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2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.)

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Re: 2017/2018 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.) 

Post#1201 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:28 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:id be happy to get Abrines and/or Grant for Lee

NO doesnt seem to have much


Thunder mod, Andre Roberstan, said we would do Lee for Singler, Abrines and a no. 2. I'd do that.
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Post#1202 » by NoLayupRule » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:56 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:id be happy to get Abrines and/or Grant for Lee

NO doesnt seem to have much


Thunder mod, Andre Roberstan, said we would do Lee for Singler, Abrines and a no. 2. I'd do that.

Im not really familiar with Singler but Abrines is a shooter, which we could always use, and 2nd rounders always help

Id wish for more than that for Lee though

hes a great piece for a real team in a career year
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Post#1203 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:01 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:id be happy to get Abrines and/or Grant for Lee

NO doesnt seem to have much


Thunder mod, Andre Roberstan, said we would do Lee for Singler, Abrines and a no. 2. I'd do that.

Im not really familiar with Singler but Abrines is a shooter, which we could always use, and 2nd rounders always help

Id wish for more than that for Lee though

hes a great piece for a real team in a career year


I always thought that having some veteran leadership on the team was important, but Lee's contract is backloaded some so I think it would be difficult to pass up a deal that helps us clear significant cap space while bringing in another young shooter and acquiring a second round pick, which we don't have many of. I just don't think they would part with Ferguson. But if we add O'Quinn, then we could also get Huestis and Grant. They seem to be open to that.
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Post#1204 » by KnicksGadfly » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:12 am

NoLayupRule wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:id be happy to get Abrines and/or Grant for Lee

NO doesnt seem to have much


Thunder mod, Andre Roberstan, said we would do Lee for Singler, Abrines and a no. 2. I'd do that.

Im not really familiar with Singler but Abrines is a shooter, which we could always use, and 2nd rounders always help

Id wish for more than that for Lee though

hes a great piece for a real team in a career year


I think we should hold out for more. The OKC deal is not the best. Courtney Lee is the type of guy who could fit with any team in this league, and his contract is very movable. We just need to find the right team.
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Post#1205 » by draftbarnes » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:50 am

Yeah that is a terrible deal for lee
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Post#1206 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:53 am

Like I posted in the other thread, if there’s no deal then what? Stay in th 10th seed area in the east without getting further assets?
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Post#1207 » by Knicksfan20 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:06 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:Like I posted in the other thread, if there’s no deal then what? Stay in th 10th seed area in the east without getting further assets?


Garbage isnt assets though. A late 2nd is nothing. Singler is on a bad contract also.

Keep Lee and if anything trade him next year. Hes not hurting us and hes a great locker room guy.
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Post#1208 » by Riot Randolph » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:07 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:Like I posted in the other thread, if there’s no deal then what? Stay in th 10th seed area in the east without getting further assets?

Free that money and sign Hezonja!
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Post#1209 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:10 am

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Knickstape1214 wrote:Like I posted in the other thread, if there’s no deal then what? Stay in th 10th seed area in the east without getting further assets?


Garbage isnt assets though. A late 2nd is nothing. Singler is on a bad contract also.

Keep Lee and if anything trade him next year. Hes not hurting us and hes a great locker room guy.


Two seconds, three young players, and a matching contract necessary isn’t not nothing for Lee either. Is it what he’s worth? No, but we aren’t going to get his full value in all likelihood. I personally don’t care about him being a great locker room guy as a reason to keep him, but that’s just me.
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Post#1210 » by NoLayupRule » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:10 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:Like I posted in the other thread, if there’s no deal then what? Stay in th 10th seed area in the east without getting further assets?

Unless I’m mistaken all this chatter is just here

I haven’t seen anything in the media

But if we’re looking for a fire sale on salary and talent so we can continue the tank we have to be careful how that’s perceived by our franchise player who’s not in team tank
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Post#1211 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:17 am

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Knickstape1214 wrote:Like I posted in the other thread, if there’s no deal then what? Stay in th 10th seed area in the east without getting further assets?

Unless I’m mistaken all this chatter is just here

I haven’t seen anything in the media

But if we’re looking for a fire sale on salary and talent so we can continue the tank we have to be careful how that’s perceived by our franchise player who’s not in team tank


Yep, nothing in the media yet. I think if we end up with a top pick and take a step forward next year, KP will be just fine.
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Post#1212 » by NoLayupRule » Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:24 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:Like I posted in the other thread, if there’s no deal then what? Stay in th 10th seed area in the east without getting further assets?

Unless I’m mistaken all this chatter is just here

I haven’t seen anything in the media

But if we’re looking for a fire sale on salary and talent so we can continue the tank we have to be careful how that’s perceived by our franchise player who’s not in team tank


Yep, nothing in the media yet. I think if we end up with a top pick and take a step forward next year, KP will be just fine.

