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Re: Willy Hernangomez wants to get traded by the deadline per hoopshype and marca.com 

Post#261 » by ibraheim718 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:32 pm

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Who's going to step to him? The bums that are playing and losing?


It's not about wins and losses. It is about being a professional and respecting your teammates. Willy has accomplished nothing to be feeling so entitled and this chirpy about his PT. What has he earned? What dues has he paid? Dude was carrying teammates luggage to the team bus and making donut runs just last season.


He probably still carries the luggage. He's skilled, but soft. Type of dude that'll look at the floor if you stare him down.


I doubt that the same way I doubt anyone on that team is going to step to him.
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Post#262 » by 2010 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:40 pm

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Who's going to step to him? The bums that are playing and losing?


It's not about wins and losses. It is about being a professional and respecting your teammates. Willy has accomplished nothing to be feeling so entitled and this chirpy about his PT. What has he earned? What dues has he paid? Dude was carrying teammates luggage to the team bus and making donut runs just last season.


Don't front like he's the first player that's asked for a trade. He has the right to speak his mind. He wants to play. At least he ain't content with sitting there waving a towel and cashing a check.


He's likely one of the first that's carrying on like this as a 2nd round pick in only his second year. Find me some comps that proves this is par the course for a guy of his tenure and lack of accomplishments.
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Re: Willy Hernangomez wants to get traded by the deadline per hoopshype and marca.com 

Post#263 » by 2010 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:44 pm

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It's not about wins and losses. It is about being a professional and respecting your teammates. Willy has accomplished nothing to be feeling so entitled and this chirpy about his PT. What has he earned? What dues has he paid? Dude was carrying teammates luggage to the team bus and making donut runs just last season.


He probably still carries the luggage. He's skilled, but soft. Type of dude that'll look at the floor if you stare him down.


I doubt that the same way I doubt anyone on that team is going to step to him.


I didn't say anyone on the team is gonna step to him. I said if I were on the team and had tenure *I WOULD* step to him. This schit would not be going down on my squad from such a young unaccomplished dude this early in his career. You can spin it however you like but this is no positive move on Willy part. He can express his burning desire to play via his effectiveness in practice and the minutes he gets in games. No matter how spotty the mins, he needs to bust his tail on defense every min he gets. We haven't seen that. And if he feels like he is being given a raw deal (which he is not, cuz the trade deadline has not even came and went yet - give management a chance to make an actual deal) he can handle things in-house.
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Re: Willy Hernangomez wants to get traded by the deadline per hoopshype and marca.com 

Post#264 » by Besart19 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:00 am

Kanter and Lee for Tristan Thompson, Shump and pick swap with Nets pick with us getting the higher pick

KOQ, Lance, Baker, Shump and Chi 2nd and for Jabari Parker and Dellavedova

Thompson / Willy / Noah
Porzingis / Beasley / Hicks
Parker / McDermott / Diallo
Hardaway / Doncic / Dotson
Ntilikina / Dellavedova / Burke
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Post#265 » by ibraheim718 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:17 am

2010 wrote:
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It's not about wins and losses. It is about being a professional and respecting your teammates. Willy has accomplished nothing to be feeling so entitled and this chirpy about his PT. What has he earned? What dues has he paid? Dude was carrying teammates luggage to the team bus and making donut runs just last season.


Don't front like he's the first player that's asked for a trade. He has the right to speak his mind. He wants to play. At least he ain't content with sitting there waving a towel and cashing a check.


He's likely one of the first that's carrying on like this as a 2nd round pick in only his second year. Find me some comps that proves this is par the course for a guy of his tenure and lack of accomplishments.


Uh Jahlil Okafor.
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Post#266 » by Thugger HBC » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:21 am

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j4remi wrote:Yall act like Kanter wasn't JUST making comments about his fourth quarter minutes last week.
I think someone specifically asked Kanter that, but this isn't about him. Even Beasley has mentioned playing time.

Willy has been whining all year and its his own fault he got beat out of his own spot.


Willy's complaints came with Berman specifically asking as well. My stance on this was "players want to play, giving the most obvious answer to the question isn't whining" and that holds for Kanter and Beasley as well. But if one player is a cancer for wanting opportunities while guys who are actually getting opportunities wanting more opportunities isn't, I don't think that's treating them equally.

A 2nd year player should be treated the same as players that's been in the league several years longer? Sorry, I just don't endorse this fam.

Not sure where the cancer part is referencing, haven't called him such, but yes....he is whining.

Berman keeps coming to him because he knows he'll get the answer he desires. Players want to play normally, I'll never disagree there. But most especially a 2nd year player would normally just say "I'm waiting my turn, meaning while I'm still working" and end it there.

But Willy isn't doing that, he's playing the entitled role and saying "play me or trade me". And that's not cool.
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Post#267 » by Jay10 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:31 am

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Don't front like he's the first player that's asked for a trade. He has the right to speak his mind. He wants to play. At least he ain't content with sitting there waving a towel and cashing a check.


