Woj: CHA making Kemba available in trade talks

catch20two · Post #261 » by **catch20two** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:54 pm

I think keeping the current core and getting a new coach would be the best option. However the trial period for if that new coach is the solution wouldn’t be answered until the middle of next season.

It’s just a messed up situation all-around and people wonder why I’ve been complaining for the past 5 seasons except for that 3 month span from February-April in 2016.

Snidely FC · Post #262 » by **Snidely FC** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:20 pm

Kemba Walker's name has come up in trade rumors. He is the team's all-time leader in 3-pointers, and he ranks second in points. Over the past three seasons, six players have averaged 20 points and five assists per game each season: Stephen Curry, James Harden, LeBron James, Damian Lillard, Russell Westbrook and Walker.

catch20two · Post #263 » by **catch20two** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:42 pm

Snidely FC wrote:
Over the past three seasons, six players have averaged 20 points and five assists per game each season: Stephen Curry, James Harden, LeBron James, Damian Lillard, Russell Westbrook and Walker.

Underrated.

Post #264 » by **fatlever** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:40 pm

catch20two wrote:I think keeping the current core and getting a new coach would be the best option. However the trial period for if that new coach is the solution wouldn’t be answered until the middle of next season.

It’s just a messed up situation all-around and people wonder why I’ve been complaining for the past 5 seasons except for that 3 month span from February-April in 2016.

it would make sense to try a different coach before blowing up an expensive roster of guys in their prime. but hard to fire clifford this year given the odd circumstances. might as well ride it out, get new coach/gm in summer and give it one last ride.

Braggins · Post #265 » by **Braggins** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:51 pm

Temporarily "deputize" me as GM and I will fire Clifford right now and tell him to suck it.

catch20two · Post #266 » by **catch20two** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:53 pm

Braggins wrote:Temporarily "deputize" me as GM and I will fire Clifford right now and tell him to suck it.

And let Silas be the interim coach the rest of the season?

Braggins · Post #267 » by **Braggins** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:58 pm

catch20two wrote:
Braggins wrote:Temporarily "deputize" me as GM and I will fire Clifford right now and tell him to suck it.

And let Silas be the interim coach the rest of the season?

Sure, but with expressed orders to prioritize developing Monk and even letting guys like MKG/Lamb/Cody experiment/develop with their games.

I've been saying for a while that I'd keep the coaches around til the end of the season to help us tank, but they've already done enough in that regard and I think that for the remainder of this year all we need is someone who will play and develop the younger guys.

I'm also terrified that that Clifford still has MJ's support (they are like dumb and dumber) and isn't going to be fired at all anytime soon. I just want him gone asap so I don't have to worry about it anymore.

catch20two · Post #268 » by **catch20two** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:02 am

Braggins wrote:
catch20two wrote:
Braggins wrote:Temporarily "deputize" me as GM and I will fire Clifford right now and tell him to suck it.

And let Silas be the interim coach the rest of the season?

Sure, but with expressed orders to prioritize developing Monk and even letting guys like MKG/Lamb/Cody experiment/develop with their games.

I've been saying for a while that I'd keep the coaches around til the end of the season to help us tank, but they've already done enough in that regard and I think that for the remainder of this year all we need is someone who will play and develop the younger guys.

I'm also terrified that that Clifford still has MJ's support (they are like dumb and dumber) and isn't going to be fired at all anytime soon. I just want him gone asap so I don't have to worry about it anymore.

I honestly think doing that would help us win games rather than continue our losing ways lol.

Braggins · Post #269 » by **Braggins** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:07 am

catch20two wrote:
Braggins wrote:
catch20two wrote:And let Silas be the interim coach the rest of the season?

Sure, but with expressed orders to prioritize developing Monk and even letting guys like MKG/Lamb/Cody experiment/develop with their games.

I've been saying for a while that I'd keep the coaches around til the end of the season to help us tank, but they've already done enough in that regard and I think that for the remainder of this year all we need is someone who will play and develop the younger guys.

I'm also terrified that that Clifford still has MJ's support (they are like dumb and dumber) and isn't going to be fired at all anytime soon. I just want him gone asap so I don't have to worry about it anymore.

I honestly think doing that would help us win games rather than continue our losing ways lol.

Thats possible, but the hope would be that Monk's defense combined with some creative tank maneuvering would lose us the games we need to lose. If it looks like we are going to win you can just throw MCW and JOB in there with Monk and as long as Monk doesn't get too hot surely we'd find a way to lose. Tank harder lol.

BlackOutBuzz · Post #270 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:12 am

fatlever wrote:leonard is mad at spurs... lets go get him

kemba+batum+mkg+2018 1st
for
leonard+mills+gasol

And Pop just benched Parker because "it was time to try something else at point guard."

Just sayin.

