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Re: Willy Hernangomez wants to get traded by the deadline per hoopshype and marca.com 

Post#281 » by 2010 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:04 am

ibraheim718 wrote:I sense that if Hernangomez wasn't from Europe this stepping to him garbage would have never been brought up.


Now you bringing ethnicity into it. You reaching like hell bro :lol:

What does him being European have to do with saying if I was a team leader and he kept on about this schit I would step to him?

You "claim" you played organized ball at a high level. You never checked a teammate who was exhibiting toxic behavior detrimental to the team? Ohhhh, maybe if you did ever step to a player, this is your thought process cuz you are self-projecting. Like maybe you would cherry pick teammates. Only picking on soft dudes.

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Post#282 » by ibraheim718 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:07 am

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Thugger HBC wrote:This statement is totally false fam.


I already rephrased what I said.

I see. Don't think the situations are quite the same. A top pick carries responsibility from the player picked and the team. The first two seasons, even though I'm well documented as not liking Jah, he played decently to his billing. I do think Philly did him wrong tho.

I'm not seeing the connect when it comes to Willy.


It really doesn't need to get overcomplicated.. player asks for trade.. other players have done it before. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.
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Post#283 » by Thugger HBC » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:10 am

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I already rephrased what I said.

I see. Don't think the situations are quite the same. A top pick carries responsibility from the player picked and the team. The first two seasons, even though I'm well documented as not liking Jah, he played decently to his billing. I do think Philly did him wrong tho.

I'm not seeing the connect when it comes to Willy.


It really doesn't need to get overcomplicated.. player asks for trade.. other players have done it before. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.

Players asking for trades is normally frowned upon.
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Re: Willy Hernangomez wants to get traded by the deadline per hoopshype and marca.com 

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ibraheim718 wrote:I sense that if Hernangomez wasn't from Europe this stepping to him garbage would have never been brought up.


Now you bringing ethnicity into it. You reaching like hell bro :lol:

What does him being European have to do with saying if I was a team leader and he kept on about this schit I would step to him?

You "claim" you played organized ball at a high level. You never checked a teammate who was exhibiting toxic behavior detrimental to the team? Ohhhh, maybe if you did ever step to a player, this is your thought process cuz you are self-projecting. Like maybe you would cherry pick teammates. Only picking on soft dudes.

:lol:


I wasn't that kind of player. I turned trash into gold. If a guy was on my team I empowered him. It was the other team I had problems with. None of this has anything to do with the point anyway.

Any player is entitled to ask for a trade. The kid wants to play. I respect that.
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Post#285 » by ibraheim718 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:12 am

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Thugger HBC wrote:I see. Don't think the situations are quite the same. A top pick carries responsibility from the player picked and the team. The first two seasons, even though I'm well documented as not liking Jah, he played decently to his billing. I do think Philly did him wrong tho.

I'm not seeing the connect when it comes to Willy.


It really doesn't need to get overcomplicated.. player asks for trade.. other players have done it before. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.

Players asking for trades is normally frowned upon.


That's a lesson for him to learn. Doesn't mean he doesn't have the right to ask for one. Iman Chumpert asked for a trade... Lol
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Post#286 » by ibraheim718 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:15 am

I couldn't sit on the bench like that either. Id go pull a Derrick Rose and go AWOL. It's clear as day he'll go back to Europe anyway.
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It really doesn't need to get overcomplicated.. player asks for trade.. other players have done it before. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.

Players asking for trades is normally frowned upon.


That's a lesson for him to learn. Doesn't mean he doesn't have the right to ask for one. Iman Chumpert asked for a trade... Lol

If the goal is to play, that wont guarantee he will.
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Post#288 » by ibraheim718 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:17 am

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Thugger HBC wrote:Players asking for trades is normally frowned upon.


That's a lesson for him to learn. Doesn't mean he doesn't have the right to ask for one. Iman Chumpert asked for a trade... Lol

If the goal is to play, that wont guarantee he will.


I'm pretty clear on this one. Any player can ask for a trade whenever he wants.
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Post#289 » by 2010 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:20 am

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ibraheim718 wrote:I sense that if Hernangomez wasn't from Europe this stepping to him garbage would have never been brought up.


