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Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread

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Are you happy with the draft?

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Re: Absurdly early 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#881 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:25 pm

jayu70 wrote:Coaches coach.

You've just got a bug in your rug about Bud.



I really don't.

I just wondered how the Owner, PBO and a player could skip away to see this game live, but not the man who'd be coaching him in a few months.

Now I'm also wondering how C-Viv got the cushy job to cover Duke CBB games after an underwhelming run as Hawks Beat Reporter.
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Post#882 » by kg01 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:26 pm

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kg01 wrote:See, if you weren't trying to force-feed an agenda you would've realized it wasn't in town. So there.


Those didn't feel like Nerf Darts.


Them weren't nerf darts, bro. You should be asleep any minute now. No telling where you'll wake up. :)

To follow jayu's theme, you've clearly got a bee in your bonnet about Budz.
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Post#883 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:26 pm

I will however spend the next week digging up all the info I can on all the Duke prospects...
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Post#884 » by kg01 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:29 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:I will however spend the next week digging up all the info I can on all the Duke prospects...


Ugh. Please don't. I've seen all the Carlos Boozer highlights I ever wanna see.
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Post#885 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:31 pm

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Jamaaliver wrote:I will however spend the next week digging up all the info I can on all the Duke prospects...


Ugh. Please don't. I've seen all the Carlos Boozer highlights I ever wanna see.


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Post#886 » by thr3ep01nte4 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:35 pm

I wonder has Duke produced a player who was/is the best player on a legit contender?
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Post#887 » by kg01 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:38 pm

thr3ep01nte4 wrote:I wonder has Duke produced a player who was/is the best player on a legit contender?


Does Kyrie count? He wasn't there long enough for the Duke stank to set in. :lol:

@atlbbq is gonna rip me a new one with all my anti-Duke, anti-Wendell Carter talk.
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Post#888 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:40 pm

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This kid has the feel of a legit 2-way player. Something this team is lacking post-Millsap/Horford.

NBA draft steals like Kyle Kuzma (picked 27th in 2017) create motivation to identify the next one. And more scouts could be looking in the Mountain West, where Boise State's Chandler Hutchison continues to draw attention.

Many scouts are still processing this run that he's on, which has seen Hutchison average 24.4 points per game since Dec. 1, record a triple-double against Portland, go for 32 points in a win over UNLV and explode for 44 points in a victory against San Diego State.

Hutchison also has a 34-point game on his resume against Kuzma from last year's upset NIT tournament.

Along with his improved shooting, he continues to establish himself as one of the nation's better slashers. And at 6'7" with impressive agility and the athleticism to soar above the rim, his attacking ability has stood out under the scouting lens.

Difficult to stop when driving downhill, Hutchison also demonstrates advanced footwork off the dribble with stutter and Eurosteps to avoid and freeze defenders. He has terrific body control on the move when getting into his layups and finishes, which he can convert using either hand (60.9 percent FG around the basket).

Hutchison has also been notably more efficient working out of isolation this season. On tape, it appears some of his improvement can be traced (again) to his footwork. He's using it to create separation, both off his first step and his last step before rising into his shot.
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Post#889 » by thr3ep01nte4 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:40 pm

kg01 wrote:Does Kyrie count? He wasn't there long enough for the Duke stank to set in. :lol:

@atlbbq is gonna rip me a new one with all my anti-Duke, anti-Wendell Carter talk.

I’m not sure about Kyrie yet, though he has been great. Anyone apart from him?
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Post#890 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:45 pm

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In his last four games, Carter is averaging 18.5 points per game, 11.2 rebounds and 2.5 blocks per game. He’s changed games on the defensive end for Duke – most notably the win against Miami on Jan. 13.

Against Wake Forest, Carter led all scorers with 23 points. He also had 12 rebounds and 2 blocks, and was 1-for-2 in 3-pointers in 34 minutes.

His strength is scoring in the post, but he has shown that you can’t leave him open for a 3-pointer. Early in the season, teams would try to double-double team Bagley and leave Carter open.

Opposing defenses are now learning they can’t do that. Carter is 12-for-25 from behind the 3-point line this season.


I really like this kid. The fact he's learned to play with a guy like Bagley indicates he can likely play well alongside a guy like Collins.

Mikal Bridges and Wendell Carter seem like a nice haul from most drafts.
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Post#891 » by Spud2nique » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:52 pm

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Wendell Carter has a chance to be the steal of this draft +++

Duval needs to stay for a second year.


I'm with you on this...Wendell Carter is looking like he's gonna adjust to the NBA game super smoothly...I still have Doncic at #1 but if we somehow fell to around the 6th pick...I might go Carter and feel very very good about it.
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Post#892 » by kg01 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:53 pm

Why can we just dig up Jason Maxiell instead of wasting a pick on Carter?
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Post#893 » by Spud2nique » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:56 pm

kg01 wrote:Why can we just dig up Jason Maxiell instead of wasting a pick on Carter?



:lol: Oh comon kg...the kid has a legit game...please I urge you to watch him in a few full games before dismissing him...he looks pretty legit in my humble opinion...his game translates so well to the NBA and especially with our Hawks ball movement approach.
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Post#894 » by Jamaaliver » Wed Jan 24, 2018 7:59 pm

^He's (apparently) shooting like 48% from 3 this season.

