The ROTY/Rookie Discussion Thread, Part III

Asian Celtic · Post #641 » by **Asian Celtic** » Sat Feb 3, 2018 4:17 am

Mitchell, Markkanen, Tatum, Kuzma, Simmons.

My list for first team all rookies.

Post #642 » by **CoreyGallagher** » Sat Feb 3, 2018 4:17 am

markjay wrote:
CoreyGallagher wrote:It's funny Simmons had 20 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals, and a block (0 turnovers) and probably had the third best rookie game tonight.

Or possible even fourth.

Josh Hart had 15 points on 8 shots (.768 ts%), 14 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal, 0 turnovers, and two key plays down the stretch to help seal the 3-point Laker win

That is also a good game.

WaveTheWheat80 · Post #643 » by **WaveTheWheat80** » Sat Feb 3, 2018 4:20 am

Asian Celtic wrote:Mitchell, Markkanen, Tatum, Kuzma, Simmons.

My list for first team all rookies.

That team would make the playoffs this year. (If they had a bench) It's a bit light on the defense and size down low though.

KqWIN · Post #644 » by **KqWIN** » Sat Feb 3, 2018 4:22 am

The jumper is back!

Watch on YouTube

Rauxcee · Post #645 » by **Rauxcee** » Sat Feb 3, 2018 4:25 am

KqWIN wrote:The jumper is back!

Watch on YouTube

This was probably Mitchell's best game of his career so far. So impressive what he did tonight.

Asian Celtic · Post #646 » by **Asian Celtic** » Sat Feb 3, 2018 4:26 am

WaveTheWheat80 wrote:
Asian Celtic wrote:Mitchell, Markkanen, Tatum, Kuzma, Simmons.

My list for first team all rookies.

That team would make the playoffs this year. (If they had a bench) It's a bit light on the defense and size down low though.

in the East. Not sure in the West though.

WaveTheWheat80 · Post #647 » by **WaveTheWheat80** » Sat Feb 3, 2018 4:28 am

Asian Celtic wrote:
WaveTheWheat80 wrote:
Asian Celtic wrote:Mitchell, Markkanen, Tatum, Kuzma, Simmons.

My list for first team all rookies.

That team would make the playoffs this year. (If they had a bench) It's a bit light on the defense and size down low though.

in the East. Not sure in the West though.

Yea, in the East. Not the West.

Tron Carter · Post #648 » by **Tron Carter** » Sat Feb 3, 2018 5:41 am

It’s Mitchell

thamadkant · Post #649 » by **thamadkant** » Sat Feb 3, 2018 5:46 am

Mitchell is my ROTY... future Star... if not just below that level currently.

SeattleJazzFan · Post #650 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Sat Feb 3, 2018 5:48 am

love what i've learned about Mitchell reading this thread tonight. He's the same size as Kemba and he can't pass/facilitate/lacks vision. lololololol.

love it when folks comment on players, but don't actually watch them play.

first, Mitchell's measurements are a lot more Dwyane Wade or Russ than Kemba freaking Walker - seriously hilarious.

second, Mitchell's vision and passing might be his best attribute as a rookie - outside of maybe his overall ability to score. guys who don't actually watch him play look at the assist numbers and assume he can't pass or can't see the floor. as i said, he's actually very adept in that area. Rubio does most of the ball handling and the jazz offense isn't one where guys go for a lot of assists. Mitchell can flat out pass. He's damn good now, but his career will take off when the ball is in his hands full time.

thamadkant · Post #651 » by **thamadkant** » Sat Feb 3, 2018 5:49 am

draftnightsuit wrote:
Revived wrote:Anunoby on the poll but no Jackson?

Watch on YouTube

He’s been absolutely horrible all year.

he's having a good january actually which is ALL year technically.

something like 3 or 4 20+ point games, good defense and his FG% improving... he did have that 0-13 shocker.

