Taurean Prince

Spud2nique · Post #121 » by **Spud2nique** » Tue Jan 9, 2018 7:14 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
Spud2nique wrote:Prince is our best player. In my humble opinion.

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Post #122 » by **Jamaaliver** » Tue Jan 9, 2018 7:38 pm

I will say Prince's learning curve was definitely lessened due to his age and college from 4 years of college. He managed to garner a starting spot in less than a year and appears to be a building block due to his size, maturity, shooting, defense, and positional versatility.

Best aspect for me regarding TP2000, he meshes well with practically any draftee we might pursue this summer.

Ayton
Luka
Trae
Michael Porter II

Any and all would pair well with this kid.

The only drawback, he's about to be 24 years old and may not fall in our timeline. (Especially with all the 19 year old kids waiting to be drafted by us.)

macd-gm · Post #123 » by **macd-gm** » Tue Jan 9, 2018 8:59 pm

If a 24 year old isn't in our timeline then i need a new team.

kane0801 · Post #124 » by **kane0801** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:33 am

he seems wildly inconsistent

graymule · Post #125 » by **graymule** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:35 am

kane0801 wrote:he seems wildly inconsistent

WORST GAME OF HIS CAREER, AT LEAST AS FAR AS SCORING. ONE POINT!

:oops:

King Ken · Post #126 » by **King Ken** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:46 am

Jamaaliver wrote:I will say Prince's learning curve was definitely lessened due to his age and college from 4 years of college. He managed to garner a starting spot in less than a year and appears to be a building block due to his size, maturity, shooting, defense, and positional versatility.

Best aspect for me regarding TP2000, he meshes well with practically any draftee we might pursue this summer.

Ayton
Luka
Trae
Michael Porter II

Any and all would pair well with this kid.

The only drawback, he's about to be 24 years old and may not fall in our timeline. (Especially with all the 19 year old kids waiting to be drafted by us.)

I would add Bagley and Bamba and completely drop the idea of Young.

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Spud2nique · Post #127 » by **Spud2nique** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:42 pm

Off game for Prince, I think he bounces back on MLK day vs the Spurs...although I think he draws Kawhi (if Kawhi plays) in another tough matchup...it was fun to watch DMC and Prince go at it.

jayu70 · Post #128 » by **jayu70** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:34 pm

Prince was on the court but didn't play, can't remember one impactful moment.

Post #129 » by **ATL Boy** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:40 pm

Growing pains for the second year player, Prince is allowed an off game here and there.

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Spud2nique · Post #130 » by **Spud2nique** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:27 pm

Can you imagine Prince's impact for us next year when we surround him with some talent....more talent. Wonder if teams are calling us about including him in a trade.

Spud2nique · Post #131 » by **Spud2nique** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:30 pm

jayu70 wrote:Prince was on the court but didn't play, can't remember one impactful moment.

I have him on my fantasy team and wow...he struggled but it's been about the only game where's he's contributed very little.

Bounce back against the Spurs hopefully.

Post #132 » by **Jamaaliver** » Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:24 pm

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jayu70 · Post #133 » by **jayu70** » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:17 pm

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Post #134 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:08 pm

Yikes, these cats change their minds on the turn of a dime:

Michael Cunningham wrote:Taurean Prince still searching for consistency in Year 2

Over 48 hours you saw a microcosm of Taurean Prince’s second season with the Hawks.

In the victory over the Jazz, Prince shook off a foul-plagued first half and ignited a third-quarter surge that buried the visitors. Prince was aggressive offensively while making good decisions and chased the Jazz’s ball-handlers, cutters and shooters all over the court.

But, two nights later, Prince turned in a dud in a loss to the Raptors: two points on three shots, zero assists, one steal and three turnovers in 13 minutes.

Prince could play better at Charlotte Friday because he often follows bad games with good ones. But Prince, 23, still is looking for consistency in his second season. Prince had been dealing with a hand injury but said that wasn’t a factor in his offensive slump.

Prince has played just 2,405 minutes but already has established himself as a legitimate NBA player. It’s not uncommon for young players to be inconsistent. But there’s room for improvement in the big picture, too.

Prince has significantly improved his offensive efficiency, in large part because he’s taking 3-pointers more frequently and making them at 39.6 percent clip. Prince also is producing much better as a passer.

Yet Prince’s passiveness and poor decision-making shows up in other numbers.

Prince’s efficiency as a pick-and-roll ball-handler rates poorly, according to Synergy Sports Technology tracking data. He’s been good when using screens to get to the basket, where his strength and long wingspan are assets, but inefficient when settling for jumpers off the dribble.

Overall, Prince is a better offensive player. But those improvements have been offset by Prince’s decline in defensive impact.

myAJC

macd-gm · Post #135 » by **macd-gm** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:19 pm

Where's the evidence of his decline in defensive impact?

Post #136 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:37 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Yikes, these cats change their minds on the turn of a dime:

Michael Cunningham wrote:Taurean Prince still searching for consistency in Year 2

Overall, Prince is a better offensive player. But those improvements have been offset by Prince’s decline in defensive impact.
myAJC

macd-gm wrote:Where's the evidence of his decline in defensive impact?

Michael Cunningham wrote:
Then came the benching against the Raptors, which followed a passive defensive stretch for Prince. It included failing to challenge Serge Ibaka on a drive for a dunk and going under a screen before making a halfhearted challenge on OG Anunoby’s 3-pointer.

Among small forwards who’ve played at least 30 games and averaged 20 minutes, Prince ranks 23rd in ESPN’s Defensive Real Plus-Minus, which attempts to adjust for quality of teammates and opponents.

Prince ranked fourth among small forwards in that metric as a rookie.

Prince also has seen a big dip in production on blocks, steals, deflections and shots challenged. His Defensive Box Plus-Minus has plummeted.

Spud2nique · Post #137 » by **Spud2nique** » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:57 pm

macd-gm wrote:Where's the evidence of his decline in defensive impact?

I know right!! The advanced stats probably show that K Love is a better defender than Prince...

LAUGHABLE!

macd-gm · Post #138 » by **macd-gm** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:35 pm

I wonder if any individual player who is on a bottom 5 team has good defensive stats.

Post #139 » by **Jamaaliver** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:09 pm

Fake news, huh...

NOTE: Former Hawks Thabo Sefolosha and DeMarre Carroll are both top 10 in Defensive RPM. On losing teams.

macd-gm · Post #140 » by **macd-gm** » Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:19 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Fake news, huh...

NOTE: Former Hawks Thabo Sefolosha and DeMarre Carroll are both top 10 in Defensive RPM. On losing teams.

Demarre is a good one but i didn't say losing teams. I'm talking bottom of the NBA barrel. Utah isn't a bad team. I'd nitpick and say the Nets are a cut above Hawks/Magic/Kings/Mavs because they are actually trying to win. But still that's impressive by Demarre with as bad as the Nets actually are.

But when you look at Prince's defensive stats change from last year to this year, how much of that is player and how much is team?