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Post#201 » by bluerap23 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:25 pm

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Kabookalu wrote:Bruno wasn't even the main target at 20th, it was either Gary Harris or Tyler Ennis. One of them is a great 3D guy, the other is mediocre at best.


Indeed, I believe that they were primed to take one of these two at 20 (they went 18 and 19), and then Bruno later. There was talk of trading for the 22nd pick by taking on the contract of Tayshaun Prince from Memphis.


That's right, when Ennis and Harris were gone, Masai was going to trade back and pick up Capela and hope that Bruno was still there in the 2nd round, but they heard that other teams like SA were interested and they were high enough on Bruno to pull the trigger at 20. Capela has turned into a nice player, but I still think Bruno's ceiling is much higher. If Masai is anything, it's patient. Bruno was always going to be a long play and I have to figure he's right where they would want him to be at this point. There have been definite set backs, but also clear breakthroughs. He's responded well and that's all you can expect considering where he started. There will be more setbacks in the NBA, but I'm sure if the team doesn't give up on him, he'll figure it out.

I’ve never really believed the SA narrative. I think they are pretty happy to have Kyle Anderson over Bruno. But it would have been very interesting to see how Pop would have developed Bruno.
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Post#202 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:26 pm

dalton749 wrote:Bruno has contributed more to this franchise than most late first round picks. He’s the reason we have a gleague team, and even brought them a championship. Without Bruno, our young guys aren’t quite as ready to come into this season and contribute.

Not every pick can be a home run, but this one has been a positive, just in a different way than we were expecting.

This is his last year of raptors college, I don’t think it’s unreasonable that he could contribute next year in a similar role to a 2018 late first round draft pick.


i know - its pretty funny that people are criticizing and wanting to Masai to be fired for this pick. Let me know when a GM has hit on all thieir picks in the 1st, 2nd and undrafted pool of players eligible to be drafted. SMH. the bandwagon fans showing up when its convenient.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#203 » by -TheDocOfDenial » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:54 pm

Bruno is trash. How does he have a higher ceiling than capela lmao. The last few people on Brunos bandwaggon seem to want to hang on to the bitter end. I hope this scrub is not given a new contract and gone by the end of the year.
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Post#204 » by bape_lovers » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:03 pm

haven't seen Bruno in a raps uniform for a long time
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Post#205 » by kritical » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:03 pm

hes still 3 years away
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Post#206 » by D3158 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:13 pm

edquantum wrote:He's almost there. Only 1 year away from being 2 years away.


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Post#207 » by Zeno » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:16 pm

Bruno is much more than a player. He's a dream. Don't let the dream die. I want him on 4 year minimum deal next year.
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Post#208 » by BramptonYute » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:20 pm

dude is trash.
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Post#209 » by Raptors_Won » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:20 pm

I don't want another team member to reap what Bruno will be.
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Post#210 » by tdot56 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:25 pm

Raptors_Won wrote:I don't want another team member to reap what Bruno will be.


Indeed. Extend him for cheap...
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Post#211 » by pbj » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:29 pm

Zeno wrote:Bruno is much more than a player. He's a dream. Don't let the dream die. I want him on 4 year minimum deal next year.


I remember that dialogue in Batman Begins, it went exactly like this

Ducard: No, no, no. A PLAYER is just a man lost in the scramble for his own gratification. He can be WAIVED or TRADED. But if you make yourself more than just a man, if you devote yourself to an LIE, and if they can’t RELEASE you, then you become something else entirely.
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Post#212 » by Zeno » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:51 pm

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Zeno wrote:Bruno is much more than a player. He's a dream. Don't let the dream die. I want him on 4 year minimum deal next year.


I remember that dialogue in Batman Begins, it went exactly like this

Ducard: No, no, no. A PLAYER is just a man lost in the scramble for his own gratification. He can be WAIVED or TRADED. But if you make yourself more than just a man, if you devote yourself to an LIE, and if they can’t RELEASE you, then you become something else entirely.
Bruce Wayne: Which is?
Ducard: A MEME, Mr. Wayne.

