Should He Stay or Should He Go?- Rodney Hood

[BudTugly]

You can’t count on this guy for anything other than cashing checks. O’neale is better than him. Utah would be nuts to pay him.

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O'Neale is not better than him but Burks is. Between those 2 we are fine without Rodney. If I'm the jazz I would be shopping Rodney really hard to the Sixers for their 1st and Jonah Bolden. I'd even be willing to send out Joe Johnson for Bayless to make it happen. I really really want another pick in the 15-20 range in this draft.

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[KqWIN]

I think Hood is a better player than Burks, but he has overextended himself and bought into the go to guy mentality which he simply is not. He's also stopped any progress as a defender and is right there with Burks in terms of awful defense.

Overall it's not a huge difference, but Hood's shooting is just so much more valuable than anything Burks has to offer. I wouldn't trade him just to trade him. There's value to volume three point shooters in this league.

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I think Hood is a better player than Burks, but he has overextended himself and bought into the go to guy mentality which he simply is not. He's also stopped any progress as a defender and is right there with Burks in terms of awful defense.

Overall it's not a huge difference, but Hood's shooting is just so much more valuable than anything Burks has to offer. I wouldn't trade him just to trade him. There's value to volume three point shooters in this league.

Burks does everything on the floor better than Hood except get really hot from 3 every once in a while. Even then he has shown to be a solid 3pt shooter throughout his career. The best part about Burks though is that his game doesn't depend on his jumper being hot and cold because he contributes in other aspects of the game and gets to the free throw line a lot. These are things that Hood does not do.

[KqWIN]

I think Hood is a better player than Burks, but he has overextended himself and bought into the go to guy mentality which he simply is not. He's also stopped any progress as a defender and is right there with Burks in terms of awful defense.

Overall it's not a huge difference, but Hood's shooting is just so much more valuable than anything Burks has to offer. I wouldn't trade him just to trade him. There's value to volume three point shooters in this league.

Burks does everything on the floor better than Hood except get really hot from 3 every once in a while. Even then he has shown to be a solid 3pt shooter throughout his career. The best part about Burks though is that his game doesn't depend on his jumper being hot and cold because he contributes in other aspects of the game and gets to the free throw line a lot. These are things that Hood does not do.

I definitely would not say that. You add up all the hot and cold nights with Hood, and he's good three point shooter at a high volume. That is very important, especially for a Jazz team that spacing issues. His gravity is the biggest separation point here. He also has a much better mid range/floater game than Burks. Burks has always been terrible in the mid game.

Burks is also more prone to mistakes on both ends. Hood's performance is a make or miss thing. And while that can be infuriating, he doesn't make the backbreaking mistakes nearly as often as Burks. Burks has always had talent, but he's also never been a smart basketball player.

Again, it's not a huge difference, but to say that the only thing that Hood does well is occasionally get hot isn't something that holds water imo. Burks hasn't really been anymore consistent than Hood has.

[dr0welf]

I think Hood is a better player than Burks, but he has overextended himself and bought into the go to guy mentality which he simply is not. He's also stopped any progress as a defender and is right there with Burks in terms of awful defense.

Overall it's not a huge difference, but Hood's shooting is just so much more valuable than anything Burks has to offer. I wouldn't trade him just to trade him. There's value to volume three point shooters in this league.

Burks does everything on the floor better than Hood except get really hot from 3 every once in a while. Even then he has shown to be a solid 3pt shooter throughout his career. The best part about Burks though is that his game doesn't depend on his jumper being hot and cold because he contributes in other aspects of the game and gets to the free throw line a lot. These are things that Hood does not do.

I definitely would not say that. You add up all the hot and cold nights with Hood, and he's good three point shooter at a high volume. That is very important, especially for a Jazz team that spacing issues. His gravity is the biggest separation point here. He also has a much better mid range/floater game than Burks. Burks has always been terrible in the mid game.

Burks is also more prone to mistakes on both ends. Hood's performance is a make or miss thing. And while that can be infuriating, he doesn't make the backbreaking mistakes nearly as often as Burks. Burks has always had talent, but he's also never been a smart basketball player.

Again, it's not a huge difference, but to say that the only thing that Hood does well is occasionally get hot isn't something that holds water imo. Burks hasn't really been anymore consistent than Hood has.

My biggest concern with Hood is at times he tries to do way too much. This could be by coaches design as we went into the season believing he was the one that had to cover for Haywood's treachery. I think when he plays within the system and shoots the wide open three, he actually is worth his spot plus some. But sometimes it just seems like he's trying to prove everyone that he's the next Michael Jordan and he takes the team and himself out of the game by launching highly contested shot after shot. I'd say if we can trade him and get some good return we should do it. If not he still brings value, Coach Snyder just needs to utilize him differently or pull him quicker if he starts trying to take over the game (unless he literally does while going inferno).

[BudTugly]

O'Neale is not better than him but Burks is. Between those 2 we are fine without Rodney. If I'm the jazz I would be shopping Rodney really hard to the Sixers for their 1st and Jonah Bolden. I'd even be willing to send out Joe Johnson for Bayless to make it happen. I really really want another pick in the 15-20 range in this draft.

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Yes he is.

Nobody is buying Hood. Dude can’t stay on the court and when he does he’s garbage half the time. O’neale is available and brings it like his lunch is out there every night. I thought it was way too obvious to point out Burks is also better. Sunk cost, man. If some team will give you something take it.

I have not been a believer in Exum but I’d take the chance extending him all day long over Hood.

[Cappy_Smurf]

I think Hood is a better player than Burks, but he has overextended himself and bought into the go to guy mentality which he simply is not. He's also stopped any progress as a defender and is right there with Burks in terms of awful defense.

I don't think Hood has bought into the go to guy mentality at all. To me, he looks completely uncomfortable with it adn seems to just be trying to do what is asked of him. There have been a couple of interviews where they ask him about it, and the things he says makes it seem like he doesn't want to be a go to guy, but is trying to do what he is asked. I also think it detracts from his defensive effort, not because he isn't trying, but because he is extending a lot more energy on the offensive end.

I have no problem with Utah trading him for good value, but if they can't get it, I'd rather re-sign him and then Blake Griffin him next year.

[KqWIN]

I think Hood is a better player than Burks, but he has overextended himself and bought into the go to guy mentality which he simply is not. He's also stopped any progress as a defender and is right there with Burks in terms of awful defense.

I don't think Hood has bought into the go to guy mentality at all. To me, he looks completely uncomfortable with it adn seems to just be trying to do what is asked of him. There have been a couple of interviews where they ask him about it, and the things he says makes it seem like he doesn't want to be a go to guy, but is trying to do what he is asked. I also think it detracts from his defensive effort, not because he isn't trying, but because he is extending a lot more energy on the offensive end.

I have no problem with Utah trading him for good value, but if they can't get it, I'd rather re-sign him and then Blake Griffin him next year.

I agree, he does look uncomfortable. It looks like he's taking shots because he should be taking them. There was a lot of hype about him replacing Hayward as the go to guy, then when he was moved to the bench and the talk moved to how he needs to be instant offense off the bench...That's what I think he bought into, the belief that he had to do these things.

We did need Hood to step up and take more responsibility, but with the rise of Mitchell he needs to tone it down or bit. Or the coaching staff needs to ask him to do less. Either way, I think he is being overextended. He's one of the highest usage guys in the league. His overall efficiency isn't terrible for the burden he's taken on, but that's probably not where he needs to be.

[SoCalJazzFan]

I am pretty sure I’ve read that Hood views himself a starter and doesn’t like the coming off the bench role. However, DM is a much better player, and that coupled with potentially large offseason contract is perhaps why he is on the table.

[CAE15]

I am pretty sure I’ve read that Hood views himself a starter and doesn’t like the coming off the bench role. However, DM is a much better player, and that coupled with potentially large offseason contract is perhaps why he is on the table.

Where? Only thing I've seen is

“Just being a professional and not taking a step back and don’t think nothing less of myself,” Hood said. “I know I can play with the best of them, regardless of when I’m getting in I’ve got to put in work so that’s how I approach it.”

Especially with how Quin constantly reiterates that it doesn't matter who starts the game.

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[Andri]

As it happens always in the NBA, the absolut value and/or fit is irrelevant if the player is not a super star, the ones that determine the whole roster decisions.

A player is analyzed by his relative value accoring to the salary. So the issue with Hood is that he is likely to be overpaid for his production compared to the value of, ie, Royce and his future salary. Of course Hood is the better player, but the salary gap will not justify the gap in production, and that salary gap can be invested in increasing more the talent in other spots during the tenure of next Hood's contract

[SoCalJazzFan]

I am pretty sure I’ve read that Hood views himself a starter and doesn’t like the coming off the bench role. However, DM is a much better player, and that coupled with potentially large offseason contract is perhaps why he is on the table.

Where? Only thing I've seen is

“Just being a professional and not taking a step back and don’t think nothing less of myself,” Hood said. “I know I can play with the best of them, regardless of when I’m getting in I’ve got to put in work so that’s how I approach it.”

Especially with how Quin constantly reiterates that it doesn't matter who starts the game.

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https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2018/01/20/jazz-looking-to-trade-rodney-hood-before-nbas-deadline/

"But Hood, who views himself as a starter, was sent to the bench for Donovan Mitchell earlier in the season."

[SoCalJazzFan]

http://bkref.com/tiny/nOxqf
Comparison of stats from this season of SG UFAs who will be in competition with Hood for a new contract. Hood is a good scorer, but is less shiny in other areas.
I'm not sure if this means that the Jazz should be willing to keep him since he probably won't get a big contract given the competition and lack of cap space, or that they should be very willing to part with him.

[KqWIN]

Hood is probable tonight...so it doesn't look like he's sitting out until the deadline.

It'll be interesting to see how the rotation goes. Hood's +/- numbers have been miraculously bad this season. The team has been bad with him on the court whether he's been a starter or coming off the bench. That's an area where the Burks argument holds a lot of water. We just haven't performed well with him on the court this year.

[MTJazzv3]

I don't think Hood has bought into the go to guy mentality at all. To me, he looks completely uncomfortable with it adn seems to just be trying to do what is asked of him.

No problem there as DM is obviously by all the numbers and performances, the Jazz go-to guy. (I know it's weird and we want to doubt our luck with DM, but the fact is he leads the team in scoring and is head and shoulders a better defender than Hood). Hood is a sometimes bench heater. Crawford in his bench role prime money. He'd be great to have on the roster but not for the money he and his agent think he is worth.

[SoCalJazzFan]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2018/02/07/tyreke-evans-lou-williams-nba-trade-deadline/314549002/

http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0752861127137828424-4

If WIlliams is considering extending in the range of $8M-$10M per year, it is hard to imagine that Hood would command much more. Different contract situations, but still.

[AingesBurner]

I wonder if the Jazz will get a trade done today so they don't have to worry about Rodney getting injured tonight?

[zero24gravity]

I wonder if the Jazz will get a trade done today so they don't have to worry about Rodney getting injured tonight?

HA!

[AingesBurner]

I wonder if the Jazz will get a trade done today so they don't have to worry about Rodney getting injured tonight?

HA!

No faith that it can get done in the next couple of hours?