

Yeah, but that's because they've blown their money on Batum and Howard. We haven't, and can get Kemba, get a 'big prize' this off-season, then pay Kemba and Booker next season, with JJ and Bender (Assuming we would have to trade Warren, who's on a great contract, and a young player like Bender, plus maybe Miami's pick.)

I'll ask again, as I did last night. Pretend you are Boogie, and McD approaches you over the summer:

"Hey, we've got Booker, Warren, Chriss, JJ and Bender, and this rookie PG and Center...we'll figure out the depth later, but we think this PG kid is good..."

or

"Hey, we've got Kemba and Booker, so 50 pts + 10 assts, with JJ and Chriss at the Forwards...you'll be our Cornerstone at the 5, and complete our Big 3."

What's going to be more enticing to you???

Playing next to AD while making the max amount of money over 5 year

It would really depend on if he's willing to take another step back after this season. If he realizes the Suns have assets and can continue to build the team, while the Pels do not, then maybe there's a shot.

He can get max amount of money from any team this off-season I thought. The Pelicans have zero incentive value for him to stay (I could be wrong). The Pelicans are tied for the 7th-8th spot in the West with the Clippers, and the Nuggets are sitting in the 9th spot with Millsap trying to return before the all-star break. My money is on the Clippers and Nuggets to make the playoffs. Clippers because Lou Williams is balling out of his mind and they seem to be healthy now (minus Gallinari). The Pelicans just don't have the roster or cap space or assets for a trade to build a sustainable team around AD, Jrue, and Boogie. I could easily see Boogie leave this off-season. With the way Booker has been playing I wouldn't be surprised to hear a lot of players saying they would love to play with him (Kyrie even mentioned this).

Too bad that is virtually impossible without gutting the team...Cap #s + (Contract years left starting 2018 season)

Jrue - $26.1M (4)
ADavis - $25.5M (3)
Hill - $12.3M (2)
Asik - $11.3M (1+Early Termination w/ $3M guarantee)
Moore - $8.8M (2)

That's 5 players eating up $84M of the $101M Cap. That leaves $17M to fillout 10 more spots...oh, and sign Cousins to that sweet 5-year Max you were talking about...yeah, not so much. Luxury Tax Max is $123M, so that's $39M. So sure, they could Max Cousins for what, let's see, Cousins is an 8-yr Vet, so that's 30% of $101M, so basically, $30.3M.

OK, so let's figure that in, and add in Ajinca, who's expiring, but still on the roster, and the rest guaranteed salaries.

Boogie - $30.3M (4)
Jrue - $26.1M (4)
ADavis - $25.5M (3)
Hill - $12.3M (2)
Asik - $11.3M (1+Early Termination w/ $3M guarantee)
Moore - $8.8M (2)
Ajinca - $5.3M (Expiring)
Jackson - $1.4M (2, plus Dead cap his of $1.8M, so they'll keep him)
Diallo - $1.6M, otherwise, $.5M (Dead Cap hit)

So that is now 9 players eating up, at best $122.6M. You've $400K to sign 6 players...GO!

Yeah, good luck with that, because no one is taking a then, 32-YO Asik off your hands for $11.3M. Hill?? Doubtful, he's injured, and not that good anyway, for being paid more than Warren is. Moore is a possibility, so that would give them $9.2M to sign 7 players, or the minimum is 13, so 5, right? Ajinca?? Also not playing...

Anyway, you get my point. Unless they can find a sucker to take Jrue off their hands for and avg of $26.4M for the next 4 years. I mean, sure, Jrue has a player option in his age 31 season to turn down his $27M paycheck...but...

Seriously, and you all are worried about paying Kemba $4-6M more per year?

Anyway...Cousins, or AD, will be hitting the open market this summer via trade or FA, unless the Pelicans can utilize some very interesting math to make it work.

[hollywood6964]

OK. Let's look at what Kemba would actually cost.

Charlotte wants to trade Kemba, a bad contract, and get back a pick and/or a young player.

So. We would have to do a trade something like
Monroe, Chriss, a pick, and Dudley or a similar contract for Batum and Walker.

So, we would lose Monroe's expiring, that $17 million per year that comes back to us this summer.
Batum's deal is 22.4 million per year for for for years.
Kemba is $12 million per year.

