Nets - In Season Moves & Possible Trade Ideas

Paradise · Post #1501 » by **Paradise** » Fri Feb 2, 2018 5:00 am

Random question: Would you guys accept Klay Thompson/Iggy in a straightaway dump.......if it means clearing cap for LeBron to sign with Golden State?

shakendfries · Post #1502 » by **shakendfries** » Fri Feb 2, 2018 5:24 am

Paradise wrote:Random question: Would you guys accept Klay Thompson/Iggy in a straightaway dump.......if it means clearing cap for LeBron to sign with Golden State?

Yes. I'd even give him the supermax if I could if I'm Marks.

DeRoma · Post #1503 » by **DeRoma** » Fri Feb 2, 2018 5:50 am

Paradise wrote:Random question: Would you guys accept Klay Thompson/Iggy in a straightaway dump.......if it means clearing cap for LeBron to sign with Golden State?

ez yes

DeRoma · Post #1504 » by **DeRoma** » Fri Feb 2, 2018 6:00 am

MHZ wrote:
shakendfries wrote:
MHZ wrote:
I've long thought there are deals that make sense between Denver and Brooklyn. Would be on board for a swap involving RHJ and Juancho, Faried+sweetener/Carroll swap (depending on sweetener), etc.

The vibe I get is that y'all don't view Dinwiddie as particularly on the table - is that right? How do you guys assess his situation? Not on the table and viewed as a long-term piece, on the table for the right price only, being shopped at a fairly high point of his value, etc?

Thanks guys - cheers!

Dinwiddie, Russell, LeVert, RHJ, & Allen are likely off the table for the assets Denver has to offer.

No to Faried, Juancho, or even Will

Not even Nuggets related - I'm interested in how available you think he is, and what you'd guess they'd need to get back to move him?

I would trade Dinwiddie for an early teen pick. I would also trade RHJ for an early teen pick but a lot of people on this board value both players a lot higher than I see them. I do think you can get a great return for both players. The tricky part is the fact that both players aren't slowing down in their progress this year. They keep inching and inching every week and shows so much promise. This is why it's really hard to define their true value. You also have to consider both players are due for big money in the near future.

School_Kid · Post #1505 » by **School_Kid** » Fri Feb 2, 2018 9:42 am

DeRoma wrote:
MHZ wrote:
shakendfries wrote:
Dinwiddie, Russell, LeVert, RHJ, & Allen are likely off the table for the assets Denver has to offer.

No to Faried, Juancho, or even Will

Not even Nuggets related - I'm interested in how available you think he is, and what you'd guess they'd need to get back to move him?

I would trade Dinwiddie for an early teen pick. I would also trade RHJ for an early teen pick but a lot of people on this board value both players a lot higher than I see them. I do think you can get a great return for both players. The tricky part is the fact that both players aren't slowing down in their progress this year. They keep inching and inching every week and shows so much promise. This is why it's really hard to define their true value. You also have to consider both players are due for big money in the near future.

I think Dinwiddie would be a great fit in Denver. Juancho and their pick plus Arthur maybe would be nice.

MrDollarBills · Post #1506 » by **MrDollarBills** » Fri Feb 2, 2018 2:15 pm

Paradise wrote:Random question: Would you guys accept Klay Thompson/Iggy in a straightaway dump.......if it means clearing cap for LeBron to sign with Golden State?

Yes I would do it in a heartbeat. I take Russell and Allen off of the table and they'd only be able to get either one of Dinwiddie or LeVert but not both. if they require both then i need a future 1st rd pick unprotected.

See? Now this is a trade where I have no problems with trading some of our young guys. Give me quality people, not trading RHJ or Dinwiddie for picks in the teens that may end up netting players that might not even be better than the guys we're shipping out. After the top 10 the draft is a crap shoot. We have three starting quality guys (LeVert, Allen, RHJ) with picks that were all outside of the teens, I don't understand the obsession with trading for non top 10 lotto picks.

re: helping Golden State to bring in LBJ, Hell, I think we need to extend that olive branch to them now :lol:

yall want Lebron? we'll help. Klay Thompson in this system would be ungodly

But I'm not sure how we can do that anyway? we have too much salary that doesn't expire until next summer.

steady · Post #1507 » by **steady** » Fri Feb 2, 2018 2:33 pm

Marks talking to beat writers about how he’s approaching trades — with creativity, patience and curiosity

“There’s also continuity. There’s developing a culture, there’s systems. How aggressive are you going to be in free agency this year, next year, three years from now? There’s so many [variables]. We’ve got to have the long view here,” he noted.

