Winter is Here: Welcome Dario Saric

ziggy77 · Post #821 » by **ziggy77** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 11:41 am

cksdayoff wrote:
westpaulcombo wrote:As a guy who is Croatian and therefore watched Dario in many European knockout games I saw how vulnerable he is when opposing teams concentrate their attack against him , so i can allow myself to say he is weak link and best longterm solution for Sixers is to trade him. Trade him for good two way player with less offensive production.

the thing that has impressed me the most is his hustle. if his offensive production was up, especially shooting 3s, then maybe his defensive liability could be masked a little. he's better suited to the 2nd unit.

That can be good thing but thing is (if you want to utilize him to the max), when he becomes the bench guy/6th man then he also needs to be high usage guy when he is playing with the second unit. He needs to be truly a 6th man, Ginobili like, and the second unit must be molded for him so he can lead them. Then when he plays with the starting unit he will go back to his stretch duties and Kevin Love type.

Kobblehead · Post #822 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:12 pm

Dario's offensive improvements have been notable. The next hurdle he needs to overcome offensively is his ball security. He still turns it over more than ideal.

The longterm goal is for him to become acceptable defensively. Which I still can't quite see on the horizon. He has a long way to go on that end.

ziggy77 · Post #823 » by **ziggy77** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 6:22 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Dario's offensive improvements have been notable. The next hurdle he needs to overcome offensively is his ball security. He still turns it over more than ideal.

The longterm goal is for him to become acceptable defensively. Which I still can't quite see on the horizon. He has a long way to go on that end.

I think that the thing is, he still has that point guard insticts in him that were created when he was younger and smaller. When he started his pro career (17-18y old) he kind of stopped being the primary ball handler and probbably stopped working on his ball control and handles.

So he gets carried away because of those insticts, with risky passes and dribling trough 2-3 defenders.

Personaly i think it's a shame that he stopped working on his handles. Even though that enabled him to foucs on other things that are needed for modern PF.

Lou_23 · Post #824 » by **Lou_23** » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:05 pm

Last 5 games

18 p
7.4 r
5.4 a
50% f/g
44% f/3

FreesFro · Post #825 » by **FreesFro** » Mon Jan 1, 2018 2:35 pm

A great December for Dario after a slow start in November. He's just a hard worker. His shot had improved so much. He's a heady player. Still getting better. Can't complain.

November
11ppg
6rpg
2apg
41% FG
35% 3Pt
80% FT

December
17ppg
8rpg
4apg
48% FG
39% 3Pt
91% FT

bobbeaver · Post #826 » by **bobbeaver** » Thu Jan 4, 2018 4:23 pm

Im impressed with his shooting lately. Very consistent 3 pt shot. He shoots it much more fluidly with a nice arch now. No hesitation or thought. Just lets it fly. He s starting to shoot em out of screens aswell. You can see he is feeling it. So nice to see and such a big difference from start of the season, let alone last year. I hope with this hot streak he solidifies this shooting mechanics.

Ericb5 · Post #827 » by **Ericb5** » Thu Jan 4, 2018 6:58 pm

bobbeaver wrote:Im impressed with his shooting lately. Very consistent 3 pt shot. He shoots it much more fluidly with a nice arch now. No hesitation or thought. Just lets it fly. He s starting to shoot em out of screens aswell. You can see he is feeling it. So nice to see and such a big difference from start of the season, let alone last year. I hope with this hot streak he solidifies this shooting mechanics.

Agreed.

He knows what he can do, and he rarely throws up a pure brick. His shots just LOOK good off of his hands.

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Post #828 » by **Sixerscan** » Thu Jan 4, 2018 7:01 pm

Him starting slow might just be a thing we have to account for. Getting used to the NBA ball/3 point line after playing in Europe all summer or something. IDK could be made up.

eagereyez · Post #829 » by **eagereyez** » Thu Jan 4, 2018 9:22 pm

FreesFro wrote:A great December for Dario after a slow start in November. He's just a hard worker. His shot had improved so much. He's a heady player. Still getting better. Can't complain.

November
11ppg
6rpg
2apg
41% FG
35% 3Pt
80% FT

December
17ppg
8rpg
4apg
48% FG
39% 3Pt
91% FT

If he can keep up those assists and 3 pt shooting then I might change my opinion of him. His defense will probably always be a negative, but he can overcome it if he becomes an huge plus offensively.

bobbeaver · Post #830 » by **bobbeaver** » Fri Jan 5, 2018 6:05 am

Sixerscan wrote:Him starting slow might just be a thing we have to account for. Getting used to the NBA ball/3 point line after playing in Europe all summer or something. IDK could be made up.