So, basically we pay $34 million per year for 2 years.
We pay another $22 million for two years after he leaves, or in addition to whatever it costs to resign him.

Would we think that is a good FA signing?

We give up Chriss and Dudley for the privilege.

If we gave up NOTHING it would be a bad deal.

I think there is a deal for the Suns if we include Knight, Monroe, MIA 2018 1st, MIL 1st for Walker, Batum. Maybe not for the Hornets. But I am a Batum believer. His passing and shooting with his size and defensive versatility is still intriguing. In the right system surrounded by scorers like Booker, Walker, and Warren I think he can make a Horford like impact.

Would want to keep Chandler and Dudley because they become $23 million in expierings. Combine that with the remaining picks and rookie scale talent and the Suns are in a great positiin to go get the next available star player.

I like Batum as well, but not for that kind of dough. Maybe half that.....Jordan has to be one of the worst decision makers in the league.

[Frank Lee]

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This Kemba debate is good reading and writing, but do you really think McD is going to do a deal that ISNT a steal ? I could see him offer up Monroe, Milw pick, and a second or two... essentially what we got for Bled plus a little. But no way are we to be a dumping ground for Charlottes bad signings. Keep Howard, Batum, and Williams away... we have our own dead weight.

[hollywood6964]

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This Kemba debate is good reading and writing, but do you really think McD is going to do a deal that ISNT a steal ? I could see him offer up Monroe, Milw pick, and a second or two... essentially what we got for Bled plus a little. But no way are we to be a dumping ground for Charlottes bad signings. Keep Howard, Batum, and Williams away... we have our own dead weight.

Yeah, it's too much, and kemba is no superstar to offset the scale.

[Cutter]

Win now or Booker leaves?!? Serious? He just turned 21 not 29.......

Nobody is saying win-now means win tomorrow. It means Suns should always be looking to make aggressive move in trade and FA to improve the team around Booker.

Win now means no more BS like the #timeline. It means continually evaluating and making trades and signing FA's in order to improve the team. It takes years, assuming McD makes good FA signings and good trades, to build a winning team. If he doesn't sign players that fit on the first go-round, then you have to move them for yet different talent. It is a constant movement of players onto the team and off of the team over a long period of time all with the intent of building around your core players.

Looking at players like Kyrie Irving, Kemba Walker etc.. is exactly what McD should be doing. But to avoid this process (as many on this board advocate) because bringing in a veteran would "take away the development of our young players" is not smart basketball, and ensures a team will be bad for a long time. Suns have already been historically bad (for the Suns) for the last 5 years. It is easy for me to see them still being bad for the next 5 years if we follow the #timeline.

And make no mistake, if this franchise continues to flounder then Booker will request a trade a few years down the road.

[Qwigglez]

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This Kemba debate is good reading and writing, but do you really think McD is going to do a deal that ISNT a steal ? I could see him offer up Monroe, Milw pick, and a second or two... essentially what we got for Bled plus a little. But no way are we to be a dumping ground for Charlottes bad signings. Keep Howard, Batum, and Williams away... we have our own dead weight.

I don't think we are going to make a deal unless the Hornets are desperate to trade Kemba in hopes to get a top 5 draft pick. In this case, I could see us getting a steal of some kind. If not, then the Suns ride into the summer with the way the roster is currently constructed, except maybe buyout Monroe. The Suns are in no rush to add anyone this season since we aren't making the playoffs, the ball is in their court (any team, not just the Hornets). Come draft day, we are going to be wheeling and dealing, I can almost guarantee that.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I think theres some confusion on the cousins contract. NO can offer him the biggest deal, they are the only team that can offer the 5th year and they can offer larger per year raises. The confusion comes in because the deal they can offer is less than the contract he could have got from Sacramento. The new cba has a home town super max that a player is only eligble for if they are drafted by that team or aquired on their rookie contract.

Theres a legit question whether that 5th year will mean much to cousins because he'll be young enough after 4 years to get another massive contract. So he could leave but NO can offer him the most money and the opportunity to play with a monster in Davis. But as others have pointed out they are pretty strapped by the cap with limited avenues to improve.