He's likely one of the first that's carrying on like this as a 2nd round pick in only his second year. Find me some comps that proves this is par the course for a guy of his tenure and lack of accomplishments.


Uh Jahlil Okafor.
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Post#268 » by 2010 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:33 am

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Don't front like he's the first player that's asked for a trade. He has the right to speak his mind. He wants to play. At least he ain't content with sitting there waving a towel and cashing a check.


He's likely one of the first that's carrying on like this as a 2nd round pick in only his second year. Find me some comps that proves this is par the course for a guy of his tenure and lack of accomplishments.


Uh Jahlil Okafor.


Okafor was a 3rd overall pick.
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Post#269 » by ibraheim718 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:38 am

2010 wrote:
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He's likely one of the first that's carrying on like this as a 2nd round pick in only his second year. Find me some comps that proves this is par the course for a guy of his tenure and lack of accomplishments.


Uh Jahlil Okafor.


Okafor was a 3rd overall pick.


So what? Gomez produced more than Okafor in his rookie year than Okafor did so the draft pick qualifier goes out the window.
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Post#270 » by ibraheim718 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:47 am

Let me rephrase that. When Okafor asked for a trade he was riding the pine. Same as Hernangomez.
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Post#271 » by ibraheim718 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:48 am

Just like players have the right to become free agents and go where they please they also have the right to request a team to trade them.
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Post#272 » by Thugger HBC » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:49 am

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Uh Jahlil Okafor.


Okafor was a 3rd overall pick.


So what? Gomez produced more than Okafor in his rookie year than Okafor did so the draft pick qualifier goes out the window.

This statement is totally false fam.
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Post#273 » by 2010 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:51 am

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Uh Jahlil Okafor.


Okafor was a 3rd overall pick.


So what? Gomez produced more than Okafor in his rookie year than Okafor did so the draft pick qualifier goes out the window.


Okafor rookie year he averaged 17.5 PTS | 50.8% FG | 7.0 REB | 1.4 BLK

His production actually topped Willy's so not sure how you figure Willy produced more.

Nevertheless with that said Okafor sat for far longer than Willy and was a more highly touted player at a much larger salary before he went to the media constantly.

Willy been whining since OCTOBER. First week of the season he was already talking about his mins. Which indicates he was not willing to earn his spot at all. He felt entitled due to what he accomplished in his own mind the previous season. If the trade deadline came and went with Kanter and KOQ still here and ahead of him I could understand it a bit more. But since he been crying since OCTOBER it shows he just acting like a whiny spoiled entitled punk.
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Post#274 » by 2010 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:53 am

ibraheim718 wrote:Just like players have the right to become free agents and go where they please they also have the right to request a team to trade them.


And the team has a right to ignore that request. Same as the head coach has the right to play who he feels gives him the best shot at winning. And right now, that's not Willy.
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Post#275 » by ibraheim718 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:54 am

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Okafor was a 3rd overall pick.


So what? Gomez produced more than Okafor in his rookie year than Okafor did so the draft pick qualifier goes out the window.

This statement is totally false fam.


I already rephrased what I said.
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Post#276 » by ibraheim718 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:55 am

2010 wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:Just like players have the right to become free agents and go where they please they also have the right to request a team to trade them.


And the team has a right to ignore that request. Same as the head coach has the right to play who he feels gives him the best shot at winning. And right now, that's not Willy.


I don't see the problem then. Why don't you go to a Knicks game and step to him yourself?
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Post#277 » by ibraheim718 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:56 am

I sense that if Hernangomez wasn't from Europe this stepping to him garbage would have never been brought up.
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Post#278 » by ibraheim718 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:58 am

Who gives a flying fuq if he was a free agent, in the league for 90 years.. whatever. He can ask for afuqing trade. Jesus Christ the hypocrisy on this board is unreal.
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Post#279 » by Thugger HBC » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:00 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
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So what? Gomez produced more than Okafor in his rookie year than Okafor did so the draft pick qualifier goes out the window.

This statement is totally false fam.


I already rephrased what I said.

I see. Don't think the situations are quite the same. A top pick carries responsibility from the player picked and the team. The first two seasons, even though I'm well documented as not liking Jah, he played decently to his billing. I do think Philly did him wrong tho.

I'm not seeing the connect when it comes to Willy.
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Post#280 » by 2010 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:03 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
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ibraheim718 wrote:Just like players have the right to become free agents and go where they please they also have the right to request a team to trade them.


And the team has a right to ignore that request. Same as the head coach has the right to play who he feels gives him the best shot at winning. And right now, that's not Willy.


I don't see the problem then. Why don't you go to a Knicks game and step to him yourself?


You don't see the problem, but Willy clearly does :lol:

As for your second sentence. Do I share a locker room with him? Am I a leader of the team? I clearly said "If I was on the team and had tenure I would step to him"

You asking me to attend a Knicks game and end up like Oakley is dumb. But if you take so much offense to me calling Willy's whiny moves for what they are, it would make just as much sense if I told you:

Spoiler:
"Why don't you come meet me and step to me instead of defending Willy vehemently over a messageboard?"


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