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[sunsbg]

His game seems to be developing right now and very quickly. To me these players are beginning to look like this in game style.

Ayton: David Robinson
Bamba: Dikembe Mutombo
Bagley: Tim Duncan
JJackson: Chris Bosh


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David Robinson was probably my favorite non-Suns player at the time and I don't like this comparison very much. The Admiral was much more agile, he could take people off the dribble like a guard, which I don't see in Ayton. Also he was a pretty good defender and Ayton doesn't project as such. I think he ends more a Patrick Ewing game-wise than a David Robinson.

Yeah, these comparisons are off. Bamba being like Mutombo might be pretty close, but otherwise...

I don't know if my historical knowledge goes back for enough for me to draw an appropriate comparison to Ayton. Thick big with elite athleticism, solid post and spot up game, bad defensive instincts and mediocre motor. Honestly, no one really comes to mind.

I've been comparing Bagley to Amare before it was cool (the stepien pod consistently makes this comparison, I've found), and I think that's close. Amare with more motor and less power.

Jaren Jackson is also tough. He's bigger than Bosh. Crazy defensive instincts, a developed outside shot, can face up.

I like all of Jackson, Bagley, Bamba and Mitchell Robinson (for where he's likely to be drafted). Less excited about Ayton.

Really wishing we still had that LAL pick so we could all dream about taking one from that group and also Trae Young.

Bamba actually has a pretty good offensive potential - 3-3 3PFG% and 16-17 FT% in the last two games, defensively he indeed reminds of Mutombo.

Bagley to Amare comparison looks good to me too. I have seen Jackson compared to Myles Turner, which is also reasonable.

As for the LA pick, it just looks unforgivable right now.

[darealjuice]

I get more of a Toronto Chris Bosh feel from Marvin Bagley, but that might be because they're both lefties. I think his game is more coordinated/strong finesse and less the explosive/power that young Amar'e brought. He's got a decent looking shooting form too, I don't see why he could develop a 3-point shot like Bosh did. I also read that David Robinson compared Bagley to Tim Duncan earlier this year.

The cheap comparison for Bamba is probably Rudy Gobert. Beast on the boards, very good rim protector, limited offensive game outside of dump-offs and lobs. From what I've seen I think he could be a bit better defending on the perimeter than Gobert is though, and he seems to like his 3-point shot despite shooting poorly thus far (albeit low volume). Not sure how much he'll develop his post game on offense though, according to Hoop-Math 86.5% of his made shots at the rim are assisted or on put-backs, which feels like a lot, and he isn't shooting particularly well from mid-range or 3.

[ATTL]

I don't know how to rank players in the top 7 (Young, Doncic, Bagley, Ayton, Porter, Jackson, Bamba?) but my very fluid board currently has this guy pretty solidly slotted at #8:

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My ideal draft rn is one of Young or Doncic plus this guy. With all these big men, it will be a shame if we're not able to solve the C spot through this year's draft.

Thats my ideal draft at the moment too. Robinson skipping college is probably best case scenario for us since we won't have two high picks

[Mulhollanddrive]

My main concern on Young was shown today when he couldn't draw fouls and went 2 of 12 from two, on the plus side his quick release 3 looked NBA ready.

Mo Bamba has got me salavating with 24-12-3 and 25-15-4 in his last 2 games.

[RunDogGun]

My main concern on Young was shown today when he couldn't draw fouls and went 2 of 12 from two, on the plus side his quick release 3 looked NBA ready.

Mo Bamba has got me salavating with 24-12-3 and 25-15-4 in his last 2 games.

I like him, but at 220 and 7’, he will have a tough time against centers in the NBA.

[kennydorglas]

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[bwgood77]

Damn I just bought tickets to the Texas/Oklahoma game next week but never got the email with the tickets. So I figured maybe it didn't go through but there is a pending charge on my credit card. Tickets are going fast too...and you can't call them until Monday. I kind of want to buy some more because I think this charge is a mistake but not sure.