It will be an intersting summer with him because hes a volatile personality who's actions and motivations arent easy to predict.

[NavLDO]

I think McD had his eyes set on drafting this year, else he would have picked up a PG earlier on. As it is, we stand a real good chance of drafting in the top 8... and that would yield at least Porter, Sexton, or Jackson. May be someone else falls, but if McD has his eyes on Sexton or piping for Young, I dont think there is anyway he makes an all out attempt at Kemba. If he can steal him then may be , but he'd have to feel he wins that deal as his last attempt for a PG blew up in his face. McD is stingy.

I think both Young and sexton have NBA skills and would fit in nicely from the get go. And both would cause a rippling excitement for the organization. I'd like to see more of Sexton... the more I read, the better he sounds. I shied away initially with the Bledsoe comparison from one site... but the dude seems to be a tenacious baller.

Now if both are gone, the consolation prize isn't bad either. This draft seems to have guys who have good BBall IQ and not heavy with projects like Len, Chris, and Bender. Of course then we'd need to get a PG... or would we ? There is no way McD shelves BKnight and just eats that deal. Ideally, a rookie PG would play behind Knight till he takes over. Competition would be good for both. We are set at SG and SF...and Im betting Chandler sticks around. I wouldn't cry if we got Bamba and then picked up one of Shai G-A, Milton, or TBrown with a later pick... those guys are long good athletes who I think would pair well with Book. Thats the main thing... all additions need to compliment Booker.

of course, come March (and the madness) is when the drafters start drooling and guys rise and fall. But not getting Kemba isn't such a blow.... not at what he'll likely cost up front and more so the 25-30 mill a year he'll demand/wants. Why do you think Charlotte is dealing him ? Its not his play, its his upcoming paycheck.

Yeah, but that's because they've blown their money on Batum and Howard. We haven't, and can get Kemba, get a 'big prize' this off-season, then pay Kemba and Booker next season, with JJ and Bender (Assuming we would have to trade Warren, who's on a great contract, and a young player like Bender, plus maybe Miami's pick.)

I'll ask again, as I did last night. Pretend you are Boogie, and McD approaches you over the summer:

"Hey, we've got Booker, Warren, Chriss, JJ and Bender, and this rookie PG and Center...we'll figure out the depth later, but we think this PG kid is good..."

or

"Hey, we've got Kemba and Booker, so 50 pts + 10 assts, with JJ and Chriss at the Forwards...you'll be our Cornerstone at the 5, and complete our Big 3."

What's going to be more enticing to you???

Neither, I'd stay with the Pels if those are my choices.

Cool. He's gonna take a pay cut? Because I showed how that's not gonna happen, unless I'm misinterpreting how the Cap and Luxury tax works for teams.

Rondo won't be playing for them, BTW, nor Clark, or Jameer Nelson, or Cunningham. They don't fit under the Salary/Luxury Tax cap next season.

Or, he can play on the team with the better, same aged PG, better, and younger SG and SF(s)(I'm keeping Warren, since there are those that feel we'll take on contracts rather than give actual assets), and two 20-YO PFs...plus money to go get more talent, if required.(And yes, even if we take contracts, sign Kemba and Boogie, we're still better off than the Pels financially, because we can dump Chandler, BK, and Dudley by the time we need to sign Kemba and Booker, so long as it's not Batum's contract.)

So, you can be 'cute' with your answer there, and yeah, he may not choose us? But unless something drastic happens, I don't see a scenario where Boogie gets a full Max and plays for Pels.

[NavLDO]

The only reason they put Kemba on the block is because they wanted to get rid of long term bad contracts. I've seen a number of people across the forums ignore this.

If we did somehow trade for him, you can be sure we'd have to take back enough bad money to deplete and eat up all of our cap space. It's convenient to ignore to help your argument but that's what they will trade him for. Woj has let it be known what they want to accomplish with a potential trade.

If we traded for him, we have this other long term contract and our team is pretty much a finished product and then soon we'd have a couple of guys on max deals and that would be it for our team.

This is true. Zero chance they deal walker without attaching a bad contract. Zero

Charlotte fans feel like attaching a bad contract devalues Walker and would rather keep the salary in order to extract a better asset.

