Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 6

[bwgood77]

Re posting due to thread lock:

Do the Celtics trade (Mimai 1st for Smart/Boston 1st).

Do the Bucks trade (Chandler for Thon/Mirza/Bucks 1st #17-25 protections removed).

Smart/Ulis/Knight
Booker/Daniels/Reed
Jackson/Warren/Dudley
Warren/Bender/Chriss/Mirza
Len/Thon/BigSauce

Go into the offseason with our 1st (Top 5), Bucks 1st (NOW 11-25), Celtics 1st (#28).

No big moves. Just little ones that net us young cheap players for our future.

Any lineup that includes Len or Ulis means we have not addressed our most pressing issues. Don't waste space on Smart ... we need a 3-D guy and Smart isn't even a 2-D guy. I guess he makes 75% of his free throws so he is 1-D.

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[Waylay13]

The way I'm working out our salary cap going forward we only have room to acquire 1 Max Player.

Booker = $27m
Warrren = $12m
2018 Pick = $8m
Jackson = $7m
Bender = $5m
Chriss = $3m
Young Core 6 Players = $62m

Assume Bottom 8 Players = $16m

$78m + 1 Max Player = Salary Cap of $110m

Dont forget that Jackson and Chriss and Bender will all get raises at the end of their current contracts. This is a big reason I am not in favor of Aaron Gordon because while he is a nice player I dont think he is a max player that is what it is going to take to get him.

[DirtyDez]

What max player are we signing? The caliber of FA's we sign are mediocre vets on the downside of the careers. Too add young talent you have to draft or trade for them unless a guy like Tim Hardaway Jr doesn't get matched by his team. Gordon will be matched.

[Qwigglez]

Making a play for AG is right up McD's alley. Traded for Bledsoe when he was nearing the end of his rookie contract, though Bledsoe was playing behind CP3. Knight was a starter and almost an all-star in the East, but we traded a 1st round pick for him because McD felt it was the right play. I fully believe that we could make a deal with the Magic that doesn't include trading Jackson or our 2018 1st. At the very least, we would need it protected for a top 8 pick. I could see us trading our 2019 1st with little protection (top 3 protected), along with the 2018 Miami and Bucks pick. We'd probably include Bender or Chriss, but certainly not both. I could see the Magic being more interested in Bender since he can play SF/PF, and could be a lengthy F combo with Isaac, defensively they are both long.

The value for Gordon seems to be all over the place. Some people don't think he is worth much, some people think the Magic wouldn't take Chriss/Bender/Warren for AG. I think for a new GM, they want to build that roster from scratch so I could see them being interested in multiple firsts and one of Chriss/Bender. That is definitely a fair offer, one that I believe could get it done. I don't see many other teams being interested, and we haven't heard any reports (even fake reports) that the Gordon has been gathering a lot of interest.

Their new FO signed Simmons a SF over the summer, and drafted Isaacs a PF, I don't think they expected Gordon to be in their long-term plans. I fully expect him to be traded and think over the past summer they would have been ecstatic to gain a mid-first round pick for him.


As far as our future goes, if we did happen to trade for AG, I think we put ourselves in a good position moving forward. If we can convince Booker to wait til the summer of 2019 to give him the 5 year max, we can still manage to get a top free agent. I believe Kawhi Leonard did this, where he didn't sign an extension and waited for RFA but didn't even talk to other teams, he just waited for the Spurs to use their cap space and then signed his deal.

[kennydorglas]

Yeah, Gordons sister used to be pretty beastly when she played ball at Harvard, but looks pretty good since she dropped that weight down.

She went from this:

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To this:

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Damn, not bad at all.

[lilfishi22]

Aaron Gordons sister behind book. It's a sign. Best sign in fact.

Legal tampering

[Revived]

Yeah, Gordons sister used to be pretty beastly when she played ball at Harvard, but looks pretty good since she dropped that weight down.

She went from this:

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To this:

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God damn that’s one of the best transformations I’ve seen! Trade for Gordon definitely!!

[hollywood6964]

Yeah, Gordons sister used to be pretty beastly when she played ball at Harvard, but looks pretty good since she dropped that weight down.

She went from this:

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To this:

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Damn, not bad at all.

Yeah, I'd throw her bones.

