Trade Ideas (Part III)

chris4celts · Post #521 » by **chris4celts** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:18 pm

I am just curious if you guys would send the Nets pick and something like TT+ Shump to Clippers for DJ and Lou Williams.

Is Nets pick off limits as far as you are concerned?

If unwilling to trade the Nets pick, then you may as well tear it down. Start over.

Knicksfan20 · Post #522 » by **Knicksfan20** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:53 pm

Would u do a trade with CHA?

Kemba + Batum + Dwight +Zeller + Carter Williams

For

Jr Shump Frye Thompson Osman Thomas +BK first

Go from trash to

Howard
Love
Lebron
Batum
Kemba

Bench
Wade
Crowder
Korver
Zeller
Whoever at pg.

Stillwater · Post #523 » by **Stillwater** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:57 pm

Knicksfan20 wrote:Would u do a trade with CHA?

Kemba + Batum + Dwight +Zeller + Carter Williams

For

Jr Shump Frye Thompson Osman Thomas +BK first

Go from trash to

Howard
Love
Lebron
Batum
Kemba

Bench
Wade
Crowder
Korver
Zeller
Whoever at pg.

Zeller is out injured, Batum has under performed for his inflated contract & MCW is basically a bust.
Cav's would not do this because of those reasons, but Charlotte wouldn't ever talk to Altman again if he made that kind of proposal.
Smith is slumping terribly, IT3 is not healthy enough to be playing yet as much as he is,Shumpert is out injured etc.

Knicksfan20 · Post #524 » by **Knicksfan20** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:15 pm

Stillwater wrote:
Knicksfan20 wrote:Would u do a trade with CHA?

Kemba + Batum + Dwight +Zeller + Carter Williams

For

Jr Shump Frye Thompson Osman Thomas +BK first

Go from trash to

Howard
Love
Lebron
Batum
Kemba

Bench
Wade
Crowder
Korver
Zeller
Whoever at pg.

Zeller is out injured, Batum has under performed for his inflated contract & MCW is basically a bust.
Cav's would not do this because of those reasons, but Charlotte wouldn't ever talk to Altman again if he made that kind of proposal.
Smith is slumping terribly, IT3 is not healthy enough to be playing yet as much as he is,Shumpert is out injured etc.

More simple

Kemba + hood for IT JR and First rounder. Kyrie to Kemba isn’t a huge drop off in talent. And u got additional pieces while getting rid of JR. hood is a good player also

Stillwater · Post #525 » by **Stillwater** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:21 pm

Knicksfan20 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:
Knicksfan20 wrote:Would u do a trade with CHA?

Kemba + Batum + Dwight +Zeller + Carter Williams

For

Jr Shump Frye Thompson Osman Thomas +BK first

Go from trash to

Howard
Love
Lebron
Batum
Kemba

Bench
Wade
Crowder
Korver
Zeller
Whoever at pg.

Zeller is out injured, Batum has under performed for his inflated contract & MCW is basically a bust.
Cav's would not do this because of those reasons, but Charlotte wouldn't ever talk to Altman again if he made that kind of proposal.
Smith is slumping terribly, IT3 is not healthy enough to be playing yet as much as he is,Shumpert is out injured etc.

More simple

Kemba + hood for IT JR and First rounder. Kyrie to Kemba isn’t a huge drop off in talent. And u got additional pieces while getting rid of JR. hood is a good player also

Little question a lot of teams have interest in Kemba probably making the $ too high.
Hood although a nice player doesn't necessarily make enough of a difference defensively to pursue, but could be an option if others are not acquired.

Roddy B for 3 · 7/1/2019 (I broke a mirror on 7-1-2012)

No one likes the Warriors, let's take the title.

Deandre Jordan + Nicholas Batum + Michael Kidd-Gilchrist + George Hill

For

BKN 1st +Shump + Fry+ Korver + JR + Osman + Thomoson + Jae

Jordan/Love
Love/LeBron
LeBron/MKG
Batum/Wade
Thomas/Hill

If Batum can regain his form you might not even need Thomas to close games.

Jordan
Love
James
Batum
Hill

You also open roster spots to sign ring chasers.

Post #527 » by **jbk1234** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:46 pm

Roddy B for 3 wrote:No one likes the Warriors, let's take the title.