Yeah, but the fans don't make the call...If I was staring at Batum's abomination of a contract, I would either try to find a sucker to take that attached to Kemba, or if unable to move that one, then try for Howard, or Williams and MKG's contracts together. Why they paid Howard AND Zeller...I have no idea. They should trade one of those.

[bigfoot]

No players like losing. He can't bolt. He could ask for a trade but it's extremely unlikely any time soon.

I listen to the local Phoenix Sports radio often. It has been said several times already that there is concern Booker will not want to continue playing for the Suns if we don't go into win now mode as opposed to waiting for more rookies to develop.

Local radio guys need to fill segments and taking shots at the suns is easy.

Fact of the matter is Booker is about to sign a 5 year extension that will kick in after next season so they have him for 6 1/2 more years. I also believe hes the type that really embraces the 'face of the franchise' role. Hell I think dealing bledsoe and making him the clear 'guy' has boosted his game this season. He seems like more of the d wade than the chriss bosh of his generation.

It's also not like he's had multiple years of playing at a star level and carrying a bad team. Before this season he was playing well for his age but just average overall.

I do think they should move a little more win now come this summer. Not because I worry about losing booker but because timing is right from a cap space and asset consolidation stand point. But to act like that win now mode needs to happen in the next couple weeks seems a bit of an exaggeration.

I agree Booker is going to sign a 5 year deal. Here's the catch. He will have an option for the fifth year. Which means its really a four year contract. Now let's look at the two best players in the league. Lebron stayed in Cleveland 7 years before he left. Durant stayed 9 years before he left. In both situations their teams were in the playoffs and they left because they couldn't win a ring. We have Booker guaranteed for 5 more years. I can't imagine watching him for two more years on a losing team while 18-19 year-old rookies "MAYBE" establish themselves as star players.

And yes the win now mode needs to happen before the trade deadline. Why, because the next window for making a move will be this summer around draft time and we will not be in a great bargaining position with too many draft picks and not enough roster space to hold those players. Even if we stashed players in Europe and brought in a few new rookies it will be hard to trade them to get a star player. Teams want to draft their own players not trade for our rookies. After that we will be waiting for the next December 2018 and February 2019 trade window when players are typically moved. We need players that will be involved in the 2018 training camp to learn the system of whoever we sign as a coach. In addition, having better players makes it possible to lure better coaches to the Suns. What high caliber coach wants to come in with only Booker/Warren plus a bunch of scrubs and no real point guard or a rookie point guard to run his system.

I'm not saying we go and get Kemba but I am saying its high time the Suns make some positive moves. Certainly by the trade deadline.

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[gaspar]

I listen to the local Phoenix Sports radio often. It has been said several times already that there is concern Booker will not want to continue playing for the Suns if we don't go into win now mode as opposed to waiting for more rookies to develop.

Local radio guys need to fill segments and taking shots at the suns is easy.

Fact of the matter is Booker is about to sign a 5 year extension that will kick in after next season so they have him for 6 1/2 more years. I also believe hes the type that really embraces the 'face of the franchise' role. Hell I think dealing bledsoe and making him the clear 'guy' has boosted his game this season. He seems like more of the d wade than the chriss bosh of his generation.

It's also not like he's had multiple years of playing at a star level and carrying a bad team. Before this season he was playing well for his age but just average overall.

I do think they should move a little more win now come this summer. Not because I worry about losing booker but because timing is right from a cap space and asset consolidation stand point. But to act like that win now mode needs to happen in the next couple weeks seems a bit of an exaggeration.

I agree Booker is going to sign a 5 year deal. Here's the catch. He will have an option for the fifth year. Which means its really a four year contract. Now let's look at the two best players in the league. Lebron stayed in Cleveland 7 years before he left. Durant stayed 9 years before he left. In both situations their teams were in the playoffs and they left because they couldn't win a ring. We have Booker guaranteed for 5 more years. I can't imagine watching him for two more years on a losing team while 18-19 year-old rookies "MAYBE" establish themselves as star players.