[bwgood77]

I'm not sure McD will go for Gordon, particularly not before the summer because we don't know who we get in the draft, and he just drafted two PFs, neither of which I think McD would trade yet...I think it would be dumb to trade either, but particularly Bender..his skill set could turn into Draymond lite...with the D, passing and 3 pt shooting, and he could play 4/5.

I do agree he is the type of guy McD would typically go after as he seems to like trading for soon to be RFAs like Bledsoe and Knight, but just don't see the need and not sure it is a long term upgrade at the 4 as I see our 4s we drafted getting better.

I'm also not entirely sure he is on the block...have we seen a reputable source on this? I continue to think it may have been floated to give teams hesitation on offering him a big deal and they don't want to give him a full max, but will match..and few teams can give a big offer.

If we can't find a major difference maker this offseason, which I'm not sure we will, I wouldn't mind looking into signing Will Barton, particularly if we trade Daniels, and also depending on how Reed plays down the stretch....and if we can't get Doncic or Young in the draft.

He is a solid SG, who is versatile and averages 4 assists a game and could play next to Booker in the backcourt since he can shoot and pass. But it would depend on the cost...he only makes $3.5 million this year and is better than Daniels overall.

So much depends on the draft, and if we make a trade, and we have bigger needs for a more true PG and C, but I am not sure who will be out there that is worth going after. Lillard was mad Portland let him go and he has been a big part of that Denver team the last couple of years and often plays as well or better than Harris, and especially Murray.

I guess the only thing is we have a bunch of 2s, 3s and a couple of young 4s, so the priority should be PGs and Cs, but I think a C can come cheap and the available PGs might be as well.

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[Bogyo]

I do not believe the statements above, as he has not shown any of the traits. Self-aware? Smart? Intelligent? You got to be effing kidding me. From all we've seen he is the exact opposite.

I just hope that he was told that this is the last straw. 2nd strike. Whatever.
Let him know that this is unacceptable from a young punk who was only gifted minutes becouse the previous yoga teacher was in love with him. We could still ship his ass out with one/two of our draft picks and get somebody useful. smh

[NavLDO]

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I'm a little surprised at the poll results, unless it's just an AZ thing or an injury thing....because Parker last year was better than Gordon this year across the board...slightly fewer rebounds but better everywhere else and the much higher rated prospect. I guess Gordon is a tad better defensively.

http://bkref.com/tiny/sjppJ

Not that I'm sure I want either...certainly not enough to trade assets for if we can just give them a RFA offer.

Gordon is more than just a tad better defensively than Parker. Jabari is one of the worst defenders in the league at his position and Gordon at the worst can hold his own.

I'd only take Parker if it was for cheap.

in DRPM last year, considering they both played, Gordon ranked 67th in PFs for DRPM while Parker ranked 73rd. So however you want to classify that I guess. One of our own PFs was last though. http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/year/2017/page/2/sort/DRPM/position/6 You are right about Parker being one of the worst, but so was Gordon.

This year Gordon is the 84th best PF in DRPM. http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/3/sort/DRPM/position/6

So whatever you want to call it, it's not good, and being that bad defensively is not the type of guy a bad defensive team should want to pay max or near max money to.

Not that I want Parker, either..never been a big fan but liked him better last year when his 3pt shot got a lot better.

So, then using your logic, we shouldn't want to pay Booker the Max, or near Max, either, right? Just playing devil's advocate, here, but in this new 'positionless' basketball, one position is no more important than the next in their roles defensively/offensively, especially the 2-4 spots, where roles are really more ill-defined. And when he's pitted up against PG, he should fair even better with his length.

We can pick apart any player, really, as to why they aren't deserving of a Max for us, but the bottom line is; is he better than what we have now, or could conceivably get? Should we pay the Max, or near Max, to bring on Luc Mbah a Moute this Summer? His DRPM is 3rd in the NBA? I'm being snarky here, but we all recognize that while he might be a nice bench PF to go get, he's not our future at PF. Gordon is 22; his play has improved every season; and he's a decent overall, 3PT shooter....oh, and he's likely available and better than anything we have right now at that position. I guess it comes down to, are we waiting/hoping Bender or Chriss ends up being our PF of the future?? Or are we giving up on them and ready to move forward. Depending upon which camp you are in, probably affects your opinion on the matter.

