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Post#21 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:39 pm

Badonkadonk wrote:Can't really expect anything different from the most xenophobic sports city in 'Murica.


CHL is a parody account. Go look at his post history, its all satire. Lighten up

Also, Toronto literally enacted a special tax for foreigners who buy homes within the past year— you might not want to call others xenophobic.
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Post#22 » by Taget » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:25 pm

Why focus on the "I want outs" when their original sin is when Isiah Thomas said, "I want in!" and helped put the organization in motion?

Off topic but a quick observation. Our IT has done us three favors. First two are obvious. Put the Celtics back on the NBA radar which helped us attract free agents and become a contender. And second as our secret agent in Cleveland's locker room.

But third as I discovered while typing the above if you type "Isiah Thomas" in google it autocorrects you and suggests "Isaiah Thomas" instead. Thank you IT for helping bury the cretin who played for Detroit.
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Post#23 » by truth18 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:04 pm

Badonkadonk wrote:Can't really expect anything different from the most xenophobic sports city in 'Murica.


Lmao @Raptors lurkers thinking this is serious.

The funny thing is, CHL has been making fun of Canada years before the rift that occurred on RealGM between Cs fans and Raptors fans. Pretty sure he's just a self hating Canadian.

I wouldn't have known about bagged milk and bear claws without him :lol: .

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Post#24 » by GoCeltics123 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:23 pm

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GoCeltics123 wrote:This is a legendary thread not only it's funny but because Raps fans think this is serious. They're as triggered as Sixers fans who get mad every time you say they lost the Fultz trade.

Also, the guy who wrote it is Canadian :lol:

Found it pretty funny but also find it funny your fanbase also says they dont think of toronto :lol:

It's just an arrogance. But of course I take Toronto seriously, as of now I think they'd beat us in a 7 game series without bench upgrades for Boston.
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Post#27 » by Oakvillehoops » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:12 pm

Love you guys too ❤️

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Post#28 » by Duffman100 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:36 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Badonkadonk wrote:Can't really expect anything different from the most xenophobic sports city in 'Murica.


CHL is a parody account. Go look at his post history, its all satire. Lighten up

Also, Toronto literally enacted a special tax for foreigners who buy homes within the past year— you might not want to call others xenophobic.


It was a measure to stabilize an out of control housing market. Foreign investors were purchasing houses, leaving them unoccupied and selling them years later to capitalize. Hardly xenopobic. I don't think you can call one of, if not the most diverse city in the world, xenophobic.

That being said, I don't agree with impugning an entire group of people ever. Boston was an incredibly friendly and warm city when I visited. Granted I'm a white guy, but still.
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Post#29 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:55 pm

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Badonkadonk wrote:Can't really expect anything different from the most xenophobic sports city in 'Murica.


CHL is a parody account. Go look at his post history, its all satire. Lighten up

Also, Toronto literally enacted a special tax for foreigners who buy homes within the past year— you might not want to call others xenophobic.


It was a measure to stabilize an out of control housing market. Foreign investors were purchasing houses, leaving them unoccupied and selling them years later to capitalize. Hardly xenopobic. I don't think you can call one of, if not the most diverse city in the world, xenophobic.

That being said, I don't agree with impugning an entire group of people ever. Boston was an incredibly friendly and warm city when I visited.


Look, I dont want to get into it, but its an act designed to discourage foreigners from purchasing real estate and to keep them out under the guise of a property bubble. The pricing surge has since regressed and depressedand yet the tax still remains.

Im against painting cities under a broad stroke, but Toronto, between that and electing a self proclaimed racist in Rob Ford, shouldnt be the city thats eager to cast stones.

For the record, Boston has a lot of ugly and a lot of beauty. Toronto, too, has a lot of ugly and a lot of beauty. Residents of either city shouldnt be eager to try to demean the other.
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Post#30 » by Duffman100 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:58 pm

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SmartWentCrazy wrote:
CHL is a parody account. Go look at his post history, its all satire. Lighten up

Also, Toronto literally enacted a special tax for foreigners who buy homes within the past year— you might not want to call others xenophobic.


It was a measure to stabilize an out of control housing market. Foreign investors were purchasing houses, leaving them unoccupied and selling them years later to capitalize. Hardly xenopobic. I don't think you can call one of, if not the most diverse city in the world, xenophobic.

That being said, I don't agree with impugning an entire group of people ever. Boston was an incredibly friendly and warm city when I visited.


Look, I dont want to get into it, but its an act designed to discourage foreigners from purchasing real estate and to keep them out under the guise of a property bubble. The pricing surge has since regressed and depressedand yet the tax still remains.

