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Post#61 » by blind prophet » Fri Feb 2, 2018 2:30 am

City of Trees wrote:If LeBron is leaving I'm not trading the Brooklyn pick for Jordan because he has a player option for next season. At 29 years old Jordan would be wise to opt out and get a long term deal.

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Guess that's why Cleveland is having so much trouble making a move.
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Post#62 » by codydaze » Fri Feb 2, 2018 5:21 pm

City of Trees wrote:If LeBron is leaving I'm not trading the Brooklyn pick for Jordan because he has a player option for next season. At 29 years old Jordan would be wise to opt out and get a long term deal.

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All these leaks feel like it's Lebron putting pressure on them to make a move with the threat of leaving. The flipside of that is he probably will leave if things don't get better out in Cleveland which makes the decision to move that BKN pick even more difficult for them. Do they move it to try and get some better talent to help Lebron? What if that doesn't work out though and he still leaves. I would definitely not wanna be in Koby Altman's place right now.
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Post#63 » by Sacramento_King » Fri Feb 2, 2018 5:49 pm

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City of Trees wrote:If LeBron is leaving I'm not trading the Brooklyn pick for Jordan because he has a player option for next season. At 29 years old Jordan would be wise to opt out and get a long term deal.

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All these leaks feel like it's Lebron putting pressure on them to make a move with the threat of leaving. The flipside of that is he probably will leave if things don't get better out in Cleveland which makes the decision to move that BKN pick even more difficult for them. Do they move it to try and get some better talent to help Lebron? What if that doesn't work out though and he still leaves. I would definitely not wanna be in Koby Altman's place right now.


I think the mindset has to be that Lebron is leaving thus keeping the pick. I think the more difficult part for them will be adding players who can help this year but still be viable players if they have multiple years left on contract. Just a terrible spot to be in if you are Cleveland.
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Post#64 » by 916fan » Fri Feb 2, 2018 7:09 pm

Apparently Orlando is trying to see what offers they'll get for Aaron Gordon. Seems like a deal the Kings should jump at
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Post#65 » by codydaze » Fri Feb 2, 2018 7:17 pm

916fan wrote:Apparently Orlando is trying to see what offers they'll get for Aaron Gordon. Seems like a deal the Kings should jump at


I would be down, but we'd probably have to pay a pretty steep price. Can we trade our pick this year since we don't have the '19? I don't believe we can and that would probably kill any package we could send out. Would have to start with WCS/1st round pick I imagine.
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Post#66 » by 916fan » Fri Feb 2, 2018 7:36 pm

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916fan wrote:Apparently Orlando is trying to see what offers they'll get for Aaron Gordon. Seems like a deal the Kings should jump at


I would be down, but we'd probably have to pay a pretty steep price. Can we trade our pick this year since we don't have the '19? I don't believe we can and that would probably kill any package we could send out. Would have to start with WCS/1st round pick I imagine.

You're right. We'd need to acquire another 1st round pick if we wanted to trade our own for this year. I think the pick would be enough for Gordon.
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Post#67 » by Castor_Troy » Fri Feb 2, 2018 8:02 pm

Meh, assuming we stay in the top 5, I'd rather have the pick than Gordon
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Post#68 » by SacKingZZZ » Fri Feb 2, 2018 8:03 pm

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916fan wrote:Apparently Orlando is trying to see what offers they'll get for Aaron Gordon. Seems like a deal the Kings should jump at


I would be down, but we'd probably have to pay a pretty steep price. Can we trade our pick this year since we don't have the '19? I don't believe we can and that would probably kill any package we could send out. Would have to start with WCS/1st round pick I imagine.


Definitely iffy with his FA looming but coming off a rookie deal he'll take the $$$. I'd go with some sort of package of Skal, Papa, Malachi, and whatever young players there are outside of Bogdan, Buddy, and Fox to get a deal moving.

This is another reason why I think sitting on the young players and not letting them produce to their capabilities comes back to bite the Kings in the end. They should have been building value in the young guys to make an attractive trade package from the day it was clear the team wasn't going anywhere.
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Post#69 » by kingjawn100 » Fri Feb 2, 2018 10:05 pm

I don't really believe Orlando is shopping AG unless he's told them there's no way in hell he ever re-sign there. The guy averages 18 & 8 and is great defensively. The Kings don't really have the pieces to get it done but id take him in a heartbeat for Willie or Bogi or our pick if it fell outside the top 3 (which of course we can't do not having a first rounder in '19)
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Post#70 » by SacKingZZZ » Sat Feb 3, 2018 12:16 am

kingjawn100 wrote:I don't really believe Orlando is shopping AG unless he's told them there's no way in hell he ever re-sign there. The guy averages 18 & 8 and is great defensively. The Kings don't really have the pieces to get it done but id take him in a heartbeat for Willie or Bogi or our pick if it fell outside the top 3 (which of course we can't do not having a first rounder in '19)


