KIDD FIRED - Hughes/Grgurich also fired - Vin Baker Hired

[trwi7]

Michaels is pushing that Horst one man pushed Kidd out.

Where Michael's story needs a lot of fill in is how we got to swearing at practice and Horst saying "I'm done" with Horst and Feigin taking Kidd to lunch and telling him he's being lot go. Doesn't add up.

He said it wasn't official at the lunch but "the writing was on the wall" and became official when all three owners agreed to it (Edens and Dinan were in Milwaukee yesterday.)

[worthlessBucks]

So do I, because he was so inexperienced, was lucky to get this job, and would have been seriously jeopardizing it to try and undermine Lasry's boy. He may well have been on board with it, as everyone observant was, but Lasry or Edens + Dinan almost surely were the impetus first.

Yeah. Really, they pay him a bare bones salary, he was what was acceptable to all parties left after a botched search, and he answers to a bunch of billionaire owners. The amount of pull he has has to be minimal, he's not dictating anything on his own.

[Ron Swanson]

So Hammond gets rebuked by ownership when he asks for permission to fire Kidd but they allow his protege, who was seen at the time of his hiring as nothing more than a patsy of LED and Kidd, to do it less than a year later? Kind of ironic.

[Balls2TheWalls]

Michaels is pushing that Horst one man pushed Kidd out.

Where Michael's story needs a lot of fill in is how we got to swearing at practice and Horst saying "I'm done" with Horst and Feigin taking Kidd to lunch and telling him he's being lot go. Doesn't add up.

He said it wasn't official at the lunch but "the writing was on the wall" and became official when all three owners agreed to it (Edens and Dinan were in Milwaukee yesterday.)

What Michaels just said is that Horst fired him and then broke it to the ownership. It is odd. I doubt that any real story comes out from the organization side. Kidd will leak garbage stories to save his ass.

[worthlessBucks]

So Hammond gets rebuked by ownership when he asks for permission to fire Kidd but they allow his protege, who was seen at the time of his hiring as nothing more than a patsy of LED and Kidd, to do it less than a year later? Kind of ironic.

The best fan fiction folks.

[randy84]

Michaels is pushing that Horst one man pushed Kidd out.

Sincerely doubt.

So do I, because he was so inexperienced, was lucky to get this job, and would have been seriously jeopardizing it to try and undermine Lasry's boy. He may well have been on board with it, as everyone observant was, but Lasry or Edens + Dinan almost surely were the impetus first.

Sounds like the Lasry relationship was getting strained. Let's not forget that Kidd has a big ego. It's one thing to have a big ego when you are getting results, but he wasn't getting the results that everyone expected. This has to be a big ego blow. Add that on top of some of the players he wanted that flamed out and I am sure ownership was beginning to question every move Kidd made. Especially when the national media began questioning his coaching ability.

As was mentioned, getting fired and keeping $12 million is a whole lot better than quitting.

[jakecronus8]

I really hope someone from the Bucks leaked that stuff about this Kidd blow up. They hailed him as classy on his way out and he blabs to Shelburne about Giannis calling him. Get f*cked you wife beating POS. I really hope if someone is stupid enough to fire that cro magnon man ahead it's a division rival so we can consistently sh*t all over him.

ETA: ironic that this reeks of the Larry Sanders situation. In other words, I don't want to be here but pay me anyways. Seriously I didnt think my opinion of Kidd could get lower. Wow was I wrong.

[Dellyhas2gfs]

Remember the last time a Matthew Dellavedova team fired the head coach and replaced him with the assistant halfway through the season.

[Bernman]

So Hammond gets rebuked by ownership when he asks for permission to fire Kidd but they allow his protege, who was seen at the time of his hiring as nothing more than a patsy of LED and Kidd, to do it less than a year later? Kind of ironic.

Or you could you say it's kind of not believable. At best the owners were on the fence after the blow-up with players and asked for a consult. More likely he just helped deliver the bad news in case Kidd wanted to throw a drink at him, is now being made to be the one who takes the heat publicly if there's any, and this carries over to the future when they probably continue to pull the strings behind the scenes.