[NavLDO]

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I'm a little surprised at the poll results, unless it's just an AZ thing or an injury thing....because Parker last year was better than Gordon this year across the board...slightly fewer rebounds but better everywhere else and the much higher rated prospect. I guess Gordon is a tad better defensively.

http://bkref.com/tiny/sjppJ

Not that I'm sure I want either...certainly not enough to trade assets for if we can just give them a RFA offer.

Gordon is more than just a tad better defensively than Parker. Jabari is one of the worst defenders in the league at his position and Gordon at the worst can hold his own.

I'd only take Parker if it was for cheap.

in DRPM last year, considering they both played, Gordon ranked 67th in PFs for DRPM while Parker ranked 73rd. So however you want to classify that I guess. One of our own PFs was last though. http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/year/2017/page/2/sort/DRPM/position/6 You are right about Parker being one of the worst, but so was Gordon.

This year Gordon is the 84th best PF in DRPM. http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/3/sort/DRPM/position/6

So whatever you want to call it, it's not good, and being that bad defensively is not the type of guy a bad defensive team should want to pay max or near max money to.

Not that I want Parker, either..never been a big fan but liked him better last year when his 3pt shot got a lot better.

BTW...Also, I noticed when looking through the different years on RPM stats, that right next to AG on DRPM, this year, is an already PAID Max PF, one that some folks were clamoring about bringing here in Blake Griffin. I find it interesting because this is yet another indicator of his downward spiral in play. He'd typically be 'above board' in DRPM until this year.

Now, I bring this up because you had mentioned a couple of days ago that his numbers have gone down because now he has integrated a 3PT shot. Well, if that's the case here, then that explains a lot on Gordaon as well, since doubled his 3PT att/gm last year, then nearly doubled them again this year. If you look back 2 years, you see he had a positive DRPM.

So, if a player's DRPM goes down, as they move 'outside' to shoot 3s, well, then this stat is flawed. I wonder if anyone has thought to research this. Bender is near dead last, but all he does is sit outside and shoot 3s. You wouldn't think it would matter any, since one is on one side of the floor, while the other takes place on the other side of the floor, but if one is draining 'corner 3s', one isn't exactly in an ideal position to get back on defense.

Just an interesting correlation, I wonder...regardless, Blake has tanked this year in DRPM, regardless, and is another indicator of his declining performance.

[Qwigglez]

I'm not sure McD will go for Gordon, particularly not before the summer because we don't know who we get in the draft, and he just drafted two PFs, neither of which I think McD would trade yet...I think it would be dumb to trade either, but particularly Bender..his skill set could turn into Draymond lite...with the D, passing and 3 pt shooting, and he could play 4/5.

I do agree he is the type of guy McD would typically go after as he seems to like trading for soon to be RFAs like Bledsoe and Knight, but just don't see the need and not sure it is a long term upgrade at the 4 as I see our 4s we drafted getting better.

I think McD would trade Bender or Chriss. He traded Kendall Marshall in his 2nd year, though he wasn't a McD draft pick. He traded Tyler Ennis in his rookie year, even though there were rumors McD was trying to be cute and leverage Ennis to the Raptors for Bruno and whatever else it was. He also traded Miles Plumlee who was still on his rookie contract. Point is, McD likes to shuffle his cards, and I could see him trading them in, though likely only for another player on their rookie contract or in part of a package deal for a star.

As far as Bender goes, I could see him being a very solid player like his idol Toni Kukoc. I think for him to get there though he has to have no pressure, he has to be surrounded by 4 above average and/or elite players. He needs players who can create out there on the floor with him. I don't like him and Ulis playing together. Next year I am looking forward to seeing him out there with this lineup: Booker, Knight, Jackson, Warren, Bender. Two slashers and two shooters. Warren and Jackson are also both capable of hitting the corner three. Anyhow, this is the kind of lineup I think Bender can be successful in. He has driven to the basket I'd say slightly more than usual lately, so it's a good sign that he is maybe improving.

[NavLDO]

What does Jackson have to do with any of this. We wouldn't trade JJ for AG, if we did the Magic would have to add value here. Or are you saying that it would likely take a top 5 pick to get the Magic to trade AG? Because even that isn't equal value.
If they are considering trading him it's because they don't want to give him a max, like you mentioned. Still, some team may offer him that and then the Magic would let him go for nothing, or they match a 4 year max, and during those 4 years are trying to develop Isaacs, their 2018 1st, and any other youngsters. It could be a waste of cap space especially if they don't believe in him to be that franchise cornerstone.
I could see the Magic trading him for one of Chriss/Bender, or Warren plus the Bucks and Heat pick, and the Suns top 5 protected 2019 pick. That's a good rebuilding package, though they likely want to trade a bad contract too, but I doubt they'd have any bidders then, or the package would be significantly less because then it would be roughly 30% of cap space to take on AG. And again I don't see any team making that kind of maneuver.

