BobbieL wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:JDLAW wrote:
I am not disappointed at all. I have no doubt whatsoever that McD shopped Monroe extensively and examined all the options he had. My guess is that there was nothing appetizing out there for the Suns. There were possibly teams that would give something in terms of players, but they would have been over the hill and with putrid contracts (e.g. Deng) and another marginal asset. For most teams, a trade would have to send $18M (less 25%) back and many would want at least dollar-for-dollar or better match so as to avoid tax implications. There just aren't that many teams out there that can make a trade involving an $18M contract, even if it is expiring. The Suns don't have the roster space to take multiple players back and they don't need a terrible contract back. Further, while the Suns might have considered taking back a longer deal, they likely would not have any more than an additional year, which would have put them in the same position they would have been with Bledsoe.
As for the early buy-out, the truth of it is that it gives Monroe a chance to catch on with another team early while the team has assets and roster positions. I have no idea what the buy-out number is, but the lower the better. Keep in mind what remains is only about $6M and that would be the upper limit. Even if the buyout it is only the vet min, the Suns would get an additional $1+ on their present cap space. By the way the explanation by poster from one of the other board's explanation is confusing and somewhat misleading.
All the wild trade speculation on a Monroe trade is just that. A trade didn't happen because of the dynamics of the marketing the potential teams/players that could be involved. It was not because the Suns did not try or McD was "lazy." I know it has been a long season so far and everyone is frustrated and disappointed; perhaps a little anger management is in order.
Great post
I agree - great post
And yes, the Suns could have traded for Deng, Hill, Noah, Asik - but who wants those crappy deals!
I will take cap space - and no second round pick and no horrible contract through 2020
I agree - great post
And yes, the Suns could have traded for Deng, Hill, Noah, Asik - but who wants those crappy deals!
I will take cap space - and no second round pick and no horrible contract through 2020[/quote]
I agree - great post. Whenever I read about McD didn't try hard enough when it comes to what he can get for our players, I laugh, because he's the type to exhaust every effort and hold out as long as possible, sometimes perhaps to his detriment. But when he is trading a player, he is likely getting the best value out there...even the IT one (no one wanted to sign him that offseason for more than we did...the Celtics and Stevens just maximized his talent....but Dudley, Gortat, Scola, Kieff, Dragic (some think his value somehow would have been higher than two firsts if done earlier...I doubt that).
Obviously he took his time with Bledsoe, and probably should have traded him in the summer but when he finally forced our hand because we didn't want to agree to a max extension (smart), then McD tried hard for the best offer and finally settled....I thought perhaps he should hold out longer, but we could have lost out on getting the cap space and a first.
Now I do think his one boneheaded move was miscalculating on Knight and trading that coveted Lakers pick, which was awful. His pick have been hit or miss, but he made a couple of good ones, Len didn't turn out well and of course Gobert, Adams, the Greek would have been better, but a lot of teams misjudged those guys. Len was at the top of the draft. Bender/Chriss/Jackson really remain to be seen.
If I had complaints outside of the Knight trade, it would be some later picks, particularly the Ennis one over Harris and Hood who had both slipped. And the coaching hires...and somewhat of a lack of continuity until the last couple of years. Then perhaps communication could have been better among players and in the media, but this is easy to not know without the details of all the inner dynamics. We should be further along but we can add another good pick and hire a coach. Starting over again with a new GM I am not sure is the right move...yet, because it just provides more front office instability which we've had under Sarver with GMs.
He did a reasonably good job as far as I can tell in the LMA pursuit, and likely had no chance without Chandler, who's contract isn't the best, but I haven't minded having him around.
I can't say I'm a total fan, but I think getting value for players has been probably his brightest spot. Watching the team a few games ago I almost went on a total rant against McD and how he's done, but I'd like to see what he does this offseason with the coaching hire, the picks and in free agency. I don't think all of the FA stuff is as easy as people seem to make it out to be at times.