I agree

But the danger is moving lee, koq or kanter - or letting them walk where relevant - and the pick needing time to develop

We might be doing the right thing long term but the 2 steps back before the 3 steps forward might be dangerous for the Kp relationship

I don’t know what the alternative is but I wouldn’t be in a major rush to move lee or koq for scraps

Two seconds, if that’s even on the table, don’t present much real value coming from a good team

It’s just slightly more speaking than nothing at all
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Post#1213 » by Mecca » Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:45 am

Getting rid of Lee kills like 7 birds in one stone.

First off.. you move him and it opens time for a Frank/Burke backcourt experiment.

Secondly, Dotson gets burn

Lastly, we get a better pick
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Post#1214 » by BowlRips » Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:49 am

Mecca wrote:Getting rid of Lee kills like 7 birds in one stone.

First off.. you move him and it opens time for a Frank/Burke backcourt experiment.

Secondly, Dotson gets burn

Lastly, we get a better pick


4th, you can trade in Lee's 2 years remaining for a deal with 1 year remaining and free up 13mil in cap space for Summer 2019, which is when we will be ready to make our move
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Post#1215 » by Meat » Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:08 am

Knicksfan20 wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:Like I posted in the other thread, if there’s no deal then what? Stay in th 10th seed area in the east without getting further assets?


Garbage isnt assets though. A late 2nd is nothing. Singler is on a bad contract also.

Keep Lee and if anything trade him next year. Hes not hurting us and hes a great locker room guy.

every win he contributes to hurts the knicks
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Post#1216 » by NoLayupRule » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:06 am

BowlRips wrote:
Mecca wrote:Getting rid of Lee kills like 7 birds in one stone.

First off.. you move him and it opens time for a Frank/Burke backcourt experiment.

Secondly, Dotson gets burn

Lastly, we get a better pick


4th, you can trade in Lee's 2 years remaining for a deal with 1 year remaining and free up 13mil in cap space for Summer 2019, which is when we will be ready to make our move

Summer 2019 when we’re ready to make our move


You can substitute that year for about 7 over the last 10 and the quote would have been the same


Any day now

We just need to suck a little bit longer
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Post#1217 » by BowlRips » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:10 am

NoLayupRule wrote:
BowlRips wrote:
Mecca wrote:Getting rid of Lee kills like 7 birds in one stone.

First off.. you move him and it opens time for a Frank/Burke backcourt experiment.

Secondly, Dotson gets burn

Lastly, we get a better pick


4th, you can trade in Lee's 2 years remaining for a deal with 1 year remaining and free up 13mil in cap space for Summer 2019, which is when we will be ready to make our move

Summer 2019 when we’re ready to make our move


You can substitute that year for about 7 over the last 10 and the quote would have been the same


Any day now

We just need to suck a little bit longer


nah the team has been thinking that every year is the year we are ready to make the move, which is why we have been **** since 2000.
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Post#1218 » by Knicksfan20 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:25 am

I’m pretty sure Lee has enough respect/value around the league to command a late first or a future protected pick. He plays at the top of his game against all the top teams.

OKC/San Antonio/Hou/GSW/Clv/Toronto/Miami all could use him. He’s a great locker room guy and competes every game.

In a deal where we take make a matching/bad contract and an inferior player, and first isn’t out of the question.

Also Lee and Oquinn could be paired together and get us a late first from somebody. I’m pretty sure of it. In these deals we have to take back trash players on bad contracts. U gotta pay up

If you can get a 2nd now for Lee, you can get a second in the offseason or next year as well. Have to treat Lee like an asset which he is despite his age.
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Post#1219 » by Knicksfan20 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:44 am

*Ring ring ring *

Perry: Hello?
Presti: Hi it’s Sam Presti. We have interest in Oquinn and Lee since we have no backup and no starting SG. We offer Singer/Grant/Abrines/Huestis and a second.
Perry: So trash, Trash, trash, and more trash? Give me ferg and a second. U can keep your pick of the 3 besides singler.
Presti: we are not trading Ferg. What about two second rounders?
Perry: No. Ferg or a first rounder.
Presti. We really don’t want to trade a first or Ferg. What about 3 seconds?
Perry:. You can give me a first/future first/or Ferg or I’ll trade them to Houston and Goldenstate. They both offered me 2 seconds as well.
Presti. Ok we have a deal. (Or not whatever)

Could even swap Jack for Felton which would be a huge upgrade. Get us the first.


Basically. OKC can offer us trash for two quality players. OQuinn is a top bench big who’s has an overall game. Lee has shown he can be a versitile scorer while being a top 3pt shooter/ft shooter. Give me a first or I have no reason to trade these guys to you.

Late 2nds are practically UDFA. It’s why teams sell them off. There are 100 different dudes who could be drafted 55 overall.

I want to develop the young guys also, but making a trade just to make a trade is bad business. We have quality players that people want. Pay up or watch then go to Your competitors.
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Post#1220 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:47 am

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