Also I think the package I mentioned would be far greater than what other teams would offer, and honestly don't think it will even take that much to get him.

OK, OK...I'll bite. We'll trade Warren + MIL 1st + PHX '18 2nd for AG...and...a 2-for-1 deal. The PHX 2016 1st Rd selections--the #4 and #8 overall picks for Isaac. I know, I know. Pretty insane that we would trade 2 x Top 10 picks for one player, but I'm willing to do it. They should jump at that 2nd offer...

They are definitely not trading Isaac. They sure as hell are not trading both. For Warren, Chriss and Bender. I don't know that they would trade Gordon for Warren, Chriss and Bender. I am not sure how much trade value Warren has. Not that I don't think he is on a great contract, but guys who can't shoot 3s or play D very well or get others involved regularly are not particularly in high demand. I don't think they have much our PFs have much trade value either. I think all those players have more value to us than what they would net in trade.

But like I said, I think they will keep Gordon. I'm surprised you are so down on our players you would trade them for a RFA anyway.

Sorry, I should have put that 2nd part of my post in Green Font...figured the 'jokingly reference' to the 2-for-1 deal, and that I used their selection slots, AND the 3 'banging heads' emoticons/emojis...(whatever you call them) would have been enough for folks to recognoze I wasn't being serious there.

As far trading Warren, a likely 2020 Mil 1st in the 20s, and a 2nd, for Gordon, well, that was assuming a S&T this summer, not now, something akin to what Qwigglez was mentioning, so I thought that is what we were talking about. I'm not overly familiar with how those go, but if we informed the Magic that we are going to sign him to a 4-yr Max offer sheet, they could then match it and trade him to us for that pkg. As you alluded, our players have more value to us than others, but they could use help at SF, and sure, Warren has his warts, but he also scores 20 PPG and adds 5 Rebounds and an assist and a half...which, as you know, is on the upswing, with him, overall, the past month or two (Jan-1.7 / Dec-1.5).

So anyway, he's still more of an 'asset' than 'hindrance'...basically, he has positive value rather than negative. So Warren, and the two picks, and forcing Orlando's hand by signing AG to a Max, I think, may entice them to let him go and they get some pieces in return.

[darealjuice]

I do not believe the statements above, as he has not shown any of the traits. Self-aware? Smart? Intelligent? You got to be effing kidding me. From all we've seen he is the exact opposite.

I just hope that he was told that this is the last straw. 2nd strike. Whatever.
Let him know that this is unacceptable from a young punk who was only gifted minutes becouse the previous yoga teacher was in love with him. We could still ship his ass out with one/two of our draft picks and get somebody useful. smh

I mean he was studying electrical engineering at UW if I remember correctly, so probably not fair of you to call him the opposite of intelligent. He may not be basketball smart, but he seems far from a punk off the court. This **** happens, you guys are acting like he Markieffed someone in public

[BobbieL]

Making a play for AG is right up McD's alley. Traded for Bledsoe when he was nearing the end of his rookie contract, though Bledsoe was playing behind CP3. Knight was a starter and almost an all-star in the East, but we traded a 1st round pick for him because McD felt it was the right play. I fully believe that we could make a deal with the Magic that doesn't include trading Jackson or our 2018 1st. At the very least, we would need it protected for a top 8 pick. I could see us trading our 2019 1st with little protection (top 3 protected), along with the 2018 Miami and Bucks pick. We'd probably include Bender or Chriss, but certainly not both. I could see the Magic being more interested in Bender since he can play SF/PF, and could be a lengthy F combo with Isaac, defensively they are both long.

The value for Gordon seems to be all over the place. Some people don't think he is worth much, some people think the Magic wouldn't take Chriss/Bender/Warren for AG. I think for a new GM, they want to build that roster from scratch so I could see them being interested in multiple firsts and one of Chriss/Bender. That is definitely a fair offer, one that I believe could get it done. I don't see many other teams being interested, and we haven't heard any reports (even fake reports) that the Gordon has been gathering a lot of interest.

