Trae Young

[SeattleJazzFan]

Trae does not blow Steph out of the water in terms of passing (or Chris Jackson tbh). Bobby Knight once said that Steph is the best passer he had ever seen coming out of college. If Steph were playing for D'Antoni (or when he played for Nellie) you'd see much more of that.

i saw Steph and Davidson. didn't have Trae's vision or passing ability - not even close. Bobby Knight is prone to hyperbole.

If Steph was a full time on ball PG like Harden or Russ he'd easily average 10apg.

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i thought i was quite clear we were talking about the two players in college.

[SeattleJazzFan]

Trae does not blow Steph out of the water in terms of passing (or Chris Jackson tbh). Bobby Knight once said that Steph is the best passer he had ever seen coming out of college. If Steph were playing for D'Antoni (or when he played for Nellie) you'd see much more of that.

i saw Steph and Davidson. didn't have Trae's vision or passing ability - not even close. Bobby Knight is prone to hyperbole.

I saw Steph play for Don Nelson. You're just wrong.

for Don Nelson? did Don Nelson coach at Davidson? i'm old - short memory.

[EvanZ]

i saw Steph and Davidson. didn't have Trae's vision or passing ability - not even close. Bobby Knight is prone to hyperbole.

I saw Steph play for Don Nelson. You're just wrong.

for Don Nelson? did Don Nelson coach at Davidson? i'm old - short memory.

You realize Steph played for Don Nelson in his rookie season right?

[Mulhollanddrive]

Terrible 3 point shooting game (2-14) but seemed to do everything else well.

5 of 8 2PA
14 assists (2.8 A/TO ratio)
2 steals
3-3 FT

I actually like seeing this type of game as you know his outside shooting will come back.

[No-Man]

He was forcing it down the end, but he was dicing them up with the passing all game long, just and up and down one and you can see that he is getting tired by the end of these contests, which I guess is normal

I noticed that whenever the pull-up isnt going, he is just off for the whole game at that, which makes easier to defend, obviously OU can't manufacture looks for him off-ball that often but hopefully we would see that at the next level because I can't remember him missing when he can actually catch&shoot.

[LakerLegend]

He looks amazing, but every time I take a close look at his shooting form I think he'll get stuffed 20 times a game.

[ahartleyvu]

I love this kid. But I’d be a **** NBA scout. I didn’t think Curry would amount to anything. Thought he’d be an okay bench player. Lol.

Trae reminds me of Curry. Great shooting. Long range. Good finisher. I like him.

[AJ3]

I know this might sound strange but, how would you evaluate Trae if Curry wasn't in the league today? Would you still rank him this high, or would you look at him more objectively?

[shakes0]

I know this might sound strange but, how would you evaluate Trae if Curry wasn't in the league today? Would you still rank him this high, or would you look at him more objectively?

better question: Would Trae even exist in this form if Curry wasn't in the league?

[AJ3]

I know this might sound strange but, how would you evaluate Trae if Curry wasn't in the league today? Would you still rank him this high, or would you look at him more objectively?

better question: Would Trae even exist in this form if Curry wasn't in the league?

I doubt he would be taking the deep 3P as much if Curry didn't do it first, it wasn't really something anyone thought about before, at least not to this extent and success.

[shakes0]

I know this might sound strange but, how would you evaluate Trae if Curry wasn't in the league today? Would you still rank him this high, or would you look at him more objectively?

better question: Would Trae even exist in this form if Curry wasn't in the league?

I doubt he would be taking the deep 3P as much if Curry didn't do it first, it wasn't really something anyone thought about before, at least not to this extent and success.

It's funny. I watch more college ball than anyone and lately I've noticed other guards starting to take the occasional 30 footer. Just like trae was influenced by Curry, I think all these other players are being influenced by Trae.

[clyde21]

Magic now have the highest odds of landing the #1 overall pick, and seem to be the most likely team of grabbing Young in the top 5 based on need.

Are they crazy enough to pull the trigger on him with the first pick?

[916fan]

Magic now have the highest odds of landing the #1 overall pick, and seem to be the most likely team of grabbing Young in the top 5 based on need.

Are they crazy enough to pull the trigger on him with the first pick?

If they truly believe he can be Curry-esque, why not? However, I don't have Young in my top 3. Orlando is in an awkward state. They've started to entertain offers for Gordon who was from the previous regime. I don't think they're serious about trading him, but they're probably hesitant to give him the max. Their "key" players excluding Payton are Fournier, Gordon, Isaac, and Vucevic. The main prospects are Gordon and Isaac who are primarily PFs, maybe SFs. Isaac might be a C down the road. This is where the draft gets complicated for them.

