The TJ Warren Thread!

[sunsbg]

This precisely. If I got back in that gym and worked on it, I could get around to shooting about 40% from 25 (when open) within a few days or a week. Not great, but not that hard, either. You ask me to do what Warren does at anything approaching a respectable percentage, and I don't think I could ever get there. It's just not in me. Some people have that talent. The degree to which Warren has it is mind-boggling.

Nobody is denying the talent of Warren in this regard, but in the end most important is what really works, when the defense is working hart to stop you and usually it's the simple open shots after a screen, etc.

You see it's funny, I actually think that TJ is perfect for the playoffs. As has been said, he hits "tough buckets." I mentioned his developing post game (developing only in the sense of usage, because he certainly appears to me be great at it). He gets a ton of points in the half court coming off screens and by cutting. He's also started to nail the corner 3.

We simply disagree here. I think TJ's going to thrive in a playoff environment. The variety of moves and shots that he exhibits is hard to game plan for.

So, let's hope we find out soon is it true by watching some playoff basketball involving the Suns.

[Saberestar]

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[Saberestar]

EJ and TJ get together to talk nicknames, TJ's career-year and how "Rush Hour" is always able to find the basket.

http://www.nba.com/suns/video/2018/ej-tj#gref

[MathiasPW]

EJ and TJ get together to talk nicknames, TJ's career-year and how "Rush Hour" is always able to find the basket.

http://www.nba.com/suns/video/2018/ej-tj#gref

Pffft, they completely ignored his RIP GIRLFRIEND nickname

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[PackSuns]

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So overrated.

[DaleyBlind]

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So overrated.

Yes, thats actually a great example of how overrated he is. Putting him in that group of players by cherry picking a stupid stat like FG% and an arbitrary number is embarrassingly funny

[PackSuns]

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So overrated.

Yes, thats actually a great example of how overrated he is. Putting him in that group of players by cherry picking a stupid stat like FG% and an arbitrary number is embarrassingly funny

Stats are overrated

[bwgood77]

So overrated.

Yes, thats actually a great example of how overrated he is. Putting him in that group of players by cherry picking a stupid stat like FG% and an arbitrary number is embarrassingly funny

Stats are overrated

Even if you take eFG% Warren leads Booker, for example, or TS%, he is narrowly behind. He actually seems underrated across the forums. He has his limitations, but is elite at what he does.

[jcsunsfan]

Yes, thats actually a great example of how overrated he is. Putting him in that group of players by cherry picking a stupid stat like FG% and an arbitrary number is embarrassingly funny

Stats are overrated

Even if you take eFG% Warren leads Booker, for example, or TS%, he is narrowly behind. He actually seems underrated across the forums. He has his limitations, but is elite at what he does.

Yep. He is underrated. BTW. FG% is one of the most important stats of all of them. The combination of high scoring and high efficiency is REALLY important and should be one of the main things you look at when evaluating a player. Calling it embarrassing is mind-boggling.

[bwgood77]

Stats are overrated

Even if you take eFG% Warren leads Booker, for example, or TS%, he is narrowly behind. He actually seems underrated across the forums. He has his limitations, but is elite at what he does.

Yep. He is underrated. BTW. FG% is one of the most important stats of all of them. The combination of high scoring and high efficiency is REALLY important and should be one of the main things you look at when evaluating a player. Calling it embarrassing is mind-boggling.

Well FG% is important, or used to be more important by itself, so TS% is probably the best gauge when you want to have their 3pt % worked in (because it's not fair if their overall fg% drops simply because they shoot more 3s), and TS% also works in your ability to get to the line, and your FT%, which is important...if you are so good at getting to the rim that you get fouled and get to the line, that's good.

eFG% works in 3s but not free throws, so Warren leading Booker there, despite being such a horrid 3 pt shooter is impressive. Booker slightly leads in TS% because of his ability to get to the line and shoot well from there.

Most of b-ref's advanced stats are a bit outdated, so TS% is the most useful one there I believe to show how efficient someone is on offense.

If TJ ever becomes respectable from 3, watch out. I mean when you see guys like Brook Lopez doing it now, there is no reason TJ can't. It seems more mental than anything. Even Frye never shot them in college or his first 4 years in the league.

[lilfishi22]

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So overrated.

Yes, thats actually a great example of how overrated he is. Putting him in that group of players by cherry picking a stupid stat like FG% and an arbitrary number is embarrassingly funny

Exactly, for a good while TJ was shooting just under 50% and after a couple of good shooting games where lifted his FG% above .500, this tweet gets posted. At the same time all of these players do more than just score, comfortably average over 20ppg and are actually elite in more than just one area of the game. No one is saying he's a bad player or that he's overpaid but the cherrypicking of stats is a bit much. Think about it, if the criteria was a more rounded number, like 20 (instead of 19??), this tweet wouldn't exist.