That's my memeing exactly. #brunobegins
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Post#213 » by plainballing » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:06 pm

gbball wrote:
dagger wrote:
Kabookalu wrote:Bruno wasn't even the main target at 20th, it was either Gary Harris or Tyler Ennis. One of them is a great 3D guy, the other is mediocre at best.


Indeed, I believe that they were primed to take one of these two at 20 (they went 18 and 19), and then Bruno later. There was talk of trading for the 22nd pick by taking on the contract of Tayshaun Prince from Memphis.


That's right, when Ennis and Harris were gone, Masai was going to trade back and pick up Capela and hope that Bruno was still there in the 2nd round, but they heard that other teams like SA were interested and they were high enough on Bruno to pull the trigger at 20. Capela has turned into a nice player, but I still think Bruno's ceiling is much higher. If Masai is anything, it's patient. Bruno was always going to be a long play and I have to figure he's right where they would want him to be at this point. There have been definite set backs, but also clear breakthroughs. He's responded well and that's all you can expect considering where he started. There will be more setbacks in the NBA, but I'm sure if the team doesn't give up on him, he'll figure it out.


The thing that confused us all is that we bring Bruno over instead of leaving him oversea for a good 2-3 years. Now his rookie contract is almost up but he is nowhere close to a rotational play yet.

Unless Masai is planning to sign Bruno to 4 yrs/6 million.
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Post#214 » by Joker » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:12 pm

Let's make Bruno our Udonis Haslem. He'll be 52 and still somehow on the team. And then we'll retire his jersey.
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Post#215 » by Tofubeque » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:19 pm

Zeno wrote:Bruno is much more than a player. He's a dream. Don't let the dream die. I want him on 4 year minimum deal next year.


There's a Bruno in all of us.

The true Bruno is the friends made along the way
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Post#216 » by Kabookalu » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:20 pm

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gbball wrote:
dagger wrote:
Indeed, I believe that they were primed to take one of these two at 20 (they went 18 and 19), and then Bruno later. There was talk of trading for the 22nd pick by taking on the contract of Tayshaun Prince from Memphis.


That's right, when Ennis and Harris were gone, Masai was going to trade back and pick up Capela and hope that Bruno was still there in the 2nd round, but they heard that other teams like SA were interested and they were high enough on Bruno to pull the trigger at 20. Capela has turned into a nice player, but I still think Bruno's ceiling is much higher. If Masai is anything, it's patient. Bruno was always going to be a long play and I have to figure he's right where they would want him to be at this point. There have been definite set backs, but also clear breakthroughs. He's responded well and that's all you can expect considering where he started. There will be more setbacks in the NBA, but I'm sure if the team doesn't give up on him, he'll figure it out.


The thing that confused us all is that we bring Bruno over instead of leaving him oversea for a good 2-3 years. Now his rookie contract is almost up but he is nowhere close to a rotational play yet.

Unless Masai is planning to sign Bruno to 4 yrs/6 million.


This decision always made sense to me, and looking back it was still the right one. There's not a single team out there that would have given a **** about Bruno's development. Imagine that the 905 was given a raw player that barely spoke the language like Bruno, only to be told that he's going to be whisked away from some euroleague team in 2 years. Why should our club prioritize him over our assignments? He's not going to contribute for us, and we'll never reap the benefits of his development. So why would any team care about his development?

And as far as leaving him in Brazil, the competition there is like D4. The fact that Rafael Aruajo in his mid 30's is playing there tells you everything you need to know about the league. If we left him there and brought him over a couple of years later, we'd be in the same position, except this time we have Bruno that's a couple of years older instead of having him while he's 18.
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Post#217 » by Red_Claw » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:22 pm

plainballing wrote:
gbball wrote:
dagger wrote:
Indeed, I believe that they were primed to take one of these two at 20 (they went 18 and 19), and then Bruno later. There was talk of trading for the 22nd pick by taking on the contract of Tayshaun Prince from Memphis.