It's probably just due dilligence. They might be leery of signing him to a max deal and just want to see what teams might be out there that consider him to be worth it. They might be scouting their competition for him this summer.
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Post#71 » by kingjawn100 » Sat Feb 3, 2018 12:46 am

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kingjawn100 wrote:I don't really believe Orlando is shopping AG unless he's told them there's no way in hell he ever re-sign there. The guy averages 18 & 8 and is great defensively. The Kings don't really have the pieces to get it done but id take him in a heartbeat for Willie or Bogi or our pick if it fell outside the top 3 (which of course we can't do not having a first rounder in '19)


It's probably just due dilligence. They might be leery of signing him to a max deal and just want to see what teams might be out there that consider him to be worth it. They might be scouting their competition for him this summer.


Sounds about right. Hearing some of these kings fans on twitter saying they’d give up Skal or malachi at most to get Gordon are so delussional. The list of guys in this league who can give you 18 & 8 + great defense is very slim. I would even consider WCS + Buddy if thats what it took assuming we thought he’s re-sign.
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Post#72 » by sacking123 » Sat Feb 3, 2018 12:53 am

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kalenclayton wrote:Do you really think Koufos is opting out? He isn't getting more than $8million next season. Cap space is pretty sparse for the 2018 offseason and the C market is dry imo. Sure, I think Koufos deserves more than $8million but I just don't think he will get it. He will be better off waiting for 2019 when there is more money out there. Heck, the Kings might be on the up&up at that time. That might mean he could secure more money long term with the Kings.

I think Temple is either traded or he stays and signs a long contract a less $ per year. I don't see him getting a lucrative contract at his age.


Agreed with Koufos, I don't see him opting out. He won't be getting more than that in free agency so he'll definitely opt in.

Honestly, the only vets I think are getting traded this year are Hill and possibly Vince Carter. I really don't see us trading Zbo (this season at least), Temple or Koufos even though that would be the right move.

I won't be surprised if the Kings don't make a single move at the deadline. This team was put together to help develop the young guys. Unless a can't miss deal comes along, I think this team stays together. Just my opinion.


I agree with this absolutely. It has been said all along this team has been put together for a reason. Now obviously the strategy needs to be fluid, however to me the only change needed is Hill gone and that isn't a must do at the moment.
Z-Bo has said he is loving playing with the younger guys and believes this team can make the playoffs next season. It is a lofty goal, but it just shows he is heavily invested into the franchise and the young players. VC is loving his role where he can teach and get the occasional game to show he still has it and Temple just seems like a real pro and a great influence on the young guys.
Next season these three need to be sitting on the pine most of the time and let the young guys do their thing, which I'm confident they will.
All that leaves is getting rid of Hill and Kosta for guys that are professional towel waivers.
I can't see Kosta opting out next season, no way is there a market for him in the current NBA so we will still be in a great position come the off season if we don't make a move, unless it's a no brainer.
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Re: General Trade Rumors 

Post#73 » by City of Trees » Sat Feb 3, 2018 6:28 am

Gordon is going to be a STAR. I would trade anyone on the Kings minus Fox. No joke.

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Post#74 » by 916fan » Sat Feb 3, 2018 5:17 pm

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kingjawn100 wrote:I don't really believe Orlando is shopping AG unless he's told them there's no way in hell he ever re-sign there. The guy averages 18 & 8 and is great defensively. The Kings don't really have the pieces to get it done but id take him in a heartbeat for Willie or Bogi or our pick if it fell outside the top 3 (which of course we can't do not having a first rounder in '19)


It's probably just due dilligence. They might be leery of signing him to a max deal and just want to see what teams might be out there that consider him to be worth it. They might be scouting their competition for him this summer.


Sounds about right. Hearing some of these kings fans on twitter saying they’d give up Skal or malachi at most to get Gordon are so delussional. The list of guys in this league who can give you 18 & 8 + great defense is very slim. I would even consider WCS + Buddy if thats what it took assuming we thought he’s re-sign.

You should look on reddit too. lol some of them said they wouldn't even trade Bogdan for him.
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Post#75 » by City of Trees » Sat Feb 3, 2018 5:39 pm

916fan wrote:
kingjawn100 wrote:
SacKingZZZ wrote:
It's probably just due dilligence. They might be leery of signing him to a max deal and just want to see what teams might be out there that consider him to be worth it. They might be scouting their competition for him this summer.