Now you bringing ethnicity into it. You reaching like hell bro :lol:

What does him being European have to do with saying if I was a team leader and he kept on about this schit I would step to him?

You "claim" you played organized ball at a high level. You never checked a teammate who was exhibiting toxic behavior detrimental to the team? Ohhhh, maybe if you did ever step to a player, this is your thought process cuz you are self-projecting. Like maybe you would cherry pick teammates. Only picking on soft dudes.

:lol:


I wasn't that kind of player. I turned trash into gold. If a guy was on my team I empowered him. It was the other team I had problems with. None of this has anything to do with the point anyway.

Any player is entitled to ask for a trade. The kid wants to play. I respect that.


I am all for motivating others. But Willy's stance is marginalizing Kanter, KOQ, and Noah to an extent. He is being a bit disrespectful to the vets in front of him who had to wait their chance. KOQ sat out of the rotation for a portion of last year. He was behind Noah and Willy on the depth chart for a while. He did not speak to the media once about his PT.

I respect players wanting to play. But I also respect being a team player even more. Willy is essentially putting himself above the team without even being willing to endure the smallest of adversity or letting the process play out naturally.
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Post#290 » by Thugger HBC » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:21 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
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That's a lesson for him to learn. Doesn't mean he doesn't have the right to ask for one. Iman Chumpert asked for a trade... Lol

If the goal is to play, that wont guarantee he will.


I'm pretty clear on this one. Any player can ask for a trade whenever he wants.

But it isn't about either one of us. Willy claims he wants to play. Making a trade demand doesn't accomplish that. He can't make the team trade him or any team play him.
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Post#291 » by 2010 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:22 am

ibraheim718 wrote:
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That's a lesson for him to learn. Doesn't mean he doesn't have the right to ask for one. Iman Chumpert asked for a trade... Lol

If the goal is to play, that wont guarantee he will.


I'm pretty clear on this one. Any player can ask for a trade whenever he wants.


Let me ask you this fam. So do you believe a player can ask for a trade without going to the media and sounding off? What is stopping Willy from asking for a trade in private and letting Perry do his job? If that is truly what he really wants.
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Post#292 » by Thugger HBC » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:23 am

ibraheim718 wrote:I couldn't sit on the bench like that either. Id go pull a Derrick Rose and go AWOL. It's clear as day he'll go back to Europe anyway.

I could easily sit on an NBA bench, collect my checks, shut my mouth and work on my game. I could EASILY do that.
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Post#293 » by ibraheim718 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:28 am

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ibraheim718 wrote:I couldn't sit on the bench like that either. Id go pull a Derrick Rose and go AWOL. It's clear as day he'll go back to Europe anyway.

I could easily sit on an NBA bench, collect my checks, shut my mouth and work on my game. I could EASILY do that.


Everyone is different. I couldn't do it. I'm a modest man.. I'd rather go play elsewhere for less.
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Post#294 » by Thugger HBC » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:32 am

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ibraheim718 wrote:I couldn't sit on the bench like that either. Id go pull a Derrick Rose and go AWOL. It's clear as day he'll go back to Europe anyway.

I could easily sit on an NBA bench, collect my checks, shut my mouth and work on my game. I could EASILY do that.


Everyone is different. I couldn't do it. I'm a modest man.. I'd rather go play elsewhere for less.

I'm modest as well, but I'd ride pine in a league I believe I belong in and get paid for it, and just wait for my chance, than to play somewhere I know I'm betting than and make less doing it.
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Post#295 » by ibraheim718 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:33 am

2010 wrote:
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Thugger HBC wrote:If the goal is to play, that wont guarantee he will.


I'm pretty clear on this one. Any player can ask for a trade whenever he wants.


Let me ask you this fam. So do you believe a player can ask for a trade without going to the media and sounding off? What is stopping Willy from asking for a trade in private and letting Perry do his job? If that is truly what he really wants.


First let's go into what he actually said..

“I think there will be a change: I hope for the better, it can’t get worse than this,” Hernangomez said, as per MARCA, a Spanish editorial. “I would like to stay here, but I don’t close doors to anything. What I want is to play. There’s a few weeks left till the trade deadline and I want to play.”