Deandre Jordan + Nicholas Batum + Michael Kidd-Gilchrist + George Hill

For

BKN 1st +Shump + Fry+ Korver + JR + Osman + Thomoson + Jae

Jordan/Love
Love/LeBron
LeBron/MKG
Batum/Wade
Thomas/Hill

If Batum can regain his form you might not even need Thomas to close games.

Jordan
Love
James
Batum
Hill

You also open roster spots to sign ring chasers.

Cavs aren't taking back Batum's contract. That's just a non-starter.

Post #528 » by **jbk1234** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:54 pm

Stillwater wrote:
Knicksfan20 wrote:Would u do a trade with CHA?

Kemba + Batum + Dwight +Zeller + Carter Williams

For

Jr Shump Frye Thompson Osman Thomas +BK first

Go from trash to

Howard
Love
Lebron
Batum
Kemba

Bench
Wade
Crowder
Korver
Zeller
Whoever at pg.

Zeller is out injured, Batum has under performed for his inflated contract & MCW is basically a bust.
Cav's would not do this because of those reasons, but Charlotte wouldn't ever talk to Altman again if he made that kind of proposal.
Smith is slumping terribly, IT3 is not healthy enough to be playing yet as much as he is,Shumpert is out injured etc.

I wouldn't take back Batum.

Knicksfan20 · Post #529 » by **Knicksfan20** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:58 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
Roddy B for 3 wrote:No one likes the Warriors, let's take the title.

Deandre Jordan + Nicholas Batum + Michael Kidd-Gilchrist + George Hill

For

BKN 1st +Shump + Fry+ Korver + JR + Osman + Thomoson + Jae

Jordan/Love
Love/LeBron
LeBron/MKG
Batum/Wade
Thomas/Hill

If Batum can regain his form you might not even need Thomas to close games.

Jordan
Love
James
Batum
Hill

You also open roster spots to sign ring chasers.

Cavs aren't taking back Batum's contract. That's just a non-starter.

Meanwhile u have Thompson and JR going that way who’s contracts are just as bad. At least Batum plays Defense and can still playmake.

I revised the trade. More simple.

Kemba hood for Thomas JR and the first. Kemba is on Kyries level and is arguably a better fit with Lebron anyways. Jr terrible contract u get rid of and get an upgrade with good.

Post #530 » by **jbk1234** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:12 pm

Knicksfan20 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
Roddy B for 3 wrote:No one likes the Warriors, let's take the title.

Deandre Jordan + Nicholas Batum + Michael Kidd-Gilchrist + George Hill

For

BKN 1st +Shump + Fry+ Korver + JR + Osman + Thomoson + Jae

Jordan/Love
Love/LeBron
LeBron/MKG
Batum/Wade
Thomas/Hill

If Batum can regain his form you might not even need Thomas to close games.

Jordan
Love
James
Batum
Hill

You also open roster spots to sign ring chasers.

Cavs aren't taking back Batum's contract. That's just a non-starter.

Meanwhile u have Thompson and JR going that way who’s contracts are just as bad. At least Batum plays Defense and can still playmake.

I revised the trade. More simple.

Kemba hood for Thomas JR and the first. Kemba is on Kyries level and is arguably a better fit with Lebron anyways. Jr terrible contract u get rid of and get an upgrade with good.

As none of the teams have cap space, that trade wouldn't work. I agree with you re: Kemba though.

Post #531 » by **jbk1234** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:15 pm

chris4celts wrote:I am just curious if you guys would send the Nets pick and something like TT+ Shump to Clippers for DJ and Lou Williams.

Is Nets pick off limits as far as you are concerned?

If unwilling to trade the Nets pick, then you may as well tear it down. Start over.

I wouldn't say it's off limits but the Nets pick for Jordan & Lou Will seems like a sucker's bet to me.

Knicksfan20 · Post #532 » by **Knicksfan20** » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:22 pm

jbk1234 wrote:

As none of the teams have cap space, that trade wouldn't work. I agree with you re: Kemba though.

Except the original trade did work salary wise. Too much traffic though. Second is simpler.