Their new FO signed Simmons a SF over the summer, and drafted Isaacs a PF, I don't think they expected Gordon to be in their long-term plans. I fully expect him to be traded and think over the past summer they would have been ecstatic to gain a mid-first round pick for him.


As far as our future goes, if we did happen to trade for AG, I think we put ourselves in a good position moving forward. If we can convince Booker to wait til the summer of 2019 to give him the 5 year max, we can still manage to get a top free agent. I believe Kawhi Leonard did this, where he didn't sign an extension and waited for RFA but didn't even talk to other teams, he just waited for the Spurs to use their cap space and then signed his deal.

I think one thing is there a contract the Suns can take that would help the long term efforts of the Magic. The one I bring up is Founier but does he cross over too much with JJ and Tony Warren. Or can Fournier switch to the 2 guard to replace Knight. Knight for Fournier saves that team a lot of money. Not willing to take Biyombo unless they take Chandler as that saves them a year but hinders the Suns chances of getting a max guy in 19/20 I think.

[Frank Lee]

I don’t see McD Acquiring a power forward until he is absolutely convinced Bender and Chris are role players at the best. He has been preaching patience for the past two years… One more is needed At least till the deadline next year. Now I can see him addressing our other weaknesses…

[NavLDO]

What does Jackson have to do with any of this. We wouldn't trade JJ for AG, if we did the Magic would have to add value here. Or are you saying that it would likely take a top 5 pick to get the Magic to trade AG? Because even that isn't equal value.
If they are considering trading him it's because they don't want to give him a max, like you mentioned. Still, some team may offer him that and then the Magic would let him go for nothing, or they match a 4 year max, and during those 4 years are trying to develop Isaacs, their 2018 1st, and any other youngsters. It could be a waste of cap space especially if they don't believe in him to be that franchise cornerstone.
I could see the Magic trading him for one of Chriss/Bender, or Warren plus the Bucks and Heat pick, and the Suns top 5 protected 2019 pick. That's a good rebuilding package, though they likely want to trade a bad contract too, but I doubt they'd have any bidders then, or the package would be significantly less because then it would be roughly 30% of cap space to take on AG. And again I don't see any team making that kind of maneuver.

Also I think the package I mentioned would be far greater than what other teams would offer, and honestly don't think it will even take that much to get him.

OK, OK...I'll bite. We'll trade Warren + MIL 1st + PHX '18 2nd for AG...and...a 2-for-1 deal. The PHX 2016 1st Rd selections--the #4 and #8 overall picks for Isaac. I know, I know. Pretty insane that we would trade 2 x Top 10 picks for one player, but I'm willing to do it. They should jump at that 2nd offer...

They are definitely not trading Isaac. They sure as hell are not trading both. For Warren, Chriss and Bender. I don't know that they would trade Gordon for Warren, Chriss and Bender. I am not sure how much trade value Warren has. Not that I don't think he is on a great contract, but guys who can't shoot 3s or play D very well or get others involved regularly are not particularly in high demand. I don't think they have much our PFs have much trade value either. I think all those players have more value to us than what they would net in trade.

But like I said, I think they will keep Gordon. I'm surprised you are so down on our players you would trade them for a RFA anyway.

Her's Part II to my response...

As far as being down on our players? I'm not, really. I'm just down on our 'team building'. If we are not going to take an active approach to developing our players, and not get a PG (our latest signing of Gray proves this), then we better get a player that is 80% developed, as opposed to just thinking the 'Magic Development Fairy' is going to come along and develop Chriss and Bender properly. So, I'd rather roll out next year with our SG, SF, and PF positions set with JJ being the SF. He seems to be developing faster than our other two PFs, which shouldn't be a surprise, since he's not a big, and getting more minutes per game than the other two ever have.

I'm all about getting as many 'ready' players as possible, and 'forcing' the hand to keep JJ on the floor, and to do that, Warren likely needs to go, as much as I REALLY like Warren. But who knows, man...hence, my banging heads emoticons...let's just keep collecting top 10 picks, and doing nothing with them. Great idea! And by golly, in no way.shape, or form are we going to consider getting a top-tier PG in here...we're going to fill our holes with NAZ guys.