And yes the win now mode needs to happen before the trade deadline. Why, because the next window for making a move will be this summer around draft time and we will not be in a great bargaining position with too many draft picks and not enough roster space to hold those players. Even if we stashed players in Europe and brought in a few new rookies it will be hard to trade them to get a star player. Teams want to draft their own players not trade for our rookies. After that we will be waiting for the next December 2018 and February 2019 trade window when players are typically moved. We need players that will be involved in the 2018 training camp to learn the system of whoever we sign as a coach. In addition, having better players makes it possible to lure better coaches to the Suns. What high caliber coach wants to come in with only Booker/Warren plus a bunch of scrubs and no real point guard or a rookie point guard to run his system.

I'm not saying we go and get Kemba but I am saying its high time the Suns make some positive moves. Certainly by the trade deadline.

This is such a nonsense.

[bigfoot]

Local radio guys need to fill segments and taking shots at the suns is easy.

Fact of the matter is Booker is about to sign a 5 year extension that will kick in after next season so they have him for 6 1/2 more years. I also believe hes the type that really embraces the 'face of the franchise' role. Hell I think dealing bledsoe and making him the clear 'guy' has boosted his game this season. He seems like more of the d wade than the chriss bosh of his generation.

It's also not like he's had multiple years of playing at a star level and carrying a bad team. Before this season he was playing well for his age but just average overall.

I do think they should move a little more win now come this summer. Not because I worry about losing booker but because timing is right from a cap space and asset consolidation stand point. But to act like that win now mode needs to happen in the next couple weeks seems a bit of an exaggeration.

I agree Booker is going to sign a 5 year deal. Here's the catch. He will have an option for the fifth year. Which means its really a four year contract. Now let's look at the two best players in the league. Lebron stayed in Cleveland 7 years before he left. Durant stayed 9 years before he left. In both situations their teams were in the playoffs and they left because they couldn't win a ring. We have Booker guaranteed for 5 more years. I can't imagine watching him for two more years on a losing team while 18-19 year-old rookies "MAYBE" establish themselves as star players.

And yes the win now mode needs to happen before the trade deadline. Why, because the next window for making a move will be this summer around draft time and we will not be in a great bargaining position with too many draft picks and not enough roster space to hold those players. Even if we stashed players in Europe and brought in a few new rookies it will be hard to trade them to get a star player. Teams want to draft their own players not trade for our rookies. After that we will be waiting for the next December 2018 and February 2019 trade window when players are typically moved. We need players that will be involved in the 2018 training camp to learn the system of whoever we sign as a coach. In addition, having better players makes it possible to lure better coaches to the Suns. What high caliber coach wants to come in with only Booker/Warren plus a bunch of scrubs and no real point guard or a rookie point guard to run his system.

I'm not saying we go and get Kemba but I am saying its high time the Suns make some positive moves. Certainly by the trade deadline.

This is such a nonsense.

So I give examples of Durant and Lebron leaving and it is nonsense? No ... it's reality.

I say that Booker will sign a 5-year max with a player option for his fifth year and it is nonsense ... his agent would be stupid not to have a player option so Booker could increase his max money. Every star player has a player option in the last year of their contract.

I say we can't attract top coaches in our search with scrub PGs ... likely to be true since good coaches want a chance to win.

You didn't even think about it for half a second. SMH and some of the stupidity around here.

[hollywood6964]

I agree Booker is going to sign a 5 year deal. Here's the catch. He will have an option for the fifth year. Which means its really a four year contract. Now let's look at the two best players in the league. Lebron stayed in Cleveland 7 years before he left. Durant stayed 9 years before he left. In both situations their teams were in the playoffs and they left because they couldn't win a ring. We have Booker guaranteed for 5 more years. I can't imagine watching him for two more years on a losing team while 18-19 year-old rookies "MAYBE" establish themselves as star players.

And yes the win now mode needs to happen before the trade deadline. Why, because the next window for making a move will be this summer around draft time and we will not be in a great bargaining position with too many draft picks and not enough roster space to hold those players. Even if we stashed players in Europe and brought in a few new rookies it will be hard to trade them to get a star player. Teams want to draft their own players not trade for our rookies. After that we will be waiting for the next December 2018 and February 2019 trade window when players are typically moved. We need players that will be involved in the 2018 training camp to learn the system of whoever we sign as a coach. In addition, having better players makes it possible to lure better coaches to the Suns. What high caliber coach wants to come in with only Booker/Warren plus a bunch of scrubs and no real point guard or a rookie point guard to run his system.