That's right, when Ennis and Harris were gone, Masai was going to trade back and pick up Capela and hope that Bruno was still there in the 2nd round, but they heard that other teams like SA were interested and they were high enough on Bruno to pull the trigger at 20. Capela has turned into a nice player, but I still think Bruno's ceiling is much higher. If Masai is anything, it's patient. Bruno was always going to be a long play and I have to figure he's right where they would want him to be at this point. There have been definite set backs, but also clear breakthroughs. He's responded well and that's all you can expect considering where he started. There will be more setbacks in the NBA, but I'm sure if the team doesn't give up on him, he'll figure it out.


The thing that confused us all is that we bring Bruno over instead of leaving him oversea for a good 2-3 years. Now his rookie contract is almost up but he is nowhere close to a rotational play yet.

Unless Masai is planning to sign Bruno to 4 yrs/6 million.


The whole "leaving him overseas" argument is stupid.

1. Brazil is not overseas where he was playing.
2. If we did decided to move him overseas (europe), how would that help a non english speaking teenager?
3. even if we part ways with Bruno in the near future, he will forever be a massive part of why we bought a g league team and won the championship.

One thing im certain about Bruno: he's a much better player under 905 than he would have been in europe, playing behind veterans and in a non English environment.
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Post#218 » by Tofubeque » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:29 pm

Kabookalu wrote:
plainballing wrote:
gbball wrote:
That's right, when Ennis and Harris were gone, Masai was going to trade back and pick up Capela and hope that Bruno was still there in the 2nd round, but they heard that other teams like SA were interested and they were high enough on Bruno to pull the trigger at 20. Capela has turned into a nice player, but I still think Bruno's ceiling is much higher. If Masai is anything, it's patient. Bruno was always going to be a long play and I have to figure he's right where they would want him to be at this point. There have been definite set backs, but also clear breakthroughs. He's responded well and that's all you can expect considering where he started. There will be more setbacks in the NBA, but I'm sure if the team doesn't give up on him, he'll figure it out.


The thing that confused us all is that we bring Bruno over instead of leaving him oversea for a good 2-3 years. Now his rookie contract is almost up but he is nowhere close to a rotational play yet.

Unless Masai is planning to sign Bruno to 4 yrs/6 million.


This decision always made sense to me, and looking back it was still the right one. There's not a single team out there that would have given a **** about Bruno's development. Imagine that the 905 was given a raw player that barely spoke the language like Bruno, only to be told that he's going to be whisked away from some euroleague team in 2 years. Why should our club prioritize him over our assignments? He's not going to contribute for us, and we'll never reap the benefits of his development. So why would any team care about his development?

And as far as leaving him in Brazil, the competition there is like D4. The fact that Rafael Aruajo in his mid 30's is playing there tells you everything you need to know about the league. If we left him there and brought him over a couple of years later, we'd be in the same position, except this time we have Bruno that's a couple of years older instead of having him while he's 18.


Plus if we didn't bring him over right away, he never would have created this Canadian Heritage Moment:

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Post#219 » by mieshpal » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:30 pm

thunderforce wrote:
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Zeno wrote:If he ever gets a chance with the big club again and craps the bed like he did in the preseason then you know it's in his head because he's not THAT far off. In theory it would be interesting to see a lineup of Lowry, DeMar, OG, Bruno, Ibaka play.


This is what frustrates me about Bruno. He really isn't that far off, yet the minute he steps on an NBA court he is.

Probably just experience . He needs to come up and play even if he makes a few mistakes , that is why I hope Casey is gone next year . Stack would probably be a lot better coach for him and we need to promote him soon or loose him .

sorry cause Bruno is not playing in the NBA this is why u want him gone ? lol tell me your not serious

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Post#220 » by mieshpal » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:32 pm

RaptorsNorth wrote:Threads like these are just sad because you see the hope some fans still have for a player you know is a scrub and you're just like........ Image

bless their hearts...

it's good to hope, but only to a certain extent with Bruno. I hope he develops, but if he doesn't than you move on. Some people act like he's actually gunna be the Brazilian KD

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