M.Scotto: Toronto made Powell available in trade discussions

[Mr Burns]

People are so eager to trade powell for trash. Yikes

it's not that, think this way you are trading Powell for FVV and hopefully, a second-round pick or young asset (Tory Daniels or Paul Zipser).

Troy Daniels and Paul Zipser are rotation scrubs, I bet Masai can find better undrafted players than those two. Keep Powell until he walks or his value is high enough to fetch us Paul George, who Masai should have made a package for last offseason instead of waiting for his agent to commit to resigning with the Raptors, while Presti nabs him up for peanuts. (And this is coming from someone who really believes in Powell.)

Powell is pretty much a "rotation scrub" right now. In fact the dude wouldn't even be getting minutes if our team was 100% healthy right now.

[alienchild]

People are so eager to trade powell for trash. Yikes

Powell/CJ/JV future pick
For
Kemba/CodyZ

Works in the trade machine.

Fred can be traded high for a pick.

So your plan is to trade useful players who fill roles here for a star in Kemba who plays the same position as our highest paid player. Plus we have VanVleet and Wright playing really good. Seems like a short sighted move. Especially since your handing out a pick as well.

Short-sighted is such a kind way to say what you really mean.

[lebron stopper]

it's not that, think this way you are trading Powell for FVV and hopefully, a second-round pick or young asset (Tory Daniels or Paul Zipser).

Troy Daniels and Paul Zipser are rotation scrubs, I bet Masai can find better undrafted players than those two. Keep Powell until he walks or his value is high enough to fetch us Paul George, who Masai should have made a package for last offseason instead of waiting for his agent to commit to resigning with the Raptors, while Presti nabs him up for peanuts. (And this is coming from someone who really believes in Powell.)

Wouldn't call oladipo and sabonis peanuts lol

They're good now, but everyone, EVERYONE was vilifying Kevin Pritchard back in July for trading away Paul George for...another Orlando draft bust on a garbage contract who was supposed to be destined to be a career sixth man, and a rookie who didn't impress while witnessing NBA history being made. Everyone in July thought a rental of Paul George had way more value than Oladipo and Sabonis combined. Everyone thought Sam Presti fleeced the Pacers until Oladipo started putting up 23+ PPG and somehow hitting more game winners than Paul George could ever muster in his entire stint in Indianapolis.

Like for f***'s sake this was the sentiment at the time

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[Senbonzakura]

We cannot trade Powell until the summer; this whole discussion is moot.

[dukes_wild]

Good he's bad

[lebron stopper]

it's not that, think this way you are trading Powell for FVV and hopefully, a second-round pick or young asset (Tory Daniels or Paul Zipser).

Troy Daniels and Paul Zipser are rotation scrubs, I bet Masai can find better undrafted players than those two. Keep Powell until he walks or his value is high enough to fetch us Paul George, who Masai should have made a package for last offseason instead of waiting for his agent to commit to resigning with the Raptors, while Presti nabs him up for peanuts. (And this is coming from someone who really believes in Powell.)

Powell is pretty much a "rotation scrub" right now. In fact the dude wouldn't even be getting minutes if our team was 100% healthy right now.

Was he a rotation scrub when he dropped 25 on Giannis while turning Khris Middling into a total non-factor (which is how he got his contract extension in the first place)? Something which actual rotation scrubs Troy Daniels and Paul Crapzer have never done.

He's crap right now on offense, but he still has more potential than those two. Like I said, wait until he walks or his value is high enough to get traded for a star player. He's been better these last few games so hopefully he keeps it going.

[Boogie!]

lmao... trading powell is a mistake... guy was the only person who could guard beal the other night... not anunoby. beal went on a tear in the 3rd and as soon as powell came in, he actually slowed down a bit.

[thunderforce]

WTF are we a small market team ? I don't mind if we trade a couple players for a better player but to get rid of a good young player because we don't want to go over the cap means we are a small market team . That is not what they told us before , they said they can go over the cap if they thought they were close to being able to win .

[Mr Burns]

Troy Daniels and Paul Zipser are rotation scrubs, I bet Masai can find better undrafted players than those two. Keep Powell until he walks or his value is high enough to fetch us Paul George, who Masai should have made a package for last offseason instead of waiting for his agent to commit to resigning with the Raptors, while Presti nabs him up for peanuts. (And this is coming from someone who really believes in Powell.)