Im against painting cities under a broad stroke, but Toronto, between that and electing a self proclaimed racist in Rob Ford, shouldnt be the city thats eager to cast stones.

For the record, Boston has a lot of ugly and a lot of beauty. Toronto, too, has a lot of ugly and a lot of beauty. Residents of either city shouldnt be eager to try to demean the other.


It's an act to stem the decrease of affordable housing for the actual people who live in the city (of any race). Not outside foreign investors who have zero plan to ever live in the city.
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Post#31 » by SmartWentCrazy » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:13 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
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It was a measure to stabilize an out of control housing market. Foreign investors were purchasing houses, leaving them unoccupied and selling them years later to capitalize. Hardly xenopobic. I don't think you can call one of, if not the most diverse city in the world, xenophobic.

That being said, I don't agree with impugning an entire group of people ever. Boston was an incredibly friendly and warm city when I visited.


Look, I dont want to get into it, but its an act designed to discourage foreigners from purchasing real estate and to keep them out under the guise of a property bubble. The pricing surge has since regressed and depressedand yet the tax still remains.

Im against painting cities under a broad stroke, but Toronto, between that and electing a self proclaimed racist in Rob Ford, shouldnt be the city thats eager to cast stones.

For the record, Boston has a lot of ugly and a lot of beauty. Toronto, too, has a lot of ugly and a lot of beauty. Residents of either city shouldnt be eager to try to demean the other.


It's an act to stem the decrease of affordable housing for the actual people who live in the city (of any race). Not outside foreign investors who have zero plan to ever live in the city.


A tax designed specifically to punish those not from your nation is xenophobic. Im sorry that you disagree.
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Post#32 » by Taget » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:10 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Badonkadonk wrote:Can't really expect anything different from the most xenophobic sports city in 'Murica.


CHL is a parody account. Go look at his post history, its all satire. Lighten up

Also, Toronto literally enacted a special tax for foreigners who buy homes within the past year— you might not want to call others xenophobic.


It was a measure to stabilize an out of control housing market. Foreign investors were purchasing houses, leaving them unoccupied and selling them years later to capitalize. Hardly xenopobic. I don't think you can call one of, if not the most diverse city in the world, xenophobic.

That being said, I don't agree with impugning an entire group of people ever. Boston was an incredibly friendly and warm city when I visited. Granted I'm a white guy, but still.


Definitely see that in NYC which along with London and Dubai is a center of money laundering via real estate.

And as said above. I don't think anyone much cares about Toronto or Canada. I have visited Toronto a few times before and have found it to be a lovely city. Now Hamilton on the other hand. Let's just say it reminded me of Gary Indiana. I don't mind the team that much (since Isiah left). They've managed to build a good team despite a lot of different forces working against them. CHL however does write some funny stuff on occasion and the Raptors are his favorite target.
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Post#33 » by Big Baby » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:16 am

Duffman100 wrote:
It was a measure to stabilize an out of control housing market. Foreign investors were purchasing houses, leaving them unoccupied and selling them years later to capitalize. Hardly xenopobic. I don't think you can call one of, if not the most diverse city in the world, xenophobic.

So how’s that working out so far?
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Post#34 » by SuperDeluxe » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:52 am

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Look, I dont want to get into it, but its an act designed to discourage foreigners from purchasing real estate and to keep them out under the guise of a property bubble. The pricing surge has since regressed and depressedand yet the tax still remains.

Im against painting cities under a broad stroke, but Toronto, between that and electing a self proclaimed racist in Rob Ford, shouldnt be the city thats eager to cast stones.

For the record, Boston has a lot of ugly and a lot of beauty. Toronto, too, has a lot of ugly and a lot of beauty. Residents of either city shouldnt be eager to try to demean the other.


It's an act to stem the decrease of affordable housing for the actual people who live in the city (of any race). Not outside foreign investors who have zero plan to ever live in the city.


A tax designed specifically to punish those not from your nation is xenophobic. Im sorry that you disagree.

I'm Canadian, living in Montreal. These foreign investors are buying properties left and right, sometimes offering more than the asking price. Then they wait, their houses sitting empty and unused. When they sell, the profit that they make is the direct result of the price increase they themselves created. The main victims of this speculative operations? Young professionals hoping to buy their first house or condo.

I own two properties and this whole situation benefits me personally but frankly, for the greater good, it needs to end sooner rather than later.
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Post#35 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:33 am

Big Baby wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
It was a measure to stabilize an out of control housing market. Foreign investors were purchasing houses, leaving them unoccupied and selling them years later to capitalize. Hardly xenopobic. I don't think you can call one of, if not the most diverse city in the world, xenophobic.

So how’s that working out so far?


It's been in effect in British Columbia for over a year. No effect at all for housing prices. :lol:
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Post#36 » by SmartWentCrazy » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:49 am

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SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
It's an act to stem the decrease of affordable housing for the actual people who live in the city (of any race). Not outside foreign investors who have zero plan to ever live in the city.


A tax designed specifically to punish those not from your nation is xenophobic. Im sorry that you disagree.

I'm Canadian, living in Montreal. These foreign investors are buying properties left and right, sometimes offering more than the asking price. Then they wait, their houses sitting empty and unused. When they sell, the profit that they make is the direct result of the price increase they themselves created. The main victims of this speculative operations? Young professionals hoping to buy their first house or condo.

I own two properties and this whole situation benefits me personally but frankly, for the greater good, it needs to end sooner rather than later.


Again, it may be well intentioned, but a law designed to disadvantaged foreigners and disuade them from coming to your city is by definition Xenophobic.
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Post#37 » by SuperDeluxe » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:55 am

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A tax designed specifically to punish those not from your nation is xenophobic. Im sorry that you disagree.

I'm Canadian, living in Montreal. These foreign investors are buying properties left and right, sometimes offering more than the asking price. Then they wait, their houses sitting empty and unused. When they sell, the profit that they make is the direct result of the price increase they themselves created. The main victims of this speculative operations? Young professionals hoping to buy their first house or condo.

I own two properties and this whole situation benefits me personally but frankly, for the greater good, it needs to end sooner rather than later.


Again, it may be well intentioned, but a law designed to disadvantaged foreigners and disuade them from coming to your city is by definition Xenophobic.

I don't think you understand. They have no interest in coming to our cities. They buy from overseas, they stay wherever they are, they sell from overseas.

Fun fact: many countries completely forbid the purchase of real estate property by foreigners.
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SuperDeluxe wrote:I'm Canadian, living in Montreal. These foreign investors are buying properties left and right, sometimes offering more than the asking price. Then they wait, their houses sitting empty and unused. When they sell, the profit that they make is the direct result of the price increase they themselves created. The main victims of this speculative operations? Young professionals hoping to buy their first house or condo.

I own two properties and this whole situation benefits me personally but frankly, for the greater good, it needs to end sooner rather than later.


Again, it may be well intentioned, but a law designed to disadvantaged foreigners and disuade them from coming to your city is by definition Xenophobic.

I don't think you understand. They have no interest in coming to our cities. They buy form overseas, they stay wherever they are, they sell from overseas.


So if I, an American, wanted to move to Toronto and buy a home, would i pay the tax? If the answer is no, then i agree with you. If the answer is yes, i dont understand how that isnt xenophobic.

For the record, pretty much everyone home on Boston goes over list and many new construction units have been purchased by Chinese nationals. No similar tax has been introduced.
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SmartWentCrazy wrote:So if I, an American, wanted to move to Toronto and buy a home, would i pay the tax? If the answer is no, then i agree with you. If the answer is yes, i dont understand how that isnt xenophobic.

I'm not familiar with the tax in Toronto (I live in a different province). Regardless, before moving to Toronto you'd need to obtain a permanent-resident visa, like everybody else. Once you have the visa and move there, I can't imagine you having to pay that tax (whose only goal is to discourage speculation with real estate prices).

SmartWentCrazy wrote:For the record, pretty much everyone home on Boston goes over list and many new construction units have been purchased by Chinese nationals. No similar tax has been introduced.

Which is fine. Are those foreigners planning on moving to Boston once the new construction is finished?
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Post#40 » by SmartWentCrazy » Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:25 am

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SmartWentCrazy wrote:So if I, an American, wanted to move to Toronto and buy a home, would i pay the tax? If the answer is no, then i agree with you. If the answer is yes, i dont understand how that isnt xenophobic.

I'm not familiar with the tax in Toronto (I live in a different province). Regardless, before moving to Toronto you'd need to obtain a permanent-resident visa, like everybody else. Once you have the visa and move there, I can't imagine you having to pay that tax (whose only goal is to discourage speculation with real estate prices).

SmartWentCrazy wrote:For the record, pretty much everyone home on Boston goes over list and many new construction units have been purchased by Chinese nationals. No similar tax has been introduced.

Which is fine. Are those foreigners planning on moving to Boston once the new construction is finished?


If your first point is true, then im wrong— my understanding was that any foreigner purchasing would be subject to the tax.

Regarding the second point, their ownership is a mix with some speculation, some residencies for family and some for themselves.

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