... scoring 41 points with three rebounds, nine assists and five 3-pointers in 42 minutes.
He was ridiculous in the second half, playing the entire 24 minutes with 28 points to help the Hornets get the win. Walker is probably the biggest snub of any NBA player for the All-Star Game and he's been on some tear right now. Since the ESPN trade rumor story back on Jan. 19, Walker has averaged 28.6 points, 4.0 boards, 6.4 assists, 1.1 steals and 4.4 treys. Teams will have to give up the farm to get him.

So much for that idea...but I forgot...he's, what was the wording used??...'borderline' All-Star??

But, but, but, the Miami Heat are a winning team!! Sure...with a negative point differential of -.8 PPG, and 100.3 PPG

But, but, but, the Charlotte Hornets are a losing team!! Sure...with a positive point differential of .3 PPG and 106.3 PPG

I forget, which part of the team's play does the PG have the most impact on...was it defense, or offense??

Man, Kemba, and his 22.8 Pts/5.9 Asst per gm can only do so much. Give him Whiteside, like Dragic and his 17.2/4.7 Asst per gm, and his team would be winning too.

But this is a-whole-nother discussion...but point is, we are going to bring in a Rookie PG next year; that seems to be the consensus opinion. That PG is going to be fighting to learn his own role within the NBA. He cannot help other young'ns develop.

So, if that is the case, IMO, we better surround this Rookie PF with no kidding talent, so HE is successful. Gordon might not be a bad place to start.

Rookie PG / Booker / JJ / Gordon / Chandler

We will probably also bring in a rookie Center, but as we've seen, so long as we have Chandler, he starts. But in this instance, it might actually be good for at least half a season, to settle the new PG.

Let's say it's Sexton (I think Sexton would be good for us with Booker's Combo Guard abilities, as well).

Sexton / Booker / JJ / Gordon / Metu

I'd go with Metu with our MIA '18 1st. He's a little more seasoned, but still has upside, and is a PF/C hybrid.

I'm just saying, I hope McD is looking at these things, instead of "Ooohhh, SHINY...He's only 18-YO, I want him!!" Let's go in with some semblance of understanding of what might actually be best for the guys we already have, and the ones we are bringing in. It's not always in our best interest to bring in the 'rawest', 'youngest', 'biggest upside' prospect, becaause as we are seeing, those types typically come with equally as low 'downsides'.

[NavLDO]

I am for following the Spurs model. Do not make pointless moves.

Couldn't agree more. It's nice to have continuity and a young players we can get vested in and our team can develop them. I think with the right coach and development, Jackson, Chriss and Bender can all turn into nice players. It's nice to see young players getting so much time. I think with gradual development and continued chemistry and the right draft additions, we can grow into a nice team that can compete. Add a FA at the right time. Maybe make a trade. Don't get all excited every time someone is mentioned they are on the block. They may be on the block for a good reason.

Jackson's been a different player since he was benched. Dragan's been much improved since he was called out in the media for being too passive - outplayed Gobert IMO when they were matched up at C last night. This is what we need to keep doing.

JC, bw and myself are outspoken members of Team Stay the Course. But I think all three of us are ready for the FO to make moves this summer. During the summer. This summer. Not now.

When teams are trying to trade their RFAs, it means they know they won't match market in 5 months. We're the market.

And that's fine. I don't care about getting Gordon now; only if we are in this same position by RFA, via a S&T option.

As far as Griffin...I had zero interest.
Kemba? I did, because I feel we need a solid veteran PG, but that's not going to happen; I see now, so dropped it.

I think there is confusion in that some of us support trading for some available players. I don't think there are many, if any, that get excited every time someone is mentioned being on the block, and feel we need to trade for them right now.

I supported and still do, support getting all-star-talent at the PG position, because THAT is going to help our young guys grow and develop. Bringing in a Rookie PG with a bunch of not-yet developed young talent, has the potential to both stunt their development, and the young PG's. And no, I do not believe BK is the answer, so I will continue to support bringing in a PG that is under 30-YO, that is of high-talent, bit those are becoming far and fewer in-between now...Kyrie?? Kemba?? There's only a couple of others worth mentioning, and they are not leaving their team anytime soon.

But please don't assume that just because every time a player becomes made available for Trade, etc., that there is this 'mystical' group of fans here that want to trade for that talent right now, every time, because that just is not the case, I don't believe, and if it is?? If there is a small group that does this every time, well, so be it. Just don't assume that because someone supports one trade, that they get excited about every FA to trade for now.