Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 5

Post #1261 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:38 pm

BobbieL wrote:
NTB wrote:

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Gambo has been wrong a lot lately

The only story I think he broke was Duval Reed - and I wish he was wrong that time. It should have been the guy GSW paid 3m for, Jordan Bell?

We've discussed that connection quite a bit in the past. I used to kind of like the Bradley idea, or at least thought he might make the most sense out of who is a free agent and knew McD probably liked him and had that connection.

But looking at his numbers lately leave me a bit concerned. Especially if we were going to give him a big contract.

I mean when you have a negative DRPM for at least three years and are under 50% TS%, you are obviously not good on either end. I mean he has a negative VORP. I mean if you are measured as worse than a replacement player than you really shouldn't get much of a contract at all.

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Mulhollanddrive · Post #1262 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:49 pm

Ideally I'd wait for the off-season so we can maintain a top 5 pick.

But in isolation I'd do Whiteside, Johnson for Chandler, Dudley, Miami 1st, Memphis 2nd, Toronto 2nd.

Post #1263 » by **ATTL** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:57 pm

Gambo is reading our board for free agency ideas

Saberestar · Post #1264 » by **Saberestar** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:58 pm

NTB wrote:

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I agree.

Look, we need a lot of things but 3p shooting and defense are the more needed IMO. That is exactly what Bradley brings to the table.

I know that his stats are not great this season so far, but he has been consistently good for a good number of years before. Everyone around the league respects his great defense.

Read on Twitter

He is in his prime and he fits perfectly with our core because we want Book to create with the ball.
If we draft one frontcourt player (Ayton, Bamba, Bagley or Jackson) he makes a lot of sense.

Post #1265 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:01 pm

ATTL wrote:Gambo is reading our board for free agency ideas

Next he will say he won't be surprised if we try to make a trade for Whiteside, giving Miami the Monroe contract so they can clear cap space to sign Ellington.

Saberestar · Post #1266 » by **Saberestar** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:03 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
ATTL wrote:Gambo is reading our board for free agency ideas

Next he will say he won't be surprised if we try to make a trade for Whiteside, giving Miami the Monroe contract so they can clear cap space to sign Ellington.

Saberestar · Post #1267 » by **Saberestar** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:05 pm

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BobbieL · Post #1268 » by **BobbieL** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:08 pm

Saberestar wrote:

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Didn't they just sign him as their franchise player

Really, the first guy ever to really want to be a Clipper for life?

How quickly things turn when the WojBombs are announced

harris and Bradley for griffin?

BobbieL · Post #1269 » by **BobbieL** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:09 pm

Saberestar wrote:
NTB wrote:

Read on Twitter

I agree.

Look, we need a lot of things but 3p shooting and defense are the more needed IMO. That is exactly what Bradley brings to the table.

I know that his stats are not great this season so far, but he has been consistently good for a good number of years before. Everyone around the league respects his great defense.

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

He is in his prime and he fits perfectly with our core because we want Book to create with the ball.
If we draft one frontcourt player (Ayton, Bamba, Bagley or Jackson) he makes a lot of sense.

why not just trade for him now

Post #1270 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:12 pm

Saberestar wrote:

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Woah, what could that be? This would have to include multiple picks. I would want to say they'd need to include Drummond or Harris to get a player like that, but maybe they really have decided to rebuild since Beverley is out, Jordan is expiring and they don't want to max him, etc.

Just kind of shocked if it's true they would trade a franchise guy in the beginning of a contract, and they just recruited him with stuf like:

It would have to be at least two firsts, Kennard, Johnson, Ellenson and Bradley or something like that....that still doesn't seem like enough though.

I wonder if we would suddenly give them a call and give them Monroe, picks and other pieces.

matt131 · Post #1271 » by **matt131** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:14 pm

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BobbieL · Post #1272 » by **BobbieL** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:15 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Saberestar wrote:

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Woah, what could that be? This would have to include multiple picks. I would want to say they'd need to include Drummond or Harris to get a player like that, but maybe they really have decided to rebuild since Beverley is out, Jordan is expiring and they don't want to max him, etc.