That bodes well.

I don't know that I'd go as high as 6. But he could very easily sneak back into the top 10.

Spud, if you had to choose between Mikal Bridges and Wendall Carter...who would you go with?

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Post#895 » by kg01 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:05 pm

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kg01 wrote:Why can we just dig up Jason Maxiell instead of wasting a pick on Carter?



:lol: Oh comon kg...the kid has a legit game...please I urge you to watch him in a few full games before dismissing him...he looks pretty legit in my humble opinion...his game translates so well to the NBA and especially with our Hawks ball movement approach.


With all due respect, did you watch Jason Maxiell in college? Maxiell at Cincy would demolish Carter.

Carter would be a solid pick but would be a wholly disappointing type of player to come away with in this draft. I see a middle-class man's Ed Davis. Will hang around a long time but .... *yawn*

How many Duke busts do I have to point out before you give me the benefit of the doubt, btw?

Gotta get my shots in before @atlbbq logs in and goes off on me again. :)

ETA: In case I haven't offended you enough, I should also state my interest in Doncic has totally waned.
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Post#896 » by macd-gm » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:05 pm

I guess Grant Hill was never really on a legit contender.

I'm not buying into Bagley either. I'm wary of Duke players, wary of big men who's main attribute is 'athleticism', and ......

MOST IMPORTANTLY

I ain't wasting the #2 (or #1) pick on a guy named Marvin from the NC triangle. Let's take him off the board already!
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Post#897 » by jayu70 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:12 pm

macd-gm wrote:I guess Grant Hill was never really on a legit contender.

I'm not buying into Bagley either. I'm wary of Duke players, wary of big men who's main attribute is 'athleticism', and ......

MOST IMPORTANTLY

I ain't wasting the #2 (or #1) pick on a guy named Marvin from the NC triangle. Let's take him off the board already!
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Post#898 » by Spud2nique » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:50 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:^He's (apparently) shooting like 48% from 3 this season.

That bodes well.

I don't know that I'd go as high as 6. But he could very easily sneak back into the top 10.

Spud, if you had to choose between Mikal Bridges and Wendall Carter...who would you go with?

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Oh man....that's a tough one. Mikal Bridges is gonna be something special in my opinion. I'm not going to compare him to anyone but he reminds me of a modern day #33 on the Bulls...he's as solid as they come in terms of wings...he has the ideal size, strength and a great defender. He comes from a winning program. I'm gonna slap myself in the face for this but his resume is similar to Horford but different positions on the court. He checks a ton of boxes for me and makes me feel comfortable inside (haha ya) when I watch him play.


Wendell Carter has been compared to Alice I guess by many. There are a few things I like about him...his size, but not only size because he would be an Ed Davis lol...but he has the fundamentals and he is a very situationally bright guy on the court. When I was young i always wanted guys on our team that were fun to watch and high flyers like Harold Miner and Isaiah Rider (1995 Rider) but nowadays I just want to draft guys with size, ability and some brains. No offense to Ed Davis, but I have a strange feeling like Wendell Carter is a brighter guy. That's also why I'm not dismissing Bamba, I simply like guys that can use their brain out on the court.
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Post#899 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:06 pm

Sleeper Watch: Chandler Hutchison, Wing, Boise State

Hutchison is a great athlete, and is a major threat at the three point line, both as a shooter and in attacking closeouts. He’s averaging 19.9 points, 8.1 rebounds, and 3.2 assists per game this season at solid clips (47% FG, 38.2% 3P), and makes his presence felt on the defense end with good size and tenacity. Check out the variety of moves he used in a 44 point outing against San Diego State earlier in the month; with his smooth long strides, crafty handle, and ability to attack the rim, he’s shows some excellent creation ability in both the open court and in transition.


Hutchison is the clear offensive weapon for the 16-4 Broncos. His efficiency isn’t always great, but he’s also the player defenses are focusing on and double teaming on a nightly basis.

Hutchison’s defense and rebounding are both strong enough to predict Hutchison will earn a Swiss Army knife role player spot in the NBA.
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Post#900 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:21 pm

DeAndre Ayton headlines four-player haul for Atlanta Hawks in latest ESPN mock draft

Jonathan Givony of ESPN released a two-round mock draft on Thursday and Atlanta’s four-player haul is quite interesting. Headlining the proceedings is the presence of Arizona big man DeAndre Ayton, who lands with the Hawks at No. 2 overall with only Luka Doncic off the board.

...there are question marks about how well promising big man John Collins fits in alongside another center who doesn’t protect the rim at an elite rate.

Nevertheless, Ayton has elevated himself into the conversation as a top-two pick with his incredible, natural physical tools and high skill-level. His rebounding and scoring prowess could be very attractive here, even if Mohamed Bamba might actually be a better fit stylistically.


Later, the Hawks picked up USC guard De’Anthony Melton (using Minnesota’s pick) and Tulane swingman Melvin Frazier (using Houston’s pick) and both are interesting prospects. Lastly, the Hawks end up with European forward Rodions Kurucs at No. 32 overall and that fits with a widely held assumption that Atlanta will not be making all four picks with a focus on the 2018-2019 season.
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I love the Ayton grab.

And the Kurucs pick in the 2nd round.

I am less sold on the others.

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