Sounds about right. Hearing some of these kings fans on twitter saying they’d give up Skal or malachi at most to get Gordon are so delussional. The list of guys in this league who can give you 18 & 8 + great defense is very slim. I would even consider WCS + Buddy if thats what it took assuming we thought he’s re-sign.

You should look on reddit too. lol some of them said they wouldn't even trade Bogdan for him.

That's crazy

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Post#76 » by dozencousins » Sat Feb 3, 2018 7:42 pm

I am told that the real hold up as of know on any kings trade for the most part is in regards to teams be interested in De Andre Jordan , T. Evans & L.Williams . It is most likely that once those 3 are likely traded . A lot of trades not just the Kings will pick up a lot of steam .

I asked my source about A. Gordon . Kings are likely not going to make a play for him . That could change because we could offer Skal , Malachi in a deal and I could see how others here want him as I like him as well but again as of now Kings are not pushing for him and anything could change .

I want to be clear in stating that those 3 above not traded yet does not mean we won't make a trade before any or all are dealt but it i less likely as most teams were in trade talks with have some of the same teams were taking with that have interest in those players as well .

Clevland , Bucks , Denver , Jazz etc.
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Post#77 » by LightTheBeam » Sat Feb 3, 2018 7:52 pm

benchmobbin02 wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:
benchmobbin02 wrote:From searching various nba news sites and other sources I am hearing that NO, MIL, and UTA are looking for big men.
UTA, CLE, IND and MINN are looking for scoring.
SA, OKC, TOR are looking for versatile wing players.

The Kings made it clear they value Skal back when the CLEV rumors were shot down.

What I'm hearing from sources. More to come...

Please stop...


I can share the things I hear and learn from sources in this thread just like anyone else.


I appreciate these takes. Not sure why this was cause for suspension? Upsetting...
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Post#78 » by bleeds_purple » Sat Feb 3, 2018 8:28 pm

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916fan wrote:Apparently Orlando is trying to see what offers they'll get for Aaron Gordon. Seems like a deal the Kings should jump at


I would be down, but we'd probably have to pay a pretty steep price. Can we trade our pick this year since we don't have the '19? I don't believe we can and that would probably kill any package we could send out. Would have to start with WCS/1st round pick I imagine.


Definitely iffy with his FA looming but coming off a rookie deal he'll take the $$$. I'd go with some sort of package of Skal, Papa, Malachi, and whatever young players there are outside of Bogdan, Buddy, and Fox to get a deal moving.

This is another reason why I think sitting on the young players and not letting them produce to their capabilities comes back to bite the Kings in the end. They should have been building value in the young guys to make an attractive trade package from the day it was clear the team wasn't going anywhere.


Some type of a consolidation trade for Gordon would be great right now. I'm offering anyone except Fox, WCS, and Bogdan. Best case scenario we get some type of pick for Hill and combine that with the poo-poo platter of mediocre young guys we have but that's not likely to be enough so I'd look to include Hield at that point.

Definitely wouldn't include our own pick unless its heavily protected.

Ultimately, we don't have the assets to make this move, largely because of the Stauskas trade. But man, if we went into next season with a WCS/Gordon front court with Fox and Bogdan pushing the pace we would have a super exciting team. Fox and Willie's potential is just waiting to be unlocked if we start playing faster. Gordon fits right in with that.

Our best chance to get Gordon, who I've had my eye on for a while, is to hope Orlando doesn't find a trade and then doesn't match a max offer in the off-season.
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Post#79 » by mlloyd10 » Mon Feb 5, 2018 2:11 pm

What are you hearing on the cost of Koufas?

Im guessing you dont want to take on salary
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Post#80 » by kalenclayton » Mon Feb 5, 2018 3:26 pm

mlloyd10 wrote:What are you hearing on the cost of Koufas?

Im guessing you dont want to take on salary

There hasn’t really been any news on him. I’m almost certain the Kings stand pat at the deadline, but let’s discuss him. Koufos is a player who could help just about every team in the league, but only as a 20 minute bench contributor. His game is being aged out mostly and he has a player option that he will almost certainly opt in to. Those two factors make his trade value almost completely neutral. It sucks because he’s actually a positive player, but he isn’t a versatile forward who can guard multiple positions which is what teams are coveting. If the Kings move him, it’s most likely at his request and I’m sure Vlade would do him a solid. Basically the Kings would probably take a 2nd and an expiring for him.

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