2018 Brewers Discussion - Yelich Signing on Page 45

[bizarro]

I love "y'all". It's the only vernacular I've picked up, I promise y'all that

That's awesome. I live south of Nashville and in North Georgia for several years. I still use 'y'all' but it's still awkward to me. Like, I can feel my Yankee roots cringing in disbelief. Never quite fits right. But, it comes out anyway...sometimes.

My cousins moved to Nashville when they were 12 and 10 and I didn't see them for a few years and then they came up and visited and they were constantly saying y'all and still do to this day. We were laughing and said they went Southern pretty quickly.

Of course I also had cousins from Oregon and the first time we ever saw them in person they commented how funny we sounded.

And oh man when I first met my cousins from New Jersey? The dueling accents were amazing.

One of my favorite documentaries I've ever seen is the late 80's ethnographic documentary 'American Tongues'. It changed my worldview within the US. It never ceases to amaze me how large this country is and how nuanced every nook and cranny is. I swear, I've driven down meandering roads deep in the Blue Ridge mountains and the Ozarks where I couldn't tell you a word the purported English speakers were saying. I think this gets lost in the modern discourse.

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[Kerb Hohl]

Yelich though wouldn't have to be an acquisition just to make a run this year. He's only 25, has five years left on his contract, and at team friendly rates, that is a big reason why he's in such demand.

If instead, let's say Yelich only had a year or two left on his contract, teams would still want him, but the demand and cost for him in return would be less.

But this is like Bucks debates of past. Even if for 5 years (which means we're giving up more prospects to get him), where do you go next? I know they'll still have some good players in the farm system, but you're going to have to make more crafty moves to win in subsequent years. You can't bank on some prospects coming up to take the next step (so you probably keep shoveling more prospects into trades). You can maybe bank on improvement, but you also have to factor in guys like Nelson, Anderson, Shaw, Knebel maybe regressing and/or running out of team control near the end of Yelich's tenure.

If by all means you think Yelich (and a few other moves this year) is the missing piece to be a favorite for the division and World Series, go ahead. But you're paying extra pieces from 2020 or 2021 so that you can hang a 2nd place banner in 2018.

I dont know if I entirely agree with this. When talking about Brinson and say Ortiz or somebody else your have basically one more year of control of the prospect than you do of Yelich whos been a 4 WAR player already. I generally am a dont jump the gun guy and hold onto prospects but this Yelich situation is a tad different for me. If the cost is Brinson and say Ortiz or something like that I think you have to think long and hard to acquire a guy like that. We can all dream on prospect potential but the real likelihood of those guys in our top 30 making 4 WAR is probably 5% of that top 30.
I completely get the regression sentiment and if you remember correctly I was a staunch arguer during the season and especially at deadline about not making moves because they were going to regress. I completely agree that this team as constructed even with Yelich isnt a contender. I just cant ever discount acquiring the best possible players using all mean necessary.
That said. If the cost ends up being Brinson plus two more in our top 5 then I dont know if the time is right to be making that kind of move.

Sure, I think a lot of us said Brinson (and maybe a tad more) for Yelich is fine.

I don't think it's gonna be just that.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I completely agree that this team as constructed even with Yelich isnt a contender. I just cant ever discount acquiring the best possible players using all mean necessary.

I think this is a good point. I understand the theory of waiting until you have a championship roster to make moves but I don't always think that's as easy as it sounds in reality. Sometimes you need to take advantage of an opportunity that's right in front of you now that might not be there when you deem it the perfect time to make a move. And sometimes you need to make incremental moves that while they don't put you over the top now they advance that ultimate goal and then when the time does hit to get super aggressive some of that ground work is already done.

Shoot with Yelich if he didn't want to be traded I wouldn't fault the Marlins for keeping him even though they are just starting the rebuild. He's young enough with enough years of control even a team like that can justify building around him.

Now I'm not head over heals for Yelich specifically because I think he should play LF and they have the whole Ryan Braun boat anchor blocking that. But hey if they got creative and say moved Braun to 1st then I like it even better.

[Turk Nowitzki]

SOUND THE ALARM

OH GOD

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[Turk Nowitzki]

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[ReasonablySober]

Well strap in folks.

[Turk Nowitzki]

*heart rate spiking*

If that's the worst of it I think I will be ok, we'll see though.

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[dbrodz7]

I'm really nervous about this. I hope Darvish hasn't made a decision yet because he wanted confirmation that Stearns was going to make other moves such as this one.

[Ryan5UW]

Brinson and Diaz?

[BUCKnation]

If that's the package I'm good with the trade.

[Turk Nowitzki]

This seems like a strange thing to tweet out right now, makes me think we might actually be serious about Cain.

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[blazza18]

Official

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[dbrodz7]

Agreed, I think that's a pretty good risk for us to take. When I first read it I thought it said Brinson and Ortiz and I almost had a heart attack.

[Turk Nowitzki]

**** my life, I don't like that.

[WeekapaugGroove]

It's going to be a real interesting next week because I would assume this sets off a bit of a domino effect. I'm really curious what position they say he will play.

If the deal is headlined by Brinson and Diaz and the other pieces are more B level prospects then seems like decent value to me.

Edit - I see Harrison is also in that deal.... man that's kind of rough.

[FNQ]

Congratulations, good pickup. Hard to trade Brinson but Yelich is one of those guys with no weakness to his game, plays well in every park, and you wont have to wait on him to return value. Think the Brewers now start shopping Broxton (SF?) and really pursue Yu Darvish. Full steam ahead. Good job to your GM

[trwi7]

Stupid. **** off Stearns.

[Turk Nowitzki]

I guess the silver lining if you're looking for one is that they held onto all their top pitching prospects. I don't know a ton about Yamamoto, I know people liked him too though.

[Ryan5UW]

**** my life, I don't like that.

Yeah, this...

[ReasonablySober]

Stunned by how much they gave up.