I'm not saying we go and get Kemba but I am saying its high time the Suns make some positive moves. Certainly by the trade deadline.

This is such a nonsense.

So I give examples of Durant and Lebron leaving and it is nonsense? No ... it's reality.

I say that Booker will sign a 5-year max with a player option for his fifth year and it is nonsense ... his agent would be stupid not to have a player option so Booker could increase his max money. Every star player has a player option in the last year of their contract.

I say we can't attract top coaches in our search with scrub PGs ... likely to be true since good coaches want a chance to win.

You didn't even think about it for half a second. SMH and some of the stupidity around here.

While I think we have more time than the deadline, I do think we need to go all out this summer. Hell a nice pick might help to be used as an asset this summer, if the right player isn't projected from the picks positioning.

[darealjuice]

It's nonsense to act like our window of keeping Devin Booker hinges on going win-now at the trade deadline. You guys act like it's right now or Booker is leaving and we're doomed for eternity. It's not. You sound like freaking Robert Sarver.

[bigfoot]

This is such a nonsense.

So I give examples of Durant and Lebron leaving and it is nonsense? No ... it's reality.

I say that Booker will sign a 5-year max with a player option for his fifth year and it is nonsense ... his agent would be stupid not to have a player option so Booker could increase his max money. Every star player has a player option in the last year of their contract.

I say we can't attract top coaches in our search with scrub PGs ... likely to be true since good coaches want a chance to win.

You didn't even think about it for half a second. SMH and some of the stupidity around here.

While I think we have more time than the deadline, I do think we need to go all out this summer. Hell a nice pick might help to be used as an asset this summer, if the right player isn't projected from the picks positioning.

Sure we have this summer as well ... but if we refuse to even look at options for this trade deadline then we only have this summer as an opportunity to add veteran players. Now think about how many big trades for high quality veteran players go down during the draft. Probably very few. Then we have free agency with the same roster we have now. Who can we lure to Suns with only Booker/Warren. This trade deadline is our prime opportunity to make an improvement. Otherwise I believe it will be hard to attract free agents as summer trades for stars hard to come by and we will be waiting until next Dec/Feb.

[gaspar]

Spoiler:

I agree Booker is going to sign a 5 year deal. Here's the catch. He will have an option for the fifth year. Which means its really a four year contract. Now let's look at the two best players in the league. Lebron stayed in Cleveland 7 years before he left. Durant stayed 9 years before he left. In both situations their teams were in the playoffs and they left because they couldn't win a ring. We have Booker guaranteed for 5 more years. I can't imagine watching him for two more years on a losing team while 18-19 year-old rookies "MAYBE" establish themselves as star players.

And yes the win now mode needs to happen before the trade deadline. Why, because the next window for making a move will be this summer around draft time and we will not be in a great bargaining position with too many draft picks and not enough roster space to hold those players. Even if we stashed players in Europe and brought in a few new rookies it will be hard to trade them to get a star player. Teams want to draft their own players not trade for our rookies. After that we will be waiting for the next December 2018 and February 2019 trade window when players are typically moved. We need players that will be involved in the 2018 training camp to learn the system of whoever we sign as a coach. In addition, having better players makes it possible to lure better coaches to the Suns. What high caliber coach wants to come in with only Booker/Warren plus a bunch of scrubs and no real point guard or a rookie point guard to run his system.

I'm not saying we go and get Kemba but I am saying its high time the Suns make some positive moves. Certainly by the trade deadline.

This is such a nonsense.

So I give examples of Durant and Lebron leaving and it is nonsense? No ... it's reality.

I say that Booker will sign a 5-year max with a player option for his fifth year and it is nonsense ... his agent would be stupid not to have a player option so Booker could increase his max money. Every star player has a player option in the last year of their contract.

I say we can't attract top coaches in our search with scrub PGs ... likely to be true since good coaches want a chance to win.

You didn't even think about it for half a second. SMH and some of the stupidity around here.

No one is questioning that Booker could leave (in 6 years!) or that we have to add some win now pieces soon, but to say that "the win now mode needs to happen before the trade deadline" is absurd.