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Re: 2018 Brewers Discussion - Brewers Acquire Yelich for Brinson, Harrison, Diaz, etc. 

Post#941 » by Gianstoppable » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:12 am

Bernman wrote:I have so many questions about this.

How do you not get a proven star for that kind of package? That's a haul for the Marlins.

If they valued Brinson so much to turn down 3 extra prospects from Texas, why trade him a year later in a 4 prospects for 1 player package a year later?

Why concede Diaz specifically when he's a middle infielder and they may need help there going forward and he was a bright prospect?

The big need for this team is a starting pitcher/ace. Should have been able to snare that. Instead they go outfielder, which they had a surplus of, and traded someone with as high of upside or higher away. Sure they didn't mean Broxton?

The guy needed to be majorly held back by that ballpark (didn't stop Stanton) and a perennial all-star to justify this. FWIW, he was significantly better on the road than home. He had an .852 OPS and .938 OPS on the road the last two seasons. It's one season's worth over 2 of high .800. I guess that's what they're looking at. It's a leap of faith.

I realize Stearns has been pretty money so far, but every decision should be evaluated individually. This one is curious, and confirms concern about the Lucroy/Jeffress return at the time.

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Re: 2018 Brewers Discussion - Brewers Acquire Yelich for Brinson, Harrison, Diaz, etc. 

Post#942 » by trwi7 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:13 am

If Brinson reaches his offensive ceiling he's miles better than Yelich. Like not even **** close. He might even be close to Yelich even if he hits .250/.330/.450 just based on defense and positional value alone.

**** this deal. **** Stearns. I think I'm done with the Brewers for a while. Please win the Cup this year Preds. That will get me through early to mid June. Pool at my apartment is open until Labor Day and that will take care of almost the whole season.
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Re: 2018 Brewers Discussion - Brewers Acquire Yelich for Brinson, Harrison, Diaz, etc. 

Post#943 » by Iheartfootball » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:13 am

So many prospects. If he doesn't instantly become the best player on the team than I'mma do stuff.
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Re: 2018 Brewers Discussion - Brewers Acquire Yelich for Brinson, Harrison, Diaz, etc. 

Post#944 » by Turk Nowitzki » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:13 am

I have to hope Brinson really **** sucks now for my own sanity. I don't like that. Like, if Brinson and Yelich put up similar numbers this year I'm going to lose it.
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Post#945 » by LUKE23 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:13 am

**** terrible trade. Wow.

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Post#946 » by trwi7 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:13 am

Dubon sucks. Stop **** talking about him like he's something.
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Re: 2018 Brewers Discussion - Brewers Acquire Yelich for Brinson, Harrison, Diaz, etc. 

Post#947 » by Gianstoppable » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:15 am

Iheartfootball wrote:I really liked Stearns. Ugh. I don't like this.

I really hope this wasn't Attanasio meddling. If it is then this will just end up a repeat of the first go round with Braun, Fielder, Weeks, Hardy, etc. 1st round playoffs. Exit stage left.

*edit* What happened to staying the course? Come on guys. Ugh. I hope I'm wrong. I really do.


Yelich is under control for 5 years and he's cheap. Not sure how this will be a repeat of that team? Those prospects all had some big flaws as well as some high potential. I think it's a solid deal, not great, not bad. Time will tell. Also, makes more sense if we trade Domingo and sign Lo Cain now, can still add a pitcher if we wanted to and we still have all our top pitching prospects
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Post#948 » by LUKE23 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:17 am

You could argue we traded 3 of our top 4 bats for the minors. Unreal. Yelich better be unreal for us. Last year production isn't good enough.

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Re: 2018 Brewers Discussion - Brewers Acquire Yelich for Brinson, Harrison, Diaz, etc. 

Post#949 » by Gianstoppable » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:17 am

trwi7 wrote:If Brinson reaches his offensive ceiling he's miles better than Yelich. Like not even **** close. He might even be close to Yelich even if he hits .250/.330/.450 just based on defense and positional value alone.

**** this deal. **** Stearns. I think I'm done with the Brewers for a while. Please win the Cup this year Preds. That will get me through early to mid June. Pool at my apartment is open until Labor Day and that will take care of almost the whole season.


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Re: 2018 Brewers Discussion - Brewers Acquire Yelich for Brinson, Harrison, Diaz, etc. 

Post#950 » by Bernman » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:17 am

trwi7 wrote:If Brinson reaches his offensive ceiling he's miles better than Yelich. Like not even **** close. He might even be close to Yelich even if he hits .250/.330/.450 just based on defense and positional value alone.