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NYG · Post #271 » by **NYG** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:37 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
NYG wrote:If the Knicks made Frank Ntilikina available, but refused to take on any one additional from Charlotte besides Kemba Walker and refused to add a draft pick, do they have any chance of landing him?

Draft pick would have to most definitely be involved. Preferably unprotected/

If the Knicks drew the line at...

Frank Ntilikina, Ron Baker and Conditional Knicks 1st (2018: Top 3 Protected / 2019: Top 1 Protected / 2020: Unprotected) for Kemba Walker

... would the Hornets take it or leave it?

316Hornets · Post #272 » by **316Hornets** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:56 am

NYG wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
NYG wrote:If the Knicks made Frank Ntilikina available, but refused to take on any one additional from Charlotte besides Kemba Walker and refused to add a draft pick, do they have any chance of landing him?

Draft pick would have to most definitely be involved. Preferably unprotected/

If the Knicks drew the line at...

Frank Ntilikina, Ron Baker and Conditional Knicks 1st (2018: Top 3 Protected / 2019: Top 1 Protected / 2020: Unprotected) for Kemba Walker

... would the Hornets take it or leave it?

Knicks won't do that. They don't even want to give up Frank. I'm not even sure if we're still looking to trade Kemba.

Liver_Pooty · Post #273 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:02 am

NYG wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
NYG wrote:If the Knicks made Frank Ntilikina available, but refused to take on any one additional from Charlotte besides Kemba Walker and refused to add a draft pick, do they have any chance of landing him?

Draft pick would have to most definitely be involved. Preferably unprotected/

If the Knicks drew the line at...

Frank Ntilikina, Ron Baker and Conditional Knicks 1st (2018: Top 3 Protected / 2019: Top 1 Protected / 2020: Unprotected) for Kemba Walker

... would the Hornets take it or leave it?

I think we would. I highly doubt N.Y. would

NYG · Post #274 » by **NYG** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:20 am

What are the pros and cons of Kemba Walker? How good is he?

Like if I said how does he rate versus a PG of Damian Lillard’s caliber and you had to choose Kemba is better than Lillard or Kemba is worse than Lillard, which would you choose?

316Hornets · Post #275 » by **316Hornets** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:35 am

NYG wrote:What are the pros and cons of Kemba Walker? How good is he?

Like if I said how does he rate versus a PG of Damian Lillard’s caliber and you had to choose Kemba is better than Lillard or Kemba is worse than Lillard, which would you choose?

I don't watch a lot of Portland games, but Kemba is obviously better at driving to the rim. His 3 point shot isn't as strong as Lillard, but I'd say he isn't far off in that. Overall, Kemba is the better player, but not by much.

mrknowitall215 · Post #276 » by **mrknowitall215** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:02 am

316Hornets wrote:
NYG wrote:What are the pros and cons of Kemba Walker? How good is he?

Like if I said how does he rate versus a PG of Damian Lillard’s caliber and you had to choose Kemba is better than Lillard or Kemba is worse than Lillard, which would you choose?

I don't watch a lot of Portland games, but Kemba is obviously better at driving to the rim. His 3 point shot isn't as strong as Lillard, but I'd say he isn't far off in that. Overall, Kemba is the better player, but not by much.

It's arguable either way. I used to get into some heated debates on this board about Kemba versus Lillard. The innate difference between the two players is that Lillard attempts two more 3-point shots per game while Kemba is more impressive intangibly

NYG · Post #277 » by **NYG** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:13 am

How many teams have 2 players better than Kemba Walker and Kristaps Porzingis currently?

316Hornets · Post #278 » by **316Hornets** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:19 am

NYG wrote:How many teams have 2 players better than Kemba Walker and Kristaps Porzingis currently?

Golden State - Curry & Durant
Houston - Harden & Paul
New Orleans - Davis & Cousins
Boston - Irving & Hortford
Minnesota - KAT & Butler

HornetJail · Post #279 » by **HornetJail** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:25 am

316Hornets wrote:
NYG wrote:How many teams have 2 players better than Kemba Walker and Kristaps Porzingis currently?

Golden State - Curry & Durant
Houston - Harden & Paul
New Orleans - Davis & Cousins
Boston - Irving & Hortford
Minnesota - KAT & Butler

OKC - Westbrook & Paul George

NYG · Post #280 » by **NYG** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:27 am

316Hornets wrote:
NYG wrote:How many teams have 2 players better than Kemba Walker and Kristaps Porzingis currently?

Golden State - Curry & Durant
Houston - Harden & Paul
New Orleans - Davis & Cousins
Boston - Irving & Hortford
Minnesota - KAT & Butler

LeBron and Love, Westbrook and George, Leonard and Aldridge, DeRozan and Lowry, Beal and Wall

Those would each have a case too. I think the Knicks would be more likely to give a fair offer for Kemba Walker than Knicks fans would like or Hornets fans seem to expect.