“I’ve enjoyed the experience of playing in New York. I love the city, the fans, my teammates . . . but I’m 23, I’m ambitious, I’m hungry and want to play. I don’t care where. I’m ready for whatever and working to change this situation and play.”


What were his first quotes about asking for a trade? And remember his name was already being floated as someone who was garnering interest.
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Post#296 » by ibraheim718 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:35 am

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Thugger HBC wrote:I could easily sit on an NBA bench, collect my checks, shut my mouth and work on my game. I could EASILY do that.


Everyone is different. I couldn't do it. I'm a modest man.. I'd rather go play elsewhere for less.

I'm modest as well, but I'd ride pine in a league I believe I belong in and get paid for it, and just wait for my chance, than to play somewhere I know I'm betting than and make less doing it.


But you have to put yourself in his shoes. Maybe he feels like he's better than O'quinn and he feels like the coach isn't giving him a fair chance. Maybe he feels he is working his butt off. Maybe he feels like he's got one chance to show he belongs before he goes back home.
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Post#297 » by Thugger HBC » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:41 am

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Everyone is different. I couldn't do it. I'm a modest man.. I'd rather go play elsewhere for less.

I'm modest as well, but I'd ride pine in a league I believe I belong in and get paid for it, and just wait for my chance, than to play somewhere I know I'm betting than and make less doing it.


But you have to put yourself in his shoes. Maybe he feels like he's better than O'quinn and he feels like the coach isn't giving him a fair chance. Maybe he feels he is working his butt off. Maybe he feels like he's got one chance to show he belongs before he goes back home.

I have no issue with that thinking, no player would ever admit someone is better than them. I'd expect no less on that front.

He should believe those things, but I do think a player should also wait for their turn, and continue working for it, especially a 2nd year player.
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Post#298 » by Nykbacker » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:53 am

Wily absolutely should be playing Kyle OQuinns minutes. How can anyone argue otherwise? Hornacek is sabotaging the kids career.
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Post#299 » by 2010 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:59 am

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2010 wrote:
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I'm pretty clear on this one. Any player can ask for a trade whenever he wants.


Let me ask you this fam. So do you believe a player can ask for a trade without going to the media and sounding off? What is stopping Willy from asking for a trade in private and letting Perry do his job? If that is truly what he really wants.


First let's go into what he actually said..

“I think there will be a change: I hope for the better, it can’t get worse than this,” Hernangomez said, as per MARCA, a Spanish editorial. “I would like to stay here, but I don’t close doors to anything. What I want is to play. There’s a few weeks left till the trade deadline and I want to play.”

“I’ve enjoyed the experience of playing in New York. I love the city, the fans, my teammates . . . but I’m 23, I’m ambitious, I’m hungry and want to play. I don’t care where. I’m ready for whatever and working to change this situation and play.”


What were his first quotes about asking for a trade? And remember his name was already being floated as someone who was garnering interest.


I have posted links to this several times. He has been saying the same thing consistently in a variation of different words since OCTOBER. First week into the season. He has never said "Play me or trade me". Rarely does anyone say that anymore. Not even Melo said "Trade Me". Neither did Eric Bledsoe. But he is making it crystal clear he wants to play NOW or he prefers to be traded. He said himself he doesn't care where. Well hold him to his word and send his ass down to the G League

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Post#300 » by ibraheim718 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:01 am

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Thugger HBC wrote:I'm modest as well, but I'd ride pine in a league I believe I belong in and get paid for it, and just wait for my chance, than to play somewhere I know I'm betting than and make less doing it.


But you have to put yourself in his shoes. Maybe he feels like he's better than O'quinn and he feels like the coach isn't giving him a fair chance. Maybe he feels he is working his butt off. Maybe he feels like he's got one chance to show he belongs before he goes back home.

I have no issue with that thinking, no player would ever admit someone is better than them. I'd expect no less on that front.

He should believe those things, but I do think a player should also wait for their turn, and continue working for it, especially a 2nd year player.


Yeah that's the advice I'd give him but I just don't have a problem with him choosing to request a trade.

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