“Anybody that comes here, let’s put our arm around them and see how we can help their game, put them in a place to succeed. That pays off. That’s where you get guys going ‘Hey, I appreciate what they did for us.’” Marks argued.

“Whether that means they’re going to greener pastures elsewhere, great. But my hope would be when anybody leaves … they speak highly of however they were treated. That’s all I can hope for.”

MrDollarBills · Post #1508 » by **MrDollarBills** » Fri Feb 2, 2018 2:50 pm

steady wrote:Marks talking to beat writers about how he’s approaching trades — with creativity, patience and curiosity

“There’s also continuity. There’s developing a culture, there’s systems. How aggressive are you going to be in free agency this year, next year, three years from now? There’s so many [variables]. We’ve got to have the long view here,” he noted.

“Anybody that comes here, let’s put our arm around them and see how we can help their game, put them in a place to succeed. That pays off. That’s where you get guys going ‘Hey, I appreciate what they did for us.’” Marks argued.

“Whether that means they’re going to greener pastures elsewhere, great. But my hope would be when anybody leaves … they speak highly of however they were treated. That’s all I can hope for.”

This means a lot. When Booker got interviewed before our game he did not sound bitter in the slightest and said that he still keeps in touch with people on the team.

Sean Marks gets it. It's a business yes, and guys will be moved, released, but you can tell that the Nets work with these guys and treat them fairly and not like garbage. This is why guys are in there busting their tails every game or in the practice facility til all hours or the night.

MGrand15 · Post #1509 » by **MGrand15** » Fri Feb 2, 2018 2:56 pm

Tough to find a good trade destination for Carroll. Messed around on the trade machine for a little bit. Best I could do was Leuer and Stanley Johnson for Carroll. Carroll expires 1 year sooner than Leuer so they save some money + get a guy that can help their playoff run now.

I read that Miami is interested. I could see a trade revolving around Carroll and Justice Winslow but Miami doesn't have many big contracts theyre willing to ship out I think. Olynyk, Waiters, and James Johnson seem to be key guys for them.

Paradise · Post #1510 » by **Paradise** » Fri Feb 2, 2018 3:15 pm

Joe Harris’ agent has said the team isn’t looking to deal him.

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Kilo · Post #1511 » by **Kilo** » Fri Feb 2, 2018 3:26 pm

Do you own Harris Full Bird Rights or just Early Bird Rights? Doesn't matter to your team, but for trade purposes for the acquiring team.

I see his agent says Brooklyn isn't looking to deal him, but would Henry Ellenson for him straight up have any appeal. Ellenson is buried on the bench in Detroit, but is a 2016 18th overall first rounder.

IceManBK1 · Post #1512 » by **IceManBK1** » Fri Feb 2, 2018 3:29 pm

Magic exploring trading gordon...we need to make it an offer.

TheBrooklynKidd · Post #1513 » by **TheBrooklynKidd** » Fri Feb 2, 2018 3:53 pm

Kilo wrote:Do you own Harris Full Bird Rights or just Early Bird Rights? Doesn't matter to your team, but for trade purposes for the acquiring team.

I see his agent says Brooklyn isn't looking to deal him, but would Henry Ellenson for him straight up have any appeal. Ellenson is buried on the bench in Detroit, but is a 2016 18th overall first rounder.

Nope, not at all. Ellenson hasn’t done anything to prove he’s a rotation player in the NBA.

TheBrooklynKidd · Post #1514 » by **TheBrooklynKidd** » Fri Feb 2, 2018 3:55 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:Magic exploring trading gordon...we need to make it an offer.

I don’t think that makes sense for us. Their asking price is probably super high and he’s gonna demand a max contract this summer.

TheNetsFan · Post #1515 » by **TheNetsFan** » Fri Feb 2, 2018 4:01 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:Magic exploring trading gordon...we need to make it an offer.

I don’t think that makes sense for us. Their asking price is probably super high and he’s gonna demand a max contract this summer.

For the right price, you make the deal. However, the price is likely too steep. I'd call up the Clippers and see if they'd be at all interested in moving Harris. He's a local kid, just as good (if not better) than Gordon & he has a very reasonable salary next year.