Powell is pretty much a "rotation scrub" right now. In fact the dude wouldn't even be getting minutes if our team was 100% healthy right now.

Was he a rotation scrub when he dropped 25 on Giannis while turning Khris Middling into a total non-factor (which is how he got his contract extension in the first place)? Something which actual rotation scrubs Troy Daniels and Paul Crapzer have never done.

He's crap right now on offense, but he still has more potential than those two. Like I said, wait until he walks or his value is high enough to get traded for a star player. He's been better these last few games so hopefully he keeps it going.

Yeah so we should hang onto a player because of a handful of games right? the truth is he has been absolute trash all year long and its not even debatable. The move for Daniels would be to get shooting off the bench (40% 3 point shooter) on a cheap deal and gives us the ability to retain FVV in the offseason.

I wonder when the day will come when we stop overrating the hell out of average role players especially when they can't even crack the rotation.

[nitrous]

I'll bring back my initial trade proposal then which people said couldn't happen due to Powell being untradeable:

[Northface82]

Any progression to these discussions?

[Boogie!]

I'll bring back my initial trade proposal then which people said couldn't happen due to Powell being untradeable:

what a horrible trade.

[thunderforce]

I'll bring back my initial trade proposal then which people said couldn't happen due to Powell being untradeable:

I doubt we are trading Fred

[sule]

People are so eager to trade powell for trash. Yikes

Powell/CJ/JV future pick
For
Kemba/CodyZ

Works in the trade machine.

Fred can be traded high for a pick.

Ok...now you gotta tell us...Bryan Colangelo or Dell Demps or Billy King? Surely you must be one of these people with a proposal like that?

[sule]

The value of VanVleet comes from his ability to basically score at will by being competent at both driving into the post for a layup and at 3-point shooting.

Theoretically, we should be just fine losing VanVleet if we can replace him with a guy who can similarly score at will in bunches within the flow of our bench offense. Harder to replace Norm, IMO. A guy who can make an impact through his defense (granted he's been playing poorly this season to-date, so we haven't been benefactors to that skill). I think Masai should seriously consider moving VanVleet if he thinks he can get another guy who can score similarly off the bench without disrupting our offence or passing, maybe through a S&T. Again, theoretically, Poeltl, Siakam, and Wright should be more adept scorers, which could potentially offset VanVleet's absence.

Best case scenario, though, is that we just re-sign VanVleet, go into the tax for two more years, and then move on with a stronger developed bench unit shifting up to the starting positions. In two years, we'd likely be under the tax again, so we wouldn't have to pay the repeater penalty, and we'd still have a fairly competent bench/SL.

[Topher]

I'll bring back my initial trade proposal then which people said couldn't happen due to Powell being untradeable:

Sorry but we get worst.

[bluerap23]

From RealGM trade checker.

Norman Powell from Toronto Raptors
Powell recently signed a contract and, as a result, he cannot be traded until Apr 8, 2018.

[thunderforce]

The value of VanVleet comes from his ability to basically score at will by being competent at both driving into the post for a layup and at 3-point shooting.

Theoretically, we should be just fine losing VanVleet if we can replace him with a guy who can similarly score at will in bunches within the flow of our bench offense. Harder to replace Norm, IMO. A guy who can make an impact through his defense (granted he's been playing poorly this season to-date, so we haven't been benefactors to that skill). I think Masai should seriously consider moving VanVleet if he thinks he can get another guy who can score similarly off the bench without disrupting our offence or passing, maybe through a S&T. Again, theoretically, Poeltl, Siakam, and Wright should be more adept scorers, which could potentially offset VanVleet's absence.

Best case scenario, though, is that we just re-sign VanVleet, go into the tax for two more years, and then move on with a stronger developed bench unit shifting up to the starting positions. In two years, we'd likely be under the tax again, so we wouldn't have to pay the repeater penalty, and we'd still have a fairly competent bench/SL.

I think FVV's value comes from his flawless running of the second unit and his scoring second . It is not easy to find that , you can't find that in Delon .

[HiMyNameIsTrey]

I still believe in Norm. When he can consistently put it together, watch out.

[WuTang_CMB]

scotto has no sources what a dummy

we cant trade him till offseason