**** this deal. **** Stearns. I think I'm done with the Brewers for a while. Please win the Cup this year Preds. That will get me through early to mid June. Pool at my apartment is open until Labor Day and that will take care of almost the whole season.


You got the U.S. in the World Cup this year. They aren't going to win it but could make a nice run!
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Post#951 » by Turk Nowitzki » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:22 am

Also, I can't be the only one who has barely ever seen Yelich play? I didn't make it a habit to take on a lot of Marlins games.
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Post#952 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:24 am

trwi7 wrote:If Brinson reaches his offensive ceiling he's miles better than Yelich. Like not even **** close. He might even be close to Yelich even if he hits .250/.330/.450 just based on defense and positional value alone.

**** this deal. **** Stearns. I think I'm done with the Brewers for a while. Please win the Cup this year Preds. That will get me through early to mid June. Pool at my apartment is open until Labor Day and that will take care of almost the whole season.


Well they've finally done and killed trwi7


trwi7 wrote:Dubon sucks. Stop **** talking about him like he's something.


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Post#953 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:25 am

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Re: 2018 Brewers Discussion - Brewers Acquire Yelich for Brinson, Harrison, Diaz, etc. 

Post#954 » by Iheartfootball » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:25 am

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Iheartfootball wrote:I really liked Stearns. Ugh. I don't like this.

I really hope this wasn't Attanasio meddling. If it is then this will just end up a repeat of the first go round with Braun, Fielder, Weeks, Hardy, etc. 1st round playoffs. Exit stage left.

*edit* What happened to staying the course? Come on guys. Ugh. I hope I'm wrong. I really do.


Yelich is under control for 5 years and he's cheap. Not sure how this will be a repeat of that team? Those prospects all had some big flaws as well as some high potential. I think it's a solid deal, not great, not bad. Time will tell. Also, makes more sense if we trade Domingo and sign Lo Cain now, can still add a pitcher if we wanted to and we still have all our top pitching prospects


Yeah, I guess I should say repeat in the sense that when those guys were up and the cupboards were bare they started signing contracts that just barely pushed them over the edge of mediocrity and kept them there.

The bold portion is what's key for me in putting away my jump to conclusions board. I'll wait to see how the rest of this shakes out. This isn't the only move. I've calmed. A bit.
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Post#955 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:25 am

Now we find out where Domingo is going.
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Post#956 » by trwi7 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:26 am

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Au revoir Santana's trade value.
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Post#957 » by DingleJerry » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:26 am

As someone worried about this trade and subsequent domino effect, so far I'm ok with it. I accept this as ok due to not giving up any top P prospects. Diaz likely means they're extremely confident in the #1 pick last year playing 2B in a couple years. It seems his bat is almost can't miss level, as close as there is to such a thing anyway. Giving up both OF yea isn't ideal, but they're just stocked in OF prospects and if they do sign Cain like is still being reported then all 3 OF spots are set for at least 3 years. Giving plenty of time to replenish the farm there.

The subsequent moves obviously still affect overall judgment. But so far I'm ok since I went into it expecting a bit worse. And as I've said I'm skeptical on Brinson, another injury plagued year or 200 ABs like last year and his value tanks.
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Post#958 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:27 am

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Au revoir Santana's trade value.


Yea man sorta like how Yelich's trade value tanked once he let everyone know he wanted out.
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Post#959 » by wichmae » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:27 am

LUKE23 wrote:You could argue we traded 3 of our top 4 bats for the minors. Unreal. Yelich better be unreal for us. Last year production isn't good enough.

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Not really. Diaz had a massive regression and while everyone dreams on Monte (myself included) were talking about a guy who before AFL was basically considered still a project. He's lost almost two whole development seasons with injury issues and to me the toughest part of the trade to swallow. Brinson will be a really good defender but at this point is starting to become really concerning about the swing holes. I would personally not have either Diaz in our top 4 bats. Harrison maybe off of his AFL.
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Post#960 » by ak7 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:28 am

trwi7 wrote:If Brinson reaches his offensive ceiling he's miles better than Yelich. Like not even **** close. He might even be close to Yelich even if he hits .250/.330/.450 just based on defense and positional value alone.

**** this deal. **** Stearns. I think I'm done with the Brewers for a while. Please win the Cup this year Preds. That will get me through early to mid June. Pool at my apartment is open until Labor Day and that will take care of almost the whole season.


Lmao can't help you if you think Brinson would be better than Yelich. Just means you are clueless. Stick to MLB The Show.

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