Rockice_24 · Post #1516 » by **Rockice_24** » Fri Feb 2, 2018 4:04 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:Magic exploring trading gordon...we need to make it an offer.

I don’t think that makes sense for us. Their asking price is probably super high and he’s gonna demand a max contract this summer.

Well we really won't be FA players next season and after that D-Lo is up too so unless we plan on clear space and letting D-Lo walk I don't think it has a major impact on our cap.

I'd offer up Din, RHJ and a 2nd or RHJ and the TOR pick for him. Not sure what else we could offer. Not sure I'd offer both RHJ and Levert.

A Gordon/Allen frontcourt is really nice. Plus with our development squad and Gordon's ability to shoot he could likely be a mid to high 30's from 3 along with solid defense and great rebounding.

Future lineup would be
PG: D-Lo
SG: ?
SF: Levert
PF: Gordon
C: Allen

You get a great shooter to slide in and you have a nice roster to build around.

TheBrooklynKidd · Post #1517 » by **TheBrooklynKidd** » Fri Feb 2, 2018 4:06 pm

Rockice_24 wrote:
TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:Magic exploring trading gordon...we need to make it an offer.

I don’t think that makes sense for us. Their asking price is probably super high and he’s gonna demand a max contract this summer.

Well we really won't be FA players next season and after that D-Lo is up too so unless we plan on clear space and letting D-Lo walk I don't think it has a major impact on our cap.

I'd offer up Din, RHJ and a 2nd or RHJ and the TOR pick for him. Not sure what else we could offer. Not sure I'd offer both RHJ and Levert.

A Gordon/Allen frontcourt is really nice. Plus with our development squad and Gordon's ability to shoot he could likely be a mid to high 30's from 3 along with solid defense and great rebounding.

Future lineup would be
PG: D-Lo
SG: ?
SF: Levert
PF: Gordon
C: Allen

You get a great shooter to slide in and you have a nice roster to build around.

We actually will have more than a max deal to offer in 2019 before we sign Din/DLo/RHJ to big deals.

That’s way too much to offer IMO. I would do maybe one of Dinwiddie/RHJ but I think the chances of Orlando accepting a deal like that are small.

TheBrooklynKidd · Post #1518 » by **TheBrooklynKidd** » Fri Feb 2, 2018 4:08 pm

TheNetsFan wrote:
TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:Magic exploring trading gordon...we need to make it an offer.

I don’t think that makes sense for us. Their asking price is probably super high and he’s gonna demand a max contract this summer.

For the right price, you make the deal. However, the price is likely too steep. I'd call up the Clippers and see if they'd be at all interested in moving Harris. He's a local kid, just as good (if not better) than Gordon & he has a very reasonable salary next year.

I don’t think he’s better than Gordon but Harris definitely has a smaller price tag. I’d do a reasonable deal for Gordon but I don’t see one materializing unless Orlando’s new management really doesn’t want to add anymore salary to their books next season.

Rockice_24 · Post #1519 » by **Rockice_24** » Fri Feb 2, 2018 4:10 pm

Might not be as steep as you think. Most team aren't giving up great assets for a RFA they likely have to max out.

Rockice_24 · Post #1520 » by **Rockice_24** » Fri Feb 2, 2018 4:12 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
Rockice_24 wrote:
TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
I don’t think that makes sense for us. Their asking price is probably super high and he’s gonna demand a max contract this summer.

Well we really won't be FA players next season and after that D-Lo is up too so unless we plan on clear space and letting D-Lo walk I don't think it has a major impact on our cap.

I'd offer up Din, RHJ and a 2nd or RHJ and the TOR pick for him. Not sure what else we could offer. Not sure I'd offer both RHJ and Levert.

A Gordon/Allen frontcourt is really nice. Plus with our development squad and Gordon's ability to shoot he could likely be a mid to high 30's from 3 along with solid defense and great rebounding.

Future lineup would be
PG: D-Lo
SG: ?
SF: Levert
PF: Gordon
C: Allen

You get a great shooter to slide in and you have a nice roster to build around.

We actually will have more than a max deal to offer in 2019 before we sign Din/DLo/RHJ to big deals.

That’s way too much to offer IMO. I would do maybe one of Dinwiddie/RHJ but I think the chances of Orlando accepting a deal like that are small.

Not so much we won't have money but that we aren't signing a max FA was my point. We aren't landing an LBJ or Paul George etc so what does max money matter other then taking on more salary dumps for assets for teams in need of relief.