QPR · Post #652 » by **QPR** » Sat Feb 3, 2018 5:52 am

Simmons 20/6/5 with no turnovers. Amazing how this isn't even a remarkable line for him.

nurseryc · Post #653 » by **nurseryc** » Sat Feb 3, 2018 5:52 am

SeattleJazzFan wrote:love what i've learned about Mitchell reading this thread tonight. He's the same size as Kemba and he can't pass/facilitate/lacks vision. lololololol.

love it when folks comment on players, but don't actually watch them play.

first, Mitchell's measurements are a lot more Dwyane Wade than Kemba freaking Walker - seriously hilarious.

second, Mitchell's vision and passing might be his best attribute as a rookie - outside of maybe his overall ability to score. guys who don't actually watch him play look at the assist numbers and assume he can't pass or can't see the floor. as i said, he's actually very adept in that area. Rubio does most of the ball handling and the jazz offense isn't one where guys go for a lot of assists. Mitchell can flat out pass. He's damn good now, but his career will take off when the ball is in his hands full time.

Mitchell is a good scorer. The other parts of his game should come in time. He put up a big scoring game today against the Suns

SeattleJazzFan · Post #654 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Sat Feb 3, 2018 5:56 am

nurseryc wrote:
SeattleJazzFan wrote:love what i've learned about Mitchell reading this thread tonight. He's the same size as Kemba and he can't pass/facilitate/lacks vision. lololololol.

love it when folks comment on players, but don't actually watch them play.

first, Mitchell's measurements are a lot more Dwyane Wade than Kemba freaking Walker - seriously hilarious.

second, Mitchell's vision and passing might be his best attribute as a rookie - outside of maybe his overall ability to score. guys who don't actually watch him play look at the assist numbers and assume he can't pass or can't see the floor. as i said, he's actually very adept in that area. Rubio does most of the ball handling and the jazz offense isn't one where guys go for a lot of assists. Mitchell can flat out pass. He's damn good now, but his career will take off when the ball is in his hands full time.

Mitchell is a good scorer. The other parts of his game should come in time. He put up a big scoring game today against the Suns

very good scorer, very good passer, solid defender for a rookie. he cares about defense, that will get much better. he's a complete player. for anybody to compare him to Kemba is laughable. plus with his length and strength, he can defend multiple positions.

SeattleJazzFan · Post #655 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Sat Feb 3, 2018 6:01 am

good to see Josh Jackson playing well. really like his game when he's playing like he's capable.

WaveTheWheat80 · Post #656 » by **WaveTheWheat80** » Sat Feb 3, 2018 6:08 am

MJ, Griffin, Iverson, Mitchell. The only rookies since 1980 to score 40 multiple times.

dautjazz · Post #657 » by **dautjazz** » Sat Feb 3, 2018 6:13 am

WaveTheWheat80 wrote:MJ, Griffin, Iverson, Mitchell. The only rookies since 1980 to score 40 multiple times.

I was just about to post this. You saw it on the Jazz reddit too? The side pic is HILARIOUS right now, check it out..

https://www.reddit.com/r/UtahJazz/

WaveTheWheat80 · Post #658 » by **WaveTheWheat80** » Sat Feb 3, 2018 6:30 am

dautjazz wrote:
WaveTheWheat80 wrote:MJ, Griffin, Iverson, Mitchell. The only rookies since 1980 to score 40 multiple times.

I was just about to post this. You saw it on the Jazz reddit too? The side pic is HILARIOUS right now, check it out..

https://www.reddit.com/r/UtahJazz/

I saw it on r/nba actually. That sidebar on the r/utahjazz is **** hilarious though. LMAO.

PLO · Post #659 » by **PLO** » Sat Feb 3, 2018 6:45 am

Whatever else can be said this is a GREAT ROTY race, hats off to all rookies who've made it so.

Cappy_Smurf · Post #660 » by **Cappy_Smurf** » Sat Feb 3, 2018 6:51 am

WaveTheWheat80 wrote:MJ, Griffin, Iverson, Mitchell. The only rookies since 1980 to score 40 multiple times.

Pretty sure Griffin only had two 40+ games, so it will be interesting if Donovan gets another one.

I'm wondering how many 40+ games Iverson and Mj had.

Anyway, Mitchell is in some really elite company with his rookie season. Hopefully we're done hearing the complaints of why he is still considered a possibile ROTY by the "Simmons is a lock" crowd.

Who wins? (May select 2 options.)