If you have Gordon-Isaac moving forward, where does Ayton fit? He doesn't...I don't think you want Gordon playing SF. Where does Bagley fit? He doesn't fit either because they'd have no interior presence. What about MPJ? Not really... I don't think you want Isaac playing at C right now. JJJ could be interesting, but does he have the size and strength to play C right now? That's an extremely thin front-court of Gordon-JJJ or Isaac-JJJ. Doncic is the only one that does fit. He can play SG in their lineups, but act as a PG on offense.

Does Orlando go BPA? At this point, it doesn't seem like they're sold on Gordon being their franchise player if they're willing to look at offers. Do you negate roster fit with Gordon/Isaac to take another big like Ayton or Bagley?

If Orlando thinks Young could become a top 10 PG, I think they should take him at #1. PG is the most important position in the NBA. Here's an interesting question. Would you rather have a top 10 PG or a top 5 C?

[clyde21]

Magic now have the highest odds of landing the #1 overall pick, and seem to be the most likely team of grabbing Young in the top 5 based on need.

Are they crazy enough to pull the trigger on him with the first pick?

If they truly believe he can be Curry-esque, why not? However, I don't have Young in my top 3. Orlando is in an awkward state. They've started to entertain offers for Gordon who was from the previous regime. I don't think they're serious about trading him, but they're probably hesitant to give him the max. Their "key" players excluding Payton are Fournier, Gordon, Isaac, and Vucevic. The main prospects are Gordon and Isaac who are primarily PFs, maybe SFs. Isaac might be a C down the road. This is where the draft gets complicated for them.

If you have Gordon-Isaac moving forward, where does Ayton fit? He doesn't...I don't think you want Gordon playing SF. Where does Bagley fit? He doesn't fit either because they'd have no interior presence. What about MPJ? Not really... I don't think you want Isaac playing at C right now. JJJ could be interesting, but does he have the size and strength to play C right now? That's an extremely thin front-court of Gordon-JJJ or Isaac-JJJ. Doncic is the only one that does fit. He can play SG in their lineups, but act as a PG on offense.

Does Orlando go BPA? At this point, it doesn't seem like they're sold on Gordon being their franchise player if they're willing to look at offers. Do you negate roster fit with Gordon/Isaac to take another big like Ayton or Bagley?

If Orlando thinks Young could become a top 10 PG, I think they should take him at #1. PG is the most important position in the NBA. Here's an interesting question. Would you rather have a top 10 PG or a top 5 C?

Yup, which is why I think they could pull the trigger on Young that high. There are a lot of bigs in this draft at the top and they don't really seem to fit the Magic at this point, unless they're willing to take Ayton and the figuring out the fit later.

Young and Doncic, strictly from a needs standpoint, make the most sense for them.

[wco81]

So they're going to let Payton go?

Why not let Gordon go rather than potentially give him a deal that starts around $20 million or higher?

They're not even going to be close to the playoffs this year so why give anyone on this roster a deal worth more than $100 million?

Draft one of the forwards if he's the BPA and reset the roster, because there's not a lot to build on. This team would be lucky to win 39 games, more likely 20-25.

[916fan]

So they're going to let Payton go?

Why not let Gordon go rather than potentially give him a deal that starts around $20 million or higher?

They're not even going to be close to the playoffs this year so why give anyone on this roster a deal worth more than $100 million?

Draft one of the forwards if he's the BPA and reset the roster, because there's not a lot to build on. This team would be lucky to win 39 games, more likely 20-25.

I've never been an Elfrid Payton believer, but he has improved this year. However, his shooting will always hold him back until it doesn't. I don't think you excel in the league with a PG who can't shoot. That's just how much the game has changed. Paying Gordon 20mpy doesn't hurt them. They're tied in at $84million next season. Vuc and T-Ross will be expiring contracts next season. They won't be a target for any prime FAs. I could easily see them not touching the luxury cap.

Orlando traded Victor Oladipo and Tobias Harris for scraps. Look at where they're at right now... low-key one of the most dysfunctional franchises since they traded Dwight away..They can't afford to keep throwing away talent.

[BigRedWarrior]

I know this might sound strange but, how would you evaluate Trae if Curry wasn't in the league today? Would you still rank him this high, or would you look at him more objectively?

This is actually a great question.
Curry's impact / success as a transcendent shooter does indeed bias our evaluation of Trae since we know the upside of having a shooter of that caliber.
Having a bias like that isnt wrong imo.

Seems fair to use Curry as a benchmark for people extremely bullish on Trae; understanding the ceiling of an investment (a draft pick) is extremely important.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Who's a player from more than 10 years ago as a comparison?

[anthony00]

Who's a player from more than 10 years ago as a comparison?

chris jackson

[Derento]

Who's a player from more than 10 years ago as a comparison?

Mark Price