[thamadkant]

David Robinson was probably my favorite non-Suns player at the time and I don't like this comparison very much. The Admiral was much more agile, he could take people off the dribble like a guard, which I don't see in Ayton. Also he was a pretty good defender and Ayton doesn't project as such. I think he ends more a Patrick Ewing game-wise than a David Robinson.

Yeah, these comparisons are off. Bamba being like Mutombo might be pretty close, but otherwise...

I don't know if my historical knowledge goes back for enough for me to draw an appropriate comparison to Ayton. Thick big with elite athleticism, solid post and spot up game, bad defensive instincts and mediocre motor. Honestly, no one really comes to mind.

I've been comparing Bagley to Amare before it was cool (the stepien pod consistently makes this comparison, I've found), and I think that's close. Amare with more motor and less power.

Jaren Jackson is also tough. He's bigger than Bosh. Crazy defensive instincts, a developed outside shot, can face up.

I like all of Jackson, Bagley, Bamba and Mitchell Robinson (for where he's likely to be drafted). Less excited about Ayton.

Really wishing we still had that LAL pick so we could all dream about taking one from that group and also Trae Young.

Bamba actually has a pretty good offensive potential - 3-3 3PFG% and 16-17 FT% in the last two games, defensively he indeed reminds of Mutombo.

Bagley to Amare comparison looks good to me too. I have seen Jackson compared to Myles Turner, which is also reasonable.

As for the LA pick, it just looks unforgivable right now.

Agreed with Ayton and Robinson, as Admiral was/is also my favorite player of all time (just ahead of Barkley and Majerle)

I see Robinson's body profile on Ayton.... explosiveness and jumping ability. But mobily and agility?... Robinson moved like a tall small forward and so so fluid.. Im sure everyone who've seen him play would agree he is a freak of nature.
Hakeem and Robinson are the 2 most freakish players I've seen in regards to their atheleticism, skill level and mobility...
Anthony Davis is probably closest to them in recent years, as he is so mobile for a big man... but he is "smaller" than Hakeem or Robinson though. (Hakeem was 6'11 (7'0) with 7'5 wingspan and 255 pounds, Robinson was 7'1 with around 7'4~7'5 wingspan and over 250 pounds also)


But all I know is Ayton has the body and physical abilities to be a league leader in rebounds and FG%... he would finish lobs easily for sure.


Bagley to me is too mobile to be Duncan.... Bagley is a slower, bulkier but less length Durant... Bosh is a good comparison as NBA Draft has him listed.


Mamba is Gobert like... maybe a bigger Camby... which is great!...but we all know Camby was so fragile when he was new to the league. Hence I like Ayton, because I see a mini-lesser Admiral skills/talent/mobility wise... but same size and explosiveness

[kennydorglas]

Ayton - KAT
Bagley - Griffin
Bamba - Gobert
JJJ - Bosh? Ibaka?

[bwgood77]

Ayton - KAT
Bagley - Griffin
Bamba - Gobert
JJJ - Bosh? Ibaka?

I think those sound good..I think of Bagley like Griffin/Amare...not sure he is the passer Griffin is. But maybe someone who rebounds more than either (though Blake would probably get a lot more if not playing with DMC) and Marion was such a great rebounder that Amare may have gotten more too if he didn't play with him.

JJJ is a tough one...maybe a 3 pt shooting poor man's Tim Duncan? I think he's better at D than Bosh..maybe prime Ibaka defensively but not as physically imposing. He maybe like a 3 pt shooting Marcus Camby...yeah, I think I like that the best.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Michael Porter might benefit from not playing the longer the season goes the more critical thinking goes into the other 6 guys.

[darealjuice]

I'm pretty scared of Porter right now, back injuries at a young age don't typically bode well. His medical evaluation's are gonna have a large impact on his draft stock, especially if he doesn't get back on the court to show he can compete at a high level this year.

[jcsunsfan]

Damn I just bought tickets to the Texas/Oklahoma game next week but never got the email with the tickets. So I figured maybe it didn't go through but there is a pending charge on my credit card. Tickets are going fast too...and you can't call them until Monday. I kind of want to buy some more because I think this charge is a mistake but not sure.