Stillwater · Post #533 » by **Stillwater** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:36 am

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6998563
Insanity has taken over.
whatever picks these teams want...within reason

dalton749 · Post #534 » by **dalton749** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:10 am

Love for ibaka and nogueira

Post #535 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:17 am

dalton749 wrote:Love for ibaka and nogueira

If we trade Love, we're also effectively trading LBJ. I can't see a Love trade until this summer.

buzzkilloton · Post #536 » by **buzzkilloton** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:32 pm

buzzkilloton wrote:Drummond/Bradley for Shump/TT/nets pick/next years 1st

Gives you guys 2 huge pieces to improve your team this season. Drummond/Love/Lebron/Bradley/Rose starting lineup ups your chances to win a title. Even if Lebron leaves you will now have some talent remaining.

After watching the nets play us yesterday this deals off the table for the record. That nets pick is going to be worse then the pistons when its all said and done. Its going to be a 10-12 pick unless luck has it turn into a top 3. The nets are actually good and their playing hard. Russell is back no way that pick offers enough value to get Drummond even with another 1st included.

Good luck in the playoffs!

Roddy B for 3 · 7/1/2019 (I broke a mirror on 7-1-2012)

jbk1234 wrote:
Knicksfan20 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
Cavs aren't taking back Batum's contract. That's just a non-starter.

Meanwhile u have Thompson and JR going that way who’s contracts are just as bad. At least Batum plays Defense and can still playmake.

I revised the trade. More simple.

Kemba hood for Thomas JR and the first. Kemba is on Kyries level and is arguably a better fit with Lebron anyways. Jr terrible contract u get rid of and get an upgrade with good.

As none of the teams have cap space, that trade wouldn't work. I agree with you re: Kemba though.

My original trade only adds 20Million dollars over 4 years over what we s already on your books.

Post #538 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 3:32 pm

Roddy B for 3 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
Knicksfan20 wrote:

Meanwhile u have Thompson and JR going that way who’s contracts are just as bad. At least Batum plays Defense and can still playmake.

I revised the trade. More simple.

Kemba hood for Thomas JR and the first. Kemba is on Kyries level and is arguably a better fit with Lebron anyways. Jr terrible contract u get rid of and get an upgrade with good.

As none of the teams have cap space, that trade wouldn't work. I agree with you re: Kemba though.

My original trade only adds 20Million dollars over 4 years over what we s already on your books.

I'm a firm no on Batum. It would be like extending Shump & JR for two more years at their current salaries. Both of them are essentially expiring next season. If the cost of acquiring Walker is adding Batum, I'm out.

Post #539 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:05 pm

buzzkilloton wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:Drummond/Bradley for Shump/TT/nets pick/next years 1st

Gives you guys 2 huge pieces to improve your team this season. Drummond/Love/Lebron/Bradley/Rose starting lineup ups your chances to win a title. Even if Lebron leaves you will now have some talent remaining.

After watching the nets play us yesterday this deals off the table for the record. That nets pick is going to be worse then the pistons when its all said and done. Its going to be a 10-12 pick unless luck has it turn into a top 3. The nets are actually good and their playing hard. Russell is back no way that pick offers enough value to get Drummond even with another 1st included.

Good luck in the playoffs!

Who did you guys have guarding DiWiddnie on that last shot?

Stillwater · Post #540 » by **Stillwater** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:37 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:
buzzkilloton wrote:Drummond/Bradley for Shump/TT/nets pick/next years 1st

Gives you guys 2 huge pieces to improve your team this season. Drummond/Love/Lebron/Bradley/Rose starting lineup ups your chances to win a title. Even if Lebron leaves you will now have some talent remaining.

After watching the nets play us yesterday this deals off the table for the record. That nets pick is going to be worse then the pistons when its all said and done. Its going to be a 10-12 pick unless luck has it turn into a top 3. The nets are actually good and their playing hard. Russell is back no way that pick offers enough value to get Drummond even with another 1st included.

Good luck in the playoffs!

Who did you guys have guarding DiWiddnie on that last shot?

pump faked got him a Ish & Andre bird then ducked under and sailed it over Andre who was recovering from trying to block the shot from behind ish on the fake.
killer move by Dinwiddie, dumb move by Andre
It will be interesting to see if installing DRuss back in the starting line up lessens Dinwiddie's pt. one can only hope as a Cav's fan.
Nets fans think they will be better with DRuss, but I'm not so sure that will prove true in the near term.He is definitely not the same level defender Dinwiddie is either.