[bwgood77]

Exactly, for a good while TJ was shooting just under 50% and after a couple of good shooting games where lifted his FG% above .500, this tweet gets posted. At the same time all of these players do more than just score, comfortably average over 20ppg and are actually elite in more than just one area of the game. No one is saying he's a bad player or that he's overpaid but the cherrypicking of stats is a bit much. Think about it, if the criteria was a more rounded number, like 20 (instead of 19??), this tweet wouldn't exist.

Those lists are stupid, where they put these guys on pedestals with other greats, be it him, Jackson, Chriss, Booker or whoever, based on random samples at specific times.

But Warren has a pretty strong TS% despite being horrid from 3 and not getting to the line a ton, though he did get there a bit last night.

I don't think anyone is fooled that he is as good as those other guys on the list, just as they don't with the Jackson, Chriss and Booker lists.

[DaleyBlind]

FG% these days is a dumb stat. Period. It favours guys who dont shoot the 3.

[suns91fan]

FG% these days is a dumb stat. Period. It favours guys who dont shoot the 3.

It's a great stat... In a world where 2 equals 3 and free throws don't exist.

[kennydorglas]

Exactly, for a good while TJ was shooting just under 50% and after a couple of good shooting games where lifted his FG% above .500, this tweet gets posted. At the same time all of these players do more than just score, comfortably average over 20ppg and are actually elite in more than just one area of the game. No one is saying he's a bad player or that he's overpaid but the cherrypicking of stats is a bit much. Think about it, if the criteria was a more rounded number, like 20 (instead of 19??), this tweet wouldn't exist.

Those lists are stupid, where they put these guys on pedestals with other greats, be it him, Jackson, Chriss, Booker or whoever, based on random samples at specific times.

But Warren has a pretty strong TS% despite being horrid from 3 and not getting to the line a ton, though he did get there a bit last night.

I don't think anyone is fooled that he is as good as those other guys on the list, just as they don't with the Jackson, Chriss and Booker lists.

He just has an elite trait that very few people has in the NBA.
Smart cutters like him or Gary Harris are very hard to find.

and that's why i'm super high on troy brown...

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[bigfoot]

EJ and TJ get together to talk nicknames, TJ's career-year and how "Rush Hour" is always able to find the basket.

http://www.nba.com/suns/video/2018/ej-tj#gref

Pffft, they completely ignored his RIP GIRLFRIEND nickname

I wonder if that story ever made it into the Suns locker room? I can see all the guys giving TJ hell for that one!

Edit: Maybe we could tweet Lindsey Smith to see if she can get the RIP Girlfriend story out of TJ.
Second Edit: I just re-read that RIP Girlfriend post and have tears running down my checks

[ATTL]

So guys, I was able to meet a guy who used to be very close to the Suns. I can´t mention any names, but he used to work for a local newspaper and had access to TJ´s medical info. He was going to publish it but got pressured by the Suns to drop it. He wanted to stand by his journalist promise, and that led him to get fired for it. He now works in Cali.

Here is the full story on TJ:

THE R.I.P GIRLFRIEND thing is true. We probably have an insider among us trying to leak us stuff. During offseason TJ put in a LOT of work and early season it was paying off. He was getting a lot of praise within the Suns org, specially with Booker and Bledsoe struggling early. People started talking about making him the face of the franchise, he started getting invited to parties with management, being introduced to sponsors, that kind of stuff.

But TJ is all about basketball. He talked to his mentor, also a basketball player (no names, sorry), and decided to drop all that marketing/ego crap. As a way to keep his mind focused, he decided to tattoo "R.I.P GIRLFRIEND", a catchphrase he created in college to keep him focused on basketball.
And because he really meant it, he picked a very particular, intimate place to make that tattoo. A place that would pretty much kill any chances he´d ever have of having a long-term, dependable relationship. I mean, imagine you´re a girl and first time you take TJ to bed for foreplay, you get a huge, nasty R.I.P. GIRLFRIEND tattoo towering over your face....

So here is where problems started. R.I.P GIRLFRIEND is a pretty long sentence to tattoo on your precious parts. TJ didn´t pick the most professional tattoo artist in town, and he ran out of pipe before the letter D could be inked. A critical decision had to be made: Tattoo the D on the head of his D. TJ really meant to have this done (he IS all about basketball), so he told the guy to do it. Reports show this was a tough task. Because of the pain, TJ had problems maintaining his power. Several professional adult movie actresses were called in to help. But the end result was unescapable: the tattoo artist hurt his HEAD!

TJ had to be taken to the hospital with severe bleeding. Because of the surgery, TJ had to be put on hormone suplements who have twitched his voice. He barely talks. There are reports that he lost parts of his manhood and walks around the halls of the arena crying. They removed some tissue from his arms to reconstruct his intimate parts, which is why he seems to be puling a string on so many shots he used to convert at such a high rate. The extra hormones have reduced his agressiveness completely.

The Suns are giving him full support on whatever comes up next.

I´ll keep you posted.

Big if true