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Not a good career move for Kilpatrick to dance on Kidd's grave, but his happy dance does hint at some of the soap opera things being discussed here.

Hoping for better days ahead and a more collegial tone here.

Oh wow. This wasn't a smart move, but it tells a story that I didn't expect.

[paulpressey25]

Feign was involved too? Not surprising, but interesting all the same.

I have no idea. I just keep hearing blurbs yesterday about some lunch at a Whitefish Bay pizza restaurant where Feigin and Horst fired Kidd.

And frankly that makes the most sense, because one gets the impression that Feigin is the key contact between the employees on the ground in Milwaukee with LED.

It also lines up with things I've been told in the past that Feigin sometimes communicates difficult things to Kidd on behalf of ownership. Of course since Feigin is team President, good to know he's now filling the basketball roles.He seems the most competent of the whole crew over there.

[ReasonablySober]

I don't understand why it's so hard to believe that a new GM (one who was with the Bucks longer than the coach) would want an underachieving polarizing coach gone, or that the GM would have the power to do so.

Nothing being leaked is at all surprising.

[VooDoo7]

Not a bad way to celebrate.

Not so good for the farm animal.

Did the animal complain? No means no Voodoo!

Animals. With an "s".

[JimmyTheKid]

Michaels is pushing that Horst one man pushed Kidd out.

Sincerely doubt.

Yeah, no way. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Horst was relieved of his duties with the rest of the coaching staff after the season.

[SirChurros]

I don't understand why it's so hard to believe that a new GM (one who was with the Bucks longer than the coach) would want an underachieving polarizing coach gone, or that the GM would have the power to do so.

Nothing being leaked is at all surprising.

Agreed. Horst is an easy target because of comments about hitting the ground like a rocket and his past work at FedEx, but I'd say he has a passing grade right now as a GM. That's not saying a ton, but he is certainly better than any of us expected.

[randy84]

The feeling I get is that Horst and Edens are one team and Lasry and Kidd are on the other. Dinan is kind of the middle man. So I could see a scenario where Edens has been wanting to get rid of Kidd and this blowup gives him the cover to do it. Lasry and Dinan are sick of fighting with Edens and begrudgingly give him the OK to do it. They tell Feigin to go with Horst since Horst has never hired or fired anyone before.

[Matches Malone]

If Horst really did fire kidd off the cuff (doubtful) then maybe he does have more power within the organization than we think and that ownership is starting to let the basketball people make basketball decisions? (Wishful thinking)

[JimmyTheKid]

I don't understand why it's so hard to believe that a new GM (one who was with the Bucks longer than the coach) would want an underachieving polarizing coach gone, or that the GM would have the power to do so.

Nothing being leaked is at all surprising.

Agreed. Horst is an easy target because of comments about hitting the ground like a rocket and his past work at FedEx, but I'd say he has a passing grade right now as a GM. That's not saying a ton, but he is certainly better than any of us expected.

He's an easy target because he was a "reluctant compromise" after a botched GM search. Not exactly a guy you put all your eggs in with the future of the franchise and the future of Giannis.

[ReasonablySober]

I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't think Horst just up and fired Kidd without having to clear it with ownership of course. But Horst absolutely had more power in that organization than Kidd (after years of ugly basketball and ugly relationships) did as of yesterday.

[SirChurros]

I don't understand why it's so hard to believe that a new GM (one who was with the Bucks longer than the coach) would want an underachieving polarizing coach gone, or that the GM would have the power to do so.

Nothing being leaked is at all surprising.

Agreed. Horst is an easy target because of comments about hitting the ground like a rocket and his past work at FedEx, but I'd say he has a passing grade right now as a GM. That's not saying a ton, but he is certainly better than any of us expected.

He's an easy target because he was a "reluctant compromise" after a botched GM search. Not exactly a guy you put all your eggs in with the future of the franchise and the future of Giannis.

The fact that he was a compromise after a botched GM search is completely irrelevant when we're discussing Jon Horst the GM, though.