Donavan Mithcell/Luke Kennnard

[vic]

Mitchell will go down as the easiest decision SVG didn't make. The kid had Piston written all over him. Thing is SVG doesn't know what a piston is and sadly the entire organization doesn't seem to know either. Even Dumars woulda drafted him...

This is what irks me. There's very little Piston ID or consistent strategy in our drafting.

I see teams succeeding by picking long players, or 2 way players, or defensive forwards... Things that are proving to be successful in today's game. We drafted SJ and SVG just goes for offensive skill. Competitive Strategy completely abandoned. No Piston ID.

[Drwho17]

The more I watch Kennard the better I think he can be, right now he is deferential, he tries to hard to play within the system for now. He's a good rebounder too, I don't think they've really done anything to highlight his offensive talents, he seems to like to drive into the lane quite often, but it's not a regular play they run for him like with Bradley. He just needs reps and he will be fine.

[vic]

So are we going to start, OMG we didn't draft, Kawai

OMG i we didn't draft Giannis

OMG we didn't draft every other player that was better than all our draft picks.

OMG we didn't draft Kyle Kuzma

We literally could do this all day, but for some reason we want to make it seem as if the answer was staring everybody straight in the face, and in reality it wasn't. As far as LK, his development and production has nothing to do with what DM is doing other than giving those fuel to continue complaining about something they can never change just like we can't redraft kawai, or giannis, etc.

I am actually beginning to enjoy the complaining, as you can feel the pain in some of these post.

Well the year we drafted Brandon Knight, Kawhi was my top SF pick and Isaiah Thomas was my top pg pick for the Pistons. I don't openly complain about those.

The reason I'm complaining about this one is because I'm tired of SVG talking about defense and effort and then drafting for offense. He talked himself out of drafting a long armed, low center of gravity, defensive minded, insanely athletic, highly skilled combo guard with high level pg experience, who didn't miss a shot at his Pistons workout and who fully expected to be a Piston.

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/1/18/16904516/donovan-mitchell-highlights-dunks-video-utah-jazz

[King Bugs]

So are we going to start, OMG we didn't draft, Kawai

OMG i we didn't draft Giannis

OMG we didn't draft every other player that was better than all our draft picks.

OMG we didn't draft Kyle Kuzma

We literally could do this all day, but for some reason we want to make it seem as if the answer was staring everybody straight in the face, and in reality it wasn't. As far as LK, his development and production has nothing to do with what DM is doing other than giving those fuel to continue complaining about something they can never change just like we can't redraft kawai, or giannis, etc.

I am actually beginning to enjoy the complaining, as you can feel the pain in some of these post.

Overdramatic strawman argument... None of those players were even on our radar.

Just an observation but, you seem incredibly intent on shutting this discussion down.

[Billl]

Mitchell will go down as the easiest decision SVG didn't make. The kid had Piston written all over him. Thing is SVG doesn't know what a piston is and sadly the entire organization doesn't seem to know either. Even Dumars woulda drafted him...

This is what irks me. There's very little Piston ID or consistent strategy in our drafting.

I see teams succeeding by picking long players, or 2 way players, or defensive forwards... Things that are proving to be successful in today's game. We drafted SJ and SVG just goes for offensive skill. Competitive Strategy completely abandoned. No Piston ID.

There is consistency.... you just may not agree with it. SVG is consistently drafting shooters. He's also been going after shooters in free agency. He's still trying to build around Dre as a major offensive and defensive force in the paint. He would probably have a much different drafting strategy if he had a stud perimeter scorer he was trying to build around.

[Blkbrd671]

So are we going to start, OMG we didn't draft, Kawai

OMG i we didn't draft Giannis

OMG we didn't draft every other player that was better than all our draft picks.

OMG we didn't draft Kyle Kuzma

We literally could do this all day, but for some reason we want to make it seem as if the answer was staring everybody straight in the face, and in reality it wasn't. As far as LK, his development and production has nothing to do with what DM is doing other than giving those fuel to continue complaining about something they can never change just like we can't redraft kawai, or giannis, etc.

I am actually beginning to enjoy the complaining, as you can feel the pain in some of these post.

Well the year we drafted Brandon Knight, Kawhi was my top SF pick and Isaiah Thomas was my top pg pick for the Pistons. I don't openly complain about those.

The reason I'm complaining about this one is because I'm tired of SVG talking about defense and effort and then drafting for offense. He talked himself out of drafting a long armed, low center of gravity, defensive minded, insanely athletic, highly skilled combo guard with high level pg experience, who didn't miss a shot at his Pistons workout and who fully expected to be a Piston.

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/1/18/16904516/donovan-mitchell-highlights-dunks-video-utah-jazz

I can get that, SVG is one of my favorite basketball minds but execution wise, he's a bumbling idiot.

[Blkbrd671]

So are we going to start, OMG we didn't draft, Kawai

OMG i we didn't draft Giannis

OMG we didn't draft every other player that was better than all our draft picks.

OMG we didn't draft Kyle Kuzma

We literally could do this all day, but for some reason we want to make it seem as if the answer was staring everybody straight in the face, and in reality it wasn't. As far as LK, his development and production has nothing to do with what DM is doing other than giving those fuel to continue complaining about something they can never change just like we can't redraft kawai, or giannis, etc.

I am actually beginning to enjoy the complaining, as you can feel the pain in some of these post.

Overdramatic strawman argument... None of those players were even on our radar.

Just an observation but, you seem incredibly intent on shutting this discussion down.

actually i've literally said several times to circle jerk on.

[Blkbrd671]

i truly believe in the end, we are going to be comparing two really good players by the end of their rookie contract.

[Manocad]

This has gone farther than a Darko “should have” thread. Let it go.


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[buzzkilloton]

Read on Twitter

I love Luke. Hes fine esp for a rookie but man what could of been.

[Moses ShamMoses]

I'm going to the Utah game on Wednesday. This is probably the game i've most looked forward to in a long time. I'm interested to see if SVG can stop Donovan Mitchell or will Mitchell make the Pistons look silly for not drafting him.

[vic]

Watch on YouTube

[DETermination]

But I thought Rodney Stuckey was the next D Wade

[Timmaytime]

But I thought Rodney Stuckey was the next D Wade

Jury's still out !

[vic]

But I thought Rodney Stuckey was the next D Wade

Not with short arms and no hops he wasn't.

[DETermination]

Both Mitchell and Luke struggled tonight. Mitchell finished with 15 points on 6-21 shooting 5 assists and 4 rebounds in 43 minutes. Luke with 10 points on 3-9 shooting 10 rebounds and 4 assists in 26 minutes.

[The_Irony]

This has gone farther than a Darko “should have” thread. Let it go.


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No ones letting anything go until that incompetent SOB SVG is fired

[A_dub06]

This has gone farther than a Darko “should have” thread. Let it go.


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No ones letting anything go until that incompetent SOB SVG is fired

While I agree, did you just quote a 2 month old post? Hahaha


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[hoophabit]

Never quoted myself before, but this is just as apropo as it was on 12/31/17.

[The_Irony]

This has gone farther than a Darko “should have” thread. Let it go.


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No ones letting anything go until that incompetent SOB SVG is fired

While I agree, did you just quote a 2 month old post? Hahaha


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Havent been here in about that time..i was looking and my "and 1s" while i was away.