It might have gone to a junk folder.

[bwgood77]

Damn I just bought tickets to the Texas/Oklahoma game next week but never got the email with the tickets. So I figured maybe it didn't go through but there is a pending charge on my credit card. Tickets are going fast too...and you can't call them until Monday. I kind of want to buy some more because I think this charge is a mistake but not sure.

It might have gone to a junk folder.

Checked that. I'm pretty sure the purchase didn't go through. The strange thing is I was putting in my card number by memory and it gave me an error message that it wasn't working, so I went into the other room to get the card and the screen was back at square one. Like I would have had to start all over. But it seemed odd so I checked my email and online card account and there is a pending charge. I don't think it went through and I can't call until Monday but it looks like there are plenty of seats for me to wait to re-purchase even if they won't be so good. I'm guessing/hoping this pending charge drops off.

[gaspar]

Ayton - KAT
Bagley - Griffin
Bamba - Gobert
JJJ - Bosh? Ibaka?

Ayton - Jahlil Okafor with a better jumper
Bagley - 6-11 Kenneth Faried
Bamba - Hasheem Thabeet
JJJ - Noah Vonleh

Trae - DJ Augustin
Sexton - Tony Wroten
Doncic - Denzel Valentine

[Damkac]

I see you are very excited for this draft

[lilfishi22]

I don't see Amare in Bagley. Bosh makes a lot more sense imo. He's longer but less explosive and doesn't appear to be as strong as Amare either although that will change over time. I was wrong about Bagley, I saw a lot of bust potential in him before he college season started but he's changed my mind.

[No-Man]

I still loved what i saw from Young. Even through his teammates short comings he still tried to get them involved. It amazes me how much he is able to do with how little. And on the other hand, still not impressed with Sexton. Like Bledsoe minus the court vision and playmaking (Which really says something because Bledsoe lacked in those areas too). IDK, i guess i just expect more from a PG, Sexton seems to be decent is some aspects, and completely lacking in others, while also not being great at anything.

What I like about Sexton is his floor, he is gonna be a solid rotation player at the very worst, transition scorer, has balls and will force things if needed, plays tough on D when needed, that's fine, but like I don't see the upside, the pull-up jumper is rigid and I have a hard time seeing him as a good off-ball player, his playmaking lacks a ton, he is the ideal guy if he improves his shooting to have next to a playmaking wing, so that as a floor is fine, I just don't see him ever been an All Star level guard, or close to it (top10 PG).

[No-Man]

I don't see Amare in Bagley. Bosh makes a lot more sense imo. He's longer but less explosive and doesn't appear to be as strong as Amare either although that will change over time. I was wrong about Bagley, I saw a lot of bust potential in him before he college season started but he's changed my mind.

He still has a ton of bust potential for a top5 guy, if he ends up as just a garbage man, that's pretty bad

He is much more similar to Amare than anything, less power and better defensive tools (footwork esp), I know that the body type doesnt make sense, but otherwise their games are pretty similar

[No-Man]

Ayton - KAT
Bagley - Griffin
Bamba - Gobert
JJJ - Bosh? Ibaka?

I think those sound good..I think of Bagley like Griffin/Amare...not sure he is the passer Griffin is. But maybe someone who rebounds more than either (though Blake would probably get a lot more if not playing with DMC) and Marion was such a great rebounder that Amare may have gotten more too if he didn't play with him.

JJJ is a tough one...maybe a 3 pt shooting poor man's Tim Duncan? I think he's better at D than Bosh..maybe prime Ibaka defensively but not as physically imposing. He maybe like a 3 pt shooting Marcus Camby...yeah, I think I like that the best.

Not only not the passer, not even close to Griffin handles, Bagley's handles limit him a ton.

Blake was a better rebounder than Bagley at OU and had a better frame too, so not sure.

triple J is the 3&D version of Bosh without as much ability to create his own shot, basically Miami's Bosh-lite if you wish, that's his ceiling.
Not really similar to Camby, he is more fluid.