1/30 - POSTGAME | Oklahoma City Thunder (96) - (102) Washington Wizards

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Paul George | 24 PTS (8-14 FG, 4-8 3P), 6 REB
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Steven Adams | 16 PTS (6-11 FG), 12 REB
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Re: 1/30 - POSTGAME | Oklahoma City Thunder (96) - (102) Washington Wizards 

Post#41 » by ThunderBolt » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:49 pm

Lately I think Melo looks like a guy that has accepted his role. The problem is he just hasn’t been very good in that role.
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Re: 1/30 - POSTGAME | Oklahoma City Thunder (96) - (102) Washington Wizards 

Post#42 » by Reign23 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:53 pm

Knrstz wrote:Lately I think Melo looks like a guy that has accepted his role. The problem is he just hasn’t been very good in that role.


yep he had good shots against washington, just couldn't make them
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Post#43 » by spearsy23 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:12 pm

Pillendreher wrote:The Ferguson + Starters experiment needs to END.

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He's not ready for the NBA. Stop pretending that he is.

PS: Donovan has played a total of 6 guys with Russ-George-Melo-Adams:

Felton
Roberson
Ferguson
Abrines
Huestis
Grant

The only guys playing 1 through 4 not getting a chance: Kyle Singler and Pattrick Patterson.

I'm so tired of this nimwit.

Assuming Patterson just isn't an option I'd rather roll with Ferguson getting experience than watching Abrines be even worse or have Singler be mentioned.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#44 » by slick_watts » Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:14 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:The Ferguson + Starters experiment needs to END.

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He's not ready for the NBA. Stop pretending that he is.

PS: Donovan has played a total of 6 guys with Russ-George-Melo-Adams:

Felton
Roberson
Ferguson
Abrines
Huestis
Grant

The only guys playing 1 through 4 not getting a chance: Kyle Singler and Pattrick Patterson.

I'm so tired of this nimwit.

Assuming Patterson just isn't an option I'd rather roll with Ferguson getting experience than watching Abrines be even worse or have Singler be mentioned.


i'm willing to wager the starters with abrines would perform much better than the starters with ferguson (and they have performed better so far this year).

abrines can actually shoot.
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Post#45 » by Pillendreher » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:16 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:The Ferguson + Starters experiment needs to END.

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He's not ready for the NBA. Stop pretending that he is.

PS: Donovan has played a total of 6 guys with Russ-George-Melo-Adams:

Felton
Roberson
Ferguson
Abrines
Huestis
Grant

The only guys playing 1 through 4 not getting a chance: Kyle Singler and Pattrick Patterson.

I'm so tired of this nimwit.

Assuming Patterson just isn't an option I'd rather roll with Ferguson getting experience than watching Abrines be even worse or have Singler be mentioned.


And how are we winning games like that? If our 4 best guys get outperformed by the opposing best players every night, we're not gonna win many games.
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Post#46 » by spearsy23 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:34 pm

Pillendreher wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:The Ferguson + Starters experiment needs to END.

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He's not ready for the NBA. Stop pretending that he is.

PS: Donovan has played a total of 6 guys with Russ-George-Melo-Adams:

Felton
Roberson
Ferguson
Abrines
Huestis
Grant

The only guys playing 1 through 4 not getting a chance: Kyle Singler and Pattrick Patterson.

I'm so tired of this nimwit.

Assuming Patterson just isn't an option I'd rather roll with Ferguson getting experience than watching Abrines be even worse or have Singler be mentioned.


And how are we winning games like that? If our 4 best guys get outperformed by the opposing best players every night, we're not gonna win many games.

The difference between the three of them is negligible.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#47 » by spearsy23 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:39 pm

slick_watts wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
Pillendreher wrote:The Ferguson + Starters experiment needs to END.

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He's not ready for the NBA. Stop pretending that he is.

PS: Donovan has played a total of 6 guys with Russ-George-Melo-Adams:

Felton
Roberson
Ferguson
Abrines
Huestis
Grant

The only guys playing 1 through 4 not getting a chance: Kyle Singler and Pattrick Patterson.

I'm so tired of this nimwit.

Assuming Patterson just isn't an option I'd rather roll with Ferguson getting experience than watching Abrines be even worse or have Singler be mentioned.


i'm willing to wager the starters with abrines would perform much better than the starters with ferguson (and they have performed better so far this year).

abrines can actually shoot.

Ferguson is shooting like 2% less from three this month. He's probably been better overall since the first time Roberson went down.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#48 » by slick_watts » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:41 pm

spearsy23 wrote:Ferguson is shooting like 2% less from three this month. He's probably been better overall since the first time Roberson went down.


he's under 30% for the season.
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Post#49 » by spearsy23 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:39 pm

slick_watts wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:Ferguson is shooting like 2% less from three this month. He's probably been better overall since the first time Roberson went down.


he's under 30% for the season.

That doesn't really mean anything in regards to how he's playing now, there just isn't enough of a baseline. As long as he keeps hitting ~33% we might as well play him. He's no worse defensively than abrines and developmental time now may be valuable.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#50 » by slick_watts » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:48 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
slick_watts wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:Ferguson is shooting like 2% less from three this month. He's probably been better overall since the first time Roberson went down.


he's under 30% for the season.


That doesn't really mean anything in regards to how he's playing now, there just isn't enough of a baseline. As long as he keeps hitting ~33% we might as well play him. He's no worse defensively than abrines and developmental time now may be valuable.


i don't understand why we are slicing up his season if there is no 'baseline' (even though, there is- he was a 31% 3pt shooter last year in NBL with a shorter line).

and i disagree strongly with the premise that we may as well play him for developmental time.
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Post#51 » by spearsy23 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:19 pm

slick_watts wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
slick_watts wrote:
he's under 30% for the season.


That doesn't really mean anything in regards to how he's playing now, there just isn't enough of a baseline. As long as he keeps hitting ~33% we might as well play him. He's no worse defensively than abrines and developmental time now may be valuable.


i don't understand why we are slicing up his season if there is no 'baseline' (even though, there is- he was a 31% 3pt shooter last year in NBL with a shorter line).

and i disagree strongly with the premise that we may as well play him for developmental time.

Because how he played in November really isn't important when discussing who should play now.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Post#52 » by slick_watts » Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:42 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
slick_watts wrote:
spearsy23 wrote:
That doesn't really mean anything in regards to how he's playing now, there just isn't enough of a baseline. As long as he keeps hitting ~33% we might as well play him. He's no worse defensively than abrines and developmental time now may be valuable.


i don't understand why we are slicing up his season if there is no 'baseline' (even though, there is- he was a 31% 3pt shooter last year in NBL with a shorter line).

and i disagree strongly with the premise that we may as well play him for developmental time.


Because how he played in November really isn't important when discussing who should play now.


how he played in november should be factored into what to expect now.
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Post#53 » by Marcus50 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:02 pm

I am not worried about yesterdays loss. The team looked tired which is not surprising given the schedule, Dray's injury and adjustments they are having to make.

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