I dont think thats it. His 3 pt shot has improved since he came into the league. His 3pt pct at start of the season was better than last years 3pt pct. Same as his shot arch has improved and pct gotten better through out the year last year.
He is only a sophmore so his game will develop as the year continues. Everyone was impressed last year of his shot development and change with in the nba season. That is rare. One usually does it in the preseason. Same as his overall game improves as the season progresses.
Im guessing this is his MO.

Post #831 » by **Sixerscan** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:06 am

FreesFro wrote:A great December for Dario after a slow start in November. He's just a hard worker. His shot had improved so much. He's a heady player. Still getting better. Can't complain.

November
11ppg
6rpg
2apg
41% FG
35% 3Pt
80% FT

December
17ppg
8rpg
4apg
48% FG
39% 3Pt
91% FT

With a week left in January

15.4 PPG
7 RPG
2.6 APG
45% FG
43% 3Pt
98.6% FT (Two months in a row over 90%

)

Team has been +12.7 with him on the court this month, not counting tonight when he was a game high +31

Post #832 » by **Sixerscan** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:11 am

Oh and he is *almost* at a neutral RPM as of the last time they updated (remember when that first came out about a month into the season he was like the worst in the league) and if he keeps playing like this it wouldn't shock me if he was a top 20 PF by the end of the year.

JojoSlimbiid · Post #833 » by **JojoSlimbiid** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:19 am

Sixerscan wrote:Oh and he is *almost* at a neutral RPM as of the last time they updated (remember when that first came out about a month into the season he was like the worst in the league) and if he keeps playing like this it wouldn't shock me if he was a top 20 PF by the end of the year.

All of that stuff and the stats are cool and all....but do you see how high he jumps? Better yet how high he doesn't jump? Should trade him 8-)

Ericb5 · Post #834 » by **Ericb5** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:52 am

Sixerscan wrote:
FreesFro wrote:A great December for Dario after a slow start in November. He's just a hard worker. His shot had improved so much. He's a heady player. Still getting better. Can't complain.

November
11ppg
6rpg
2apg
41% FG
35% 3Pt
80% FT

December
17ppg
8rpg
4apg
48% FG
39% 3Pt
91% FT

With a week left in January

15.4 PPG
7 RPG
2.6 APG
45% FG
43% 3Pt
98.6% FT (Two months in a row over 90% )

Team has been +12.7 with him on the court this month, not counting tonight when he was a game high +31

His shooting improvements are real. His shot, and his free throw both look good off his hand every time.

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Kirk Van Houten · Post #835 » by **Kirk Van Houten** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:11 am

Ericb5 wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
FreesFro wrote:A great December for Dario after a slow start in November. He's just a hard worker. His shot had improved so much. He's a heady player. Still getting better. Can't complain.

November
11ppg
6rpg
2apg
41% FG
35% 3Pt
80% FT

December
17ppg
8rpg
4apg
48% FG
39% 3Pt
91% FT

With a week left in January

15.4 PPG
7 RPG
2.6 APG
45% FG
43% 3Pt
98.6% FT (Two months in a row over 90% )

Team has been +12.7 with him on the court this month, not counting tonight when he was a game high +31

His shooting improvements are real. His shot, and his free throw both look good off his hand every time.

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This is Dario’s team now.

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Post #836 » by **CoreyGallagher** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:32 am

Has missed only one free throw since Christmas. He’s 38-39.

kriss73 · Post #837 » by **kriss73** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:09 am

So maybe the young Dario was/is developing his NBA game after all.....stunning.

76ciology · Post #838 » by **76ciology** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:40 am

CoreyGallagher wrote:Has missed only one free throw since Christmas. He’s 38-39.

Maybe he asked santa for better free throw shooting as his Christmas gift. You don't know whats going on with his mind just by watching his interviews

Spalato · Post #839 » by **Spalato** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:27 am

Dario is just doing what Dario does - he listens to criticism and works to get better. He's been doing that every level and he always gets the last laugh. His drive and tenacity is elite.

Kolkmania · Post #840 » by **Kolkmania** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:25 am

IIRC Dario shot >90% from the FT line in a season for Efes as well. He has the potential to be a good standstill shooter, just have to maintain that arc.

Dario's drives to the rim has been huge for us this season. It doesn't look good, but he bulldozes his way to the paint so effectively.