Just kind of shocked if it's true they would trade a franchise guy in the beginning of a contract, and they just recruited him with stuf like:

It would have to be at least two firsts, Kennard, Johnson, Ellenson and Bradley or something like that....that still doesn't seem like enough though.

I wonder if we would suddenly give them a call and give them Monroe, picks and other pieces.

Actually, I think it would have to be Chandler as Monroe is expiring . Granted for one year Suns could suck it up

Monroe Heat Pick. Chriss, Suns future pick , Ulis , Jackson or Warren?

Post #1273 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:18 pm

This doesn't seem like nearly enough...

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Post #1274 » by **lilfishi22** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:20 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Ideally I'd wait for the off-season so we can maintain a top 5 pick.

But in isolation I'd do Whiteside, Johnson for Chandler, Dudley, Miami 1st, Memphis 2nd, Toronto 2nd.

I wouldn't. I'm not particularly fond of Johnson and he's due to be paid $19.6m in each of the following two seasons for 12/3.6/2 on pretty pedestrian efficiency. Not keen to have both him and Knight on the same roster.

ImNotMcDiSwear · Post #1275 » by **ImNotMcDiSwear** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:21 pm

bwgood77 wrote:This doesn't seem like nearly enough...

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That is basically a salary dump.

Post #1276 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:22 pm

Maybe if the Clips are blowing it up we should trade for Beverley. He's out for this season but makes $5 million next season and has an unguaranteed $5 million the next.

That is your perfect 3&D vet PG next to Booker and then if you draft one you have a great 3 guard rotation or bring the rook slowly or start off the bench until they earn it.

Beverley $5 million even if have to trade an asset >>>>>>>>>>> Bradley at $15-$20 million for multiple years.

Post #1277 » by **lilfishi22** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:22 pm

BobbieL wrote:
Saberestar wrote:
NTB wrote:

Read on Twitter

I agree.

Look, we need a lot of things but 3p shooting and defense are the more needed IMO. That is exactly what Bradley brings to the table.

I know that his stats are not great this season so far, but he has been consistently good for a good number of years before. Everyone around the league respects his great defense.

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

He is in his prime and he fits perfectly with our core because we want Book to create with the ball.
If we draft one frontcourt player (Ayton, Bamba, Bagley or Jackson) he makes a lot of sense.

why not just trade for him now

Cost us assets and he's only contracted for the rest of this season then he's a UFA. If the price is low, I'd consider it but apparently the Pistons are asking a lot

Post #1278 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:24 pm

cosmofizzo wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:This doesn't seem like nearly enough...

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That is basically a salary dump.

You just don't (or shouldn't) salary dump a guy like Blake who has 5 years on his contract. Max level guys on fresh 5 year contracts just never get traded.

They should easily get two first rounders. Probably even more or rights to swap...swaps would likely not come in play given Detroit would probably be good but I'm sure that's what Brooklyn thought when they traded for Pierce and KG...though Blake a lot younger.

Post #1279 » by **lilfishi22** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:26 pm

bwgood77 wrote:Maybe if the Clips are blowing it up we should trade for Beverley. He's out for this season but makes $5 million next season and has an unguaranteed $5 million the next.

That is your perfect 3&D vet PG next to Booker and then if you draft one you have a great 3 guard rotation or bring the rook slowly or start off the bench until they earn it.

Beverley $5 million even if have to trade an asset >>>>>>>>>>> Bradley at $15-$20 million for multiple years.

I'd be keen for Beverley. He's a guy you love to play with but hate to play against. 3&D PG who can dish some (4.2apg last season) would be great next to Book. He's also on a bargain deal.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1280 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:27 pm

bwgood77 wrote:Maybe if the Clips are blowing it up we should trade for Beverley. He's out for this season but makes $5 million next season and has an unguaranteed $5 million the next.

That is your perfect 3&D vet PG next to Booker and then if you draft one you have a great 3 guard rotation or bring the rook slowly or start off the bench until they earn it.

Beverley $5 milion even if have to trade an asset >>>>>>>>>>> Bradley at $15-$20 million for multiple years.

Man if I knew he would be back healthy I'd be all over this idea. Love Beverly but a micro